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Do you agree with Sony's marketing slogan "The Best Place to Play" Going into this next generation?

platocplx

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SuperBanana said:
I think MS will be super aggressive with getting as many big titles on there at the beginning but will slowly drop off and the price increases as it gains popularity.
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honestly I feel like MS wants to get back to its roots and be more of a software company and have their tenticles on every platform, but also offer an optional system for people if they want, kind of like the surface while there are mad PCs out there. Im not mad at it at all. There is way way way more money in services and Software.
 
HelloItsPulse

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Playstation hasn't been "The best place to play" to me since the PS2. Xbox has the better services and interface, and both Nintendo and Xbox have better exclusives for my tastes. I don't care about exclusive dlc deals since I rarely play the games they are for. I pretty much only used PS4 for exclusive games, and so far that isn't going to change for PS5.
 
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cmdrshepard said:
Absolutely I agree. Sony and indeed any business don't need to be pro-consumer. However Sony positioned themselves as friends of all gamers at the E3 2013/14 press conferences with this slogan and their speeches combating MS's missteps and PR speaking sold this generation as the one that is pro-consumer. IMO I think Sony has failed to meet that expectation.
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"friends of all gamers", oh man, I've got a bridge to sell you.

You guys would be doing yourselves a favour if you'd stop believing stuff like that. They are in this to make money and to sell you stuff. Sometimes the stuff they sell you is really good though.
 

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The best place to play is and always will be PC. Best graphics, resolution, framerate, mods , etc.

I dont even game on PC anymore and I still know its the best gaming platform.
 
Cth

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..whether you like it or not? :)

For me, it's never been about one singular place, there's plenty of fun experiences across all consoles and the PC.
 
ExoExplorer

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There has never been one best place to play. Like always I'll split my attention between the major publishers.

PS5 - PlayStation Exclusives
PC - Gamepass and Steam
Switch - Nintendo Exclusives
Throw in indies where they fit best.
 
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Not necessarily. There could have been some sort of deal following the success of Spider-Man PS4, and MUA3's arrangement may have pre-dated that. Or it could have been that Sony simply didn't view the characters inclusion in that game as detrimental to their position vs their nearest competitor. The truth is we don't know the ins and outs of any of these recent arrangements.
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I honestly feel like Sony and Nintendo just have a mutual understanding at this point They account for like 80% of all console sales ever. I don't even think they see eachother as competition anymore.
 
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platocplx said:
Sony may have a lot of say in these dealings. also things may have changed after the MCU deal they had with Disney. all stuff we really don't know. but all im point to is if you look at the history of Spiderman its been Japanese devs, and Sony. thats about it.
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MUA 3 came out in 2019, well after the Sony deal. So it doesn't seem likely the licensing changed due to that. This is Sony paying money to keep software features from other platforms. That feels wrong.
 

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I'd mostly agree. They put out a well rounded device + ecosystem + excellent exclusives and even though Microsoft has initiatives and games (at least in a couple years) that interest me if I had to choose a console it'd probably be a PlayStation. Will be going PC + PS5 (+ Switch) this generation. Can't say I'm a fan of Sony's exclusivity initiatives though. And as long as Sony doesn't force devs to offer a 60 FPS option it will never be my primary device. Mostly an exclusives machine.
 
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platocplx said:
how does it really hurt gamers if most people are already on the platform(not including PC) I do understand the performance concerns
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Well as I mentioned - if games are not in unity it is likely that cross play is on the back burner which reduces the population for everyone. Also, arguably while loading times might be better for third party games on PS5, it is still going to be best to play on PC and likely (although still uncertain) that Series X will offer better overall performance for third party titles.
 
RestEerie

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it's just a marketing slogan...what's the big deal?

Did anyone 'just did it' because of Nike?
 

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platocplx said:
I honestly feel like Sony and Nintendo just have a mutual understanding at this point They account for like 80% of all console sales ever. I don't even think they see eachother as competition anymore.
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I really think Sony respects Nintendo way more than MS. I remember when Switch came out and started breaking records one of the suits said, "Never count Nintendo out".
 
Loud Wrong

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It will be for me. I'm even buying their PS5 TV. What they did on PS4 sold me on PS5, and all MS has done so far is push me further in that direction. I love my Switch too, but it's not a main console.
 
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Hippo_PRIME said:
MUA 3 came out in 2019, well after the Sony deal. So it doesn't seem likely the licensing changed due to that. This is Sony paying money to keep software features from other platforms. That feels wrong.
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the deal could've been a prior agreement that was grandfathered in which happens all the time. Dev would put it at about 2017 at minimum. I mean look at what marvel games have come out as of late? Spiderman and ironman Sony, Avengers all platforms but Sony gets Spiderman.
 
Ploid 6.0

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Gyro and full controller layout customization via multiple controller apps on any controller, even dual Joycons with (reWASD), for me PC is the best place to play. Start allowing all games to use gyro as a option if it makes sense (aiming games especially).
 
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cmdrshepard said:
Well as I mentioned - if games are not in unity it is likely that cross play is on the back burner which reduces the population for everyone. Also, arguably while loading times might be better for third party games on PS5, it is still going to be best to play on PC and likely (although still uncertain) that Series X will offer better overall performance for third party titles.
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I think that they may unify xbox and PC and Sony PS4 and PS5 should be more than enough for the community, and I don't even think performance between consoles this gen esp 3rd party we more than likely will have parity.
 
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It's miles better than the first draft, "A Perfectly Acceptable Place to Play, If You're Into That Sort of Thing."
 
Governergrimm

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Possibly and I expect a bunch of egregious moneyhats that will be staunchly defended. God I hope I'm wrong. I really want to be wrong.
 
Black_Red

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No, PC is the best place to play.

But many companies lie in their slogan, so its not a big deal.
 
Cipherr

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Sounds like a slogan.

Like reading a thread saying "Which console is gonna let me PLAY WITH POWER this gen?"

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TheRealTalker

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Actually their next gen slogan is now:
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But I wonder beyond PS5 if they will use this slogan for PS4 too in the future or not. I remember NA and EU has different slogans like "Greatness Awaits" vs "The Best Place to Play" but now Sony in general is more global and one so this slogan seems to be for both regions.
 
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I have no issue with a company getting exclusivity of games when they fund them in some capacity like Microsoft with Sunset Overdrive or Quantum Break. What I have a problem with is when companies moneyhat features away from people so that when two people pay the same amount for a game one person gets less of a game than the other. That is bullshit. I don't care if Sony does it or if Microsoft does it. It is pure bullshit.

So they might be making it the place to play games, but in the case of Avengers they seriously doing in the worst possible way. Sony customers and loyalists might not be bothered by it, but Xbox and PC gamers will remember that for a long time. Look at how much work it took on Microsofts part before PC gamers started to let them out of the doghouse for Game for Windows Live.
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I've seen people say this and I just can't agree with it. Unless X company helps fund a game that is dangerously close from not being made at all, helping fund a game to have exclusivity is just a nicer way of saying it. It's just as scummy, and IMO, more scummy than securing exclusive characters or relatively small features in a game. Unless Sony is actually paying to have Spider-Man / these features removed from the other platforms, then I see this as no worse than your examples... it's just to a smaller degree IMO.

If they are in fact paying to have these things removed from the other platforms (sorry haven't kept up with the story), then as a Sony fan, I can agree that it's scummy. But I also understand it's a business. Spider-Man has been synonymous with Sony for a long time, and they are in a position of power to do this. Had rolls been reversed and MS had a very popular character synonymous with their platform, I wouldn't doubt that they'd do the same.
 

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Best place to play? By what metric?

They're not the best place to play in terms of 3rd party games' performance/visuals.
They're not the best place to play in terms of value/services.
They're not the best place to play in terms of current pro-consumer moves.

How are they the best? Because they paid certain publishers to make the other platform's version worse by excluding some content? I know they have a super strong 1P but even that's up to personal taste and is subjective.
 
Eeyore

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No but I also don't care about marketing terms and taking them seriously is making it seem like they're legitimate.
 
Ænima

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Thats not the slogan Sony is going for PS5. PS4 had alot of slogans, for PS5 they want to use just one. "Play has no limits".
 
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