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Digital Foundry: Borderlands 3 PS4 Pro vs Xbox One X Graphics Comparison
- Thread starter Dreams-Visions
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Wow looks like Xbox One X is the way to play.
Quick footnotes, both systems 1080p performance mode, 1800p resolution mode. Performance mode on both consoles isn't great. 50-60 fps on foot, dropping to 40's when driving. XB1X Resolution mode is the preferred way to play where its locked 30, 1800p, whereas the PS4 Pro is 1800p but sub 30fps.
No base console comparison yet as they just received their copies yesterday.
Quick footnotes, both systems 1080p performance mode, 1800p resolution mode. Performance mode on both consoles isn't great. 50-60 fps on foot, dropping to 40's when driving. XB1X Resolution mode is the preferred way to play where its locked 30, 1800p, whereas the PS4 Pro is 1800p but sub 30fps.
No base console comparison yet as they just received their copies yesterday.
Hmmm interesting. A shame X can't run it at a locked 60fps but maybe a patch in the future? Interesting that both X and Pro share the same resolution. Maybe they can improve it for Pro and if need be lower the res?
Not gonna watch the video because I really just want to wait until I play it myself. :)
Haven't watched the video yet but surely they dont say X1X Resolution mode is the preferred mode...It's technically 30 fps but without any kind of smoothing it feels like a really rough 30fps.
Overall the IQ and Performance of the game is dissapointing. Feels like Im playing a TellTale FPS game.
They said Gearbox fixed Battleborn to run way better with a patch so there's hope that we get a bunch of fixes eventually. Also the PS4 Pro version makes no sense because there's a slight asset difference between Pro/X and its better on the Pro but the Pro can't hold a locked 30 in resolution mode. Why would they do that? Seems rushed so hopefully Gearbox has some fixes in the works.
Its the preferred mode since performance mode varies so wildly. I haven't had an issue with resolution mode on the X. I went from playing Gears 1 and 2 to (30fps games) to BL3 without an issue. Now if you're staring at 60fps for a while, yea 30fps looks broken.
Looks like both versions still need some work to improve performance.
Locked 30fps on X looks to be the best way to play on console at the moment. Hopefully they can patch it to improve performance mode on both.
Also interesting to see the Pro have a few graphical settings higher than the X version, making it look slightly better (better AF, more foliage on Pro)
Locked 30fps on X looks to be the best way to play on console at the moment. Hopefully they can patch it to improve performance mode on both.
Also interesting to see the Pro have a few graphical settings higher than the X version, making it look slightly better (better AF, more foliage on Pro)
That's weird to say as DF clearly states at around 4:58 markthat if you want the best looking way to play it, you shouls go for P4 Pro :D
Do they talk about HDR because this game looks like a good step up from 2's. Hope the patch in 29 days time does some good.
Between the wonky console versions and high demands on PC this game seems to be a mess performance wise.
Yea. The current consoles have overstayed their welcome more than any other generation I feel.
Destiny 2 is 30fps on consoles and feels great to play. Borderlands 3 at 30fps on consoles feels incredibly choppy and is near unplayable.
Performance mode on the X feels ok...it does suck when it dips though.
Sanctuary on ps4 pro is absolutely awful, its serviceable up until then. Plus with the huge delay and lag with the menus, this game needs a lot of performance work. Resolution mode in Sanctuary is like very jittery 20 fps tops
I don't think it's weird to say. They might just have a preference for performance consistency over visuals.
You're right that DF said that it "looks" the best on PS4 PRO, but the only way to play it with a consistent framerate on console appears to be on an Xbox One X in resolution mode. If I were to play the game, it'd probably be that way (or try my best on my PC, but I don't know about the PC version's "quirks" which it apparently might have...)
Thanks, you dudes at Digital Foundry for the quick analysis! Wasn't expecting anything this soon. (I mean... the game came out yesterday and it didn't sound like many people got pre-release access. I'd imagine if the game runs like this they damn sure didn't send Digital Foundry copies, lol...)
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The comparison with Gears shows how terrible this port is. Gears 5 not only looks better but runs massively better whilst being at higher resolution literally all the time according to that DF video. The fact these consoles especially the PRO are struggling to even hit 60 at 1080p is tragic. I think this is another case of terrible optimisation rather than hardware limitations. Control looks like a game which suffers from hardware limitations but this game looks bland as hell and still manages to perform worse compared to games which look better and run better whilst being at higher resolutions.
I would have bought this on PC anyway but after hearing about the shitty VM/spyware and constant 2mbps upload BS that's going on with the PC version I think I'll give this game a hard miss.
I would have bought this on PC anyway but after hearing about the shitty VM/spyware and constant 2mbps upload BS that's going on with the PC version I think I'll give this game a hard miss.
Yuck, Pro version is not something I'd want to play.
They also show a game that runs like ass on Pro.
They also show a game that runs like ass on Pro.
I can't understand why anyone would not play this game in performance mode.
It's not a perfect 60fps but, it's really not bad at all. In my opinion, with the cel-shaded art style, the increased resolution outside of performance mode just isn't worth it at all.
It's not a perfect 60fps but, it's really not bad at all. In my opinion, with the cel-shaded art style, the increased resolution outside of performance mode just isn't worth it at all.
Borderlands 3 is giving beefy PC's a hard time at the moment though, seems like a bit of optimisation is needed across all versions of the game. I know your point is wider than B3 and as much as we need better CPU's we need better optimisation.
Looking at the video it looks like resolution mode holds 30fps with no frame pacing issues. There could be an issue with input lag which is something DF seem to rarely comment on.
PS4 Pro performance is just crap all round.
I don't see how that happened considering that there are barely any differences compared to B2. I mean when DF showed the borderlands 1 remaster it almost looked the same as 3. I am waiting for it's release on steam to buy it, but is the graphical difference big compared to B2?
Not a particularly great performance profile in any regard. 1800p on the X is disappointing.
I'm playing on Pro in performance mode and it's running ok for me.
I certainly wouldn't call it ass. It's a fun game so far.
I certainly wouldn't call it ass. It's a fun game so far.
I honestly haven't felt like the framerate has been a huge hindrance for me in performance mode on my Pro. The stuttering/lag in the menus is much more noticable and I hope that gets fixed ASAP. Of course, I hope the performance gets ironed out in all modes on all systems sooner rather than later. I know "4K" is a nice buzzword but it doesn't mean jack shit if the game runs like ass. 1440p at a solid 30fps would be SO much better for the resolution mode on PS4 Pro.
Going to wait for a patch or two before buying this. It is stupid that they have the resolution mode for both at 1800p. It is like they did not test it at all. With the increased power of the "X" 1800p is fine targeting 30fps, but on PRO it should of been dropped to 1440p to maintain the frame rate. It just seems like the game was not optimized very well regardless of what setting you play it on with consoles.
Gears 5 doesn't run anywhere close to a locked 60fps either, it's the Jaguar CPUs. People don't realise just how ancient and slow they are by modern standards compared, even low end PCs these days destroy them. It's likely why The Coalition decided to go with dynamic 4K because locked 60fps wasn't happening at any resolution. Gears 4 was 1080p and still ran at 45fps under heavy load. Not to say BL3 runs good but being ''just 1080p" doesn't matter if you're gimped by the CPU.
The PC version sounds like an even bigger mess so there's no doubt there are some e=serious optimisation issues going on here. We've seen similar issues with basically every "60fps" performance mode in recent times outside of something like Shadow of the Colossus.
Not weird at all, it looks a little better but runs worse.
Looks good on 1x, and not to bad on the pro, resolution mode is disappointing on the pro though.
Good analysis from DF as always.
Good analysis from DF as always.
On x1x, there's a point further on in the game where even on performance mode, I'm pretty sure the frame rate is below 30
The idea that they might've just taken the "settings" from the base consoles that they brought up in the video is pretty baffling. Anticipating their video comparing all 4 console versions to see if this was true or not.
Yep....
I knew something was wrong. Messing up with reviewers. PC builds everywhere.
Ultra settings on a GTX 1070 barely hits 60 fps at 1080p.
Not touching this until its properly stable.
I knew something was wrong. Messing up with reviewers. PC builds everywhere.
Ultra settings on a GTX 1070 barely hits 60 fps at 1080p.
Not touching this until its properly stable.
Performance mode runs is 1080p. It's not blurry by any stretch of the imagination. Do you remember the games at the beginning of this generation? 720p? Now that could be called blurry, but this ain't it.
Also, an image can be blurry, or it can be jaggy, but it really can't be both.
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Not being able to hit 1080/60 in an FPS game on an enhanced console is very disappointing. Hopefully some ironing out patches are on the way. Otherwise, the next-gen consoles can't come soon enough. Really feeling the punishment with these old CPUs lately