yup, makes sense. I guess it just comes down to how strongly they value having people move over to digital and what the numbers look like in terms of used games purchased / console etc etc. If i was Sony, i would be doing everything in my power to make the digital version as enticing as possible to really push people to it.
Canada basically is gonna live off of digital and the supposed super cheap xbox. I wouldn't be surprised if the Xbox gets a market sweep next gen.
Canada basically lives off of digital and the supposed super cheap xbox.
Yeah it will be interesting to see. Personally if i was Sony, i would launch both with a $100 difference to accelerate getting people locked into digital and then by mid-cycle completely remove the disc version citing some sort of stat about how few people still buy discs and then you can really start getting aggressive with pricing knowing everyone buying cheap is all in on digital.
A lot of people don't buy used games anyway. I'm all digital so I'd take a cheaper sku, the drive is useless to me. Sales are good enough these days on PSN I haven't felt the need to buy a used game in like 5 years.Do you really think $50 is a big deal when you are deciding between $550 and $600 or $450 and $500? At that price, i just don't see enough reason for most people to not continue to just get the disc version knowing they will therefore have the ability to keep buying used games.
A difference of 50 bucks between PS5 and PS5 DE is unrealistic because people would say "for 50 bucks more i get the disc drive so i will buy this one"
there will be minimum 100 bucks difference, if not more to get people either buying the "cheaper" PS5 (but they will pay more because digital only in the long term) or the higher priced normal PS5.
I'm more surprised Microsoft hasn't put out a tier of gamepass/gold that includes a console purchase / lease and lead with that instead of putting a big $500/$600 buy in.
My assumptions:
So that puts us at:
- The same way that Sony took a bigger hit on the $499 version of the launch PS3, they'll take a bigger loss on the PS5D. So even though the disk drive only costs $20 or whatever, I think we'll see a $100 price difference between skus (and the disk version will be much easier to get).
- Then, with Lockhart, my guess is that MS is saving like $125 between the disk drive and the die size / RAM (6gb x $7 = $42 on ram, $20 on the disk drive, and $60 on the APU). But at the end of the day they'll only be willing to eat an additional $75 of loss on Lockhart, similar to Sony and the PS5D. So I guess Lockhart will be $200 less than XSX. (Could they drop the controller and get down another $50?)
- Finally, I'm guessing XSX and PS5 will cost the same amount (Xbox's excess APU cost will be offset by PS5's more expensive SSD). And given that I don't see a lot of insiders disputing $600, I think that might be the price. (MS and Sony wouldn't be playing these pricing games if they felt comfortable just coming in at $499 for their consoles, I don't think.)
- XSX/PS5 = $599
- PS5D = $499
- XSS = $399
The 20GB version was not available worldwide AFAIKIf they price the cheaper SKU at 499, then the narrative will be PS5 at $499. Just like how the PS3 had a cheaper version that no one seems to remember.
If the things have to go this route with pricing the full version consoles (the non digital version, etc), this is more or less what I'm expecting. If you want to go further, just make SeS digital only and go with $300 for that.
Same here.
Oh i definitely hate it too but i just think that is how it will play out. I feel like both console makers want to get rid of discs completely and lock everyone into their stores. What complicates that is of-course the relationship with retailers like Game Stop and Best Buy and Amazon, the last two which i'm sure make a good amount of $ from game sales. Maybe they could work with some online retailers to offer some sort of like referral payment to entice them to still have their games be on the site. Who knows.This sounds like a pretty great idea from the business perspective if they can get away with it, even if its only in certain territories. But I'd absolutely hate it.
...But the narrative surrounding the PS3 wasn't that it was a $499 console, it was Five hundred and ninety nine US dollars. There's a reason no one talks about the $499 PS3, it was overshadowed by its big brother. If there are $549/$599 or even $499/$599 consoles, $599 will be the narrative surrounding the PS5.If they price the cheaper SKU at 499, then the narrative will be PS5 at $499. Just like how the PS3 had a cheaper version that no one seems to remember.
LOL
This is going to be the reverse of the Switch price reveal. It's going to be a reasonable price that will look like ridiculously good value because everyone has pumped up the expectations.
The world economy collapsing would be a big factor in a change in cost between February and now.While of course they are 110% more clued in to the industry than I am, I'm curious what drastically changed the price-point from this Bloomberg article from February? They expected costs to be about $450ish. Of course Covid difficulties could impact this, but I highly doubt the contracts and things they already had in place could change THAT drastically. Typically console makers take a loss on initial hardware sales and I totally expect that to be the case once again this time around with the rise of digital sales and the importance of locking people to their ecosystem.
I'm still expecting a $399 digital edition and perhaps a $499 standard PS5.
So far all signs point to PlayStation continuing what worked with the PS4 ie sell near cost. BOM on a disk drive is like $20. There's no need to have the two versions have a significantly different BOM-MSRP ratio. Be it one at a significant loss or one at a significant profit or whatever.
They would have to ship with a $60 game in every disk box to justify a $100 price difference. The PS5 doesn't have a Wii Sports(a game that 99% of console buyers want) so that's probably not the best idea.
No. There's a custom controller chip in PS5, yeah, but it's likely to be cheap in production and XSX will have to use an SSD controller too for its SSD storage so the only difference is that PS5's custom one will likely have higher R&D costs to amortize over the length of the gen. Flash itself is just your ordinary MLC or TLC flash for both.Don't you think the custom SSD would add a significant cost for the PS5?
Yup, makes sense. I admit i view things in the vacuum of me and my friends and how we buy our games, but i don't think i've actually seen anywhere what % of people still actually buy used games. If the number is something small like 10% or less of games are used then it probably doesn't make sense for Sony to worry about driving people aggressively.A lot of people don't buy used games anyway. I'm all digital so I'd take a cheaper sku, the drive is useless to me. Sales are good enough these days on PSN I haven't felt the need to buy a used game in like 5 years.
They can't really make the price difference bigger because the disc drive itself doesn't cost much, the cost of the console isn't lowered much at all by removing it.I know that. Which is why I'm saying it wouldn't make sense to only make it $50 cheaper than the disc version when there is much more value to Sony to have someone locked into an all digital console. You would think they would make the price difference bigger to entice more people to get that one.
More specifically, transport capacity has shrunk dramatically, which means transporting large quantities of goods is significantly more expensive this time last year. Large part of the reason why I think $399 is off the table.The world economy collapsing would be a big factor in a change in cost between February and now.
The world economy collapsing would be a big factor in a change in cost between February and now.
Next-gen in LATAM is goodbye at 500 bucks as well, isn't going to be extremely expensive too?