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Devil May Cry 5 |OT| It's been 11 years since we last met. Where does the time go? [Now on Xbox Gamepass]
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I wonder if you could use this to cheese the S rank for the mission given you'd be skipping most battles but not technically all of them. For example, at the start of the mission you could get a 6k style score if you RG for SSS and then maintain it (they're only Hell Cainas), then use this skip to jump to the boss fight and again put together a very high style score which isn't that hard. Or would missing out on the other battles lower the end score even though you never participated in them?
Easiest way to get your S Ranks is always the "No Damage" Route because the Multipliers are that great.
So the Red Orb Stuff doesn't matter at all because you would lose the No Damage Multiplier which is even with low Style Points usually a guaranteed S Ranking.
Even Mission 8 is easily doable once you figured out how to dodge the Tentacles in Phase2 of the Boss though here it is probably easier to simply get the Style Points needed through fighting.
Neither Time or Style matter at all.
You can do all battles jumping and shooting around hoping to never have an enemy on your screen that can attack you.
Takes time but its the guaranteed working way for someone that wants the Trophy for all S Ranks while not being motivated,confident or willing to get "good" enough.
Sadly there are no Online Leaderboards like we had in DMC4 so there is no reason to play SSStylish and get as much of a Highscore as possible.
There is no reason to try over and over again if you can simply go the easy "No Damage" Route and be done with it if S Ranks are your only goal.
So the Red Orb Stuff doesn't matter at all because you would lose the No Damage Multiplier which is even with low Style Points usually a guaranteed S Ranking.
Even Mission 8 is easily doable once you figured out how to dodge the Tentacles in Phase2 of the Boss though here it is probably easier to simply get the Style Points needed through fighting.
Neither Time or Style matter at all.
You can do all battles jumping and shooting around hoping to never have an enemy on your screen that can attack you.
Takes time but its the guaranteed working way for someone that wants the Trophy for all S Ranks while not being motivated,confident or willing to get "good" enough.
Sadly there are no Online Leaderboards like we had in DMC4 so there is no reason to play SSStylish and get as much of a Highscore as possible.
There is no reason to try over and over again if you can simply go the easy "No Damage" Route and be done with it if S Ranks are your only goal.
That's Round Trip. It just looks different with DSD and is called Round Trips plural.
That explains it. I kinda like the way DSD lets you do certain things that would normally stop you from being able to attack but lets you keep attacking while doing them. It's kind of a nice way of showing through gameplay how much Dante's power has grown.
Yep. Not to mention you would normally have to switch weapons to continue attacking after Round Trip. You don't have that limitation with DSD.
Can't wait to try it out on harder difficulties. Apt description... Even the camera is perfect.
I never thought I'd say this
But DMD Fury is single-handedly changing my opinions of this game. This game was decent, nowhere near DMC3, NGB and GH, but now seeing how they incorporate fury in DMD? It's actually shit tier, we're talking below Bayo2 kinds of garbage.
What a sad, piece of shit of a game. Feel bad for anyone playing this more than the initial 20 or so hours.
Here I was thinking we'd end of with a "pillar" action game, turns out we only got a turd of a game.
Edit; before "get gud", they're not even hard. That's my issue. It's that the game goes to a crawl, rolling from SSS to B/C because of how the enemy design is. Good job Itsuno! You know exactly the tempo of what an action game is supposed to have.
But DMD Fury is single-handedly changing my opinions of this game. This game was decent, nowhere near DMC3, NGB and GH, but now seeing how they incorporate fury in DMD? It's actually shit tier, we're talking below Bayo2 kinds of garbage.
What a sad, piece of shit of a game. Feel bad for anyone playing this more than the initial 20 or so hours.
Here I was thinking we'd end of with a "pillar" action game, turns out we only got a turd of a game.
Edit; before "get gud", they're not even hard. That's my issue. It's that the game goes to a crawl, rolling from SSS to B/C because of how the enemy design is. Good job Itsuno! You know exactly the tempo of what an action game is supposed to have.
Man I really hate Nero's arm system. I think he would be much more interesting if I could just switch arms on the fly, and they only broke temporarily on hit.
As is, I feel I just have to stack duplicates of the arm I want to use. Not a very interesting way to play at all.
As is, I feel I just have to stack duplicates of the arm I want to use. Not a very interesting way to play at all.
Lmfao, when figuring out how the Fury attacks it gets a lot easier to parry and combo it.
The enemy design is great. Glad all of the enemies aren't just combo fodder.
*Yawn* plenty of advice has been posted on how to deal quickly with Furies.
So yeah, git gud
Tne reason the arms are so good is because they carry that risk of breaking.
That's the balancing.
You don't even need to git good.
Just use Buster breaker's breakage grab and call it a day lol.
I think it would've been more manageable if it was specifically their super moves that carry the risk of breaking them, rather than literally any damage at any point while the item is active.
For example: If I take a hit when Punch Line is on the other side of the room from me, it makes no sense that Punch Line would break.
Nero's arms bugged me at first, but once I actually accepted it and learned to work around it I ended up liking it. It's really fun to be able to unleash 3 super crazy powerful moves in a row at times. And getting to the end of a mission with just one arm left or no arms left but still getting a good rank is a good feeling.
Someone a few pages ago also mentioned that it fit the story and the character well in a thematic way, which is true and a nice touch. It's a good way to tie mechanics to characterization, themes, etc. It's not the greatest story ever written, obviously, but it's nice to see that extra bit of thought put into it.
Someone a few pages ago also mentioned that it fit the story and the character well in a thematic way, which is true and a nice touch. It's a good way to tie mechanics to characterization, themes, etc. It's not the greatest story ever written, obviously, but it's nice to see that extra bit of thought put into it.
I disagree on it not being interesting.
His moveset is all about gambling, having a mechanic with a high reward and a high risk is cool.
They'd probably have to tone some things down if they had free arm switching. I can see a setup of throwing out eight punchlines at once being pretty silly.
even if you had a point about their design(you dont, as most have provided ways to deal with them), the bolded is...laughable. grow up, and indeed, git gud
Well not really, in the sense that the super moves are you yourself breaking (or 'spending') them by choice.
The arms are fantastic all around, not just with their super moves.
The risk of breaking them in combat is mostly in the normal usage. In general you should aim not to get hit as best you can, this gives you even more incentive to do so.
They aren't tied to meter so their awesomeness is tied to your skill and your stock. Since they are dirt cheap and you can stock up to eight of them with no need for cooldown or needing to build meter (like Dante for SDT), I don't find it to be much of an issue overall. They are pretty overpowered.
Imagine writing an entire game off due to a single enemy encounter on the hardest difficulty setting.
You shouldn't be getting hit as the lock on persists even when fury teleports and becomes invisible.
Don't let the game beat you this hard, dude.
Wonder how he S ranked Heaven or Hell.
I guess the no-damage aspect helps when you're one-shotting everything but it's the giving of that OHKO that makes it challenging stringing together the style points. I have to imagine he's super reliant on RG for style rank boosting.
Really cool stuff though.
I guess the no-damage aspect helps when you're one-shotting everything but it's the giving of that OHKO that makes it challenging stringing together the style points. I have to imagine he's super reliant on RG for style rank boosting.
Really cool stuff though.
Well, let me give an example. If you're using Dante, you use Round Trip (original version), and while the sword is out of your hands, you can't attack. You have to switch to another weapon to keep up the pressure. But if you take a hit while Rebellion or Sparda is out of your hands, the sword doesn't explode. The attack is interrupted, but you don't lose your weapon. But if you take even one hit while dodging with Gerbera or with Punch Line out of your hand, that item is gone. You have to go without it, or go back to a shop point and buy more. And if you run out of Breakers during a fight, you have nothing. All you can do is basic Wire Grabs.
This is why I don't use them. I don't like Nero's playstyle on a general level and I am not good at avoiding damage while using him compared to Dante. I take a lot of hits, especially when I try to get creative. As a result, I have rendered Breakers completely vestigial to my postgame playstyle because the reward is not worth the risk for me anymore.
Yeah, having a mechanic with a cost separate from the DT gauge is a cool change of pace.
It's not going to be how everyone wants to play, and that's fine. But I love how DMC is making sure all it's playable characters have different gameplans. It's like a fighting game where I find a character I want to main because they have their own things that make them stand out.
I know once we have Bloody Palace I'll be spending most of my time there with Nero, but for those that don't care for him they still have Dante or V to choose from.
I found the Blitz enemies in DMC4 to be super straight forward. Dante especially had a silly variety of ways to brutalize them, particularly with Lucifer and Gilgamesh that you could stun-lock them or finish them so quickly they had no chance to react for easy style points.
Might have to whack out that game in the future at some point for a run through. Gonna be tough though coming off the back of this.
Might have to whack out that game in the future at some point for a run through. Gonna be tough though coming off the back of this.
I think this game has the best set of enemies in the series tbh. They basically just picked all the most fun types to fight in the previous games, as well as some cool original ones. None of them are as annoying to fight and break the flow as much as enigmas or those stupid chimeras.
Utilize Break Age attacks more often. Imagine taking 8 Rag Times with you. And doing their Break Age attack against tougher encounters.
Better yet. Do a Rag Time break age followed by a punchline break age. Think about those possibilities moving forward. Basic devil breaker attacks won't carry you on DMD like they did on lower difficulty settings.
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And a lot of enemies have weird quirks or mechanics that allow you to kill them quickly in group situations. Really well designed and promote experimentation and mastery of the game's systems
Furies are definitely worse than Blitzes in my mind. Blitzes are a pain in the fucking ass, but there are generally easy ways to trivialize them. Dante can do that to Furies with Ice Age, but Nero is entirely a game of luck on whether or not they use a move you're actually allowed to punish. They grind the pacing of a fight to a goddamn halt. Even if you know how to handle them it's just not fun.
With Dante, can you do Round Trip instantly without charging? Can you call the sword back after throwing it for Round Trip and ride it around to style? Ride it as a mobility option against bosses? And after you are done riding it can you send it back to continue attacking the enemy?
Punch Line is so much more than Round Trip.
You can carry up to 8 breakers at a time and the stages have Nico/statues that let you refill them. They are always there before a boss in particular so you never have to deal with it without a breaker. Breakers are also laying around as pick ups. They are also very cheap. Gerbera costs just 500 red orbs and the cost never goes up.
Yup, the resource management/risk gives Nero a unique aspect within the genre. It's very cool addition to his arsenal and makes sense for his character.
How to unlock a certain ex color:
Much Honestly I'm really enjoying the gifs that you and SunhiLegend are making. Keep up the great work.
You can unlock Vergil's ex color by beating both credit scene fights in SoS difficulty.
You don't even have to S rank the final boss. Just beat those two credit fights and you should be good. (Nico should compliment you and Dante should kill more enemies compared to Vergil)
You don't even have to S rank the final boss. Just beat those two credit fights and you should be good. (Nico should compliment you and Dante should kill more enemies compared to Vergil)
Much Honestly I'm really enjoying the gifs that you and SunhiLegend are making. Keep up the great work.
I think the issue for me is people are saying breakers are Nero's alternative to Devil Arms, but Devil Arms don't go away when you get hit. Again, managing consumables is just not something I want to do in my action games. Especially not consumables the game takes away FROM me. If it was my choice to sacrifice a Breaker to do a powerful move, that's fine, I can work with that. But the fact I pretty much always take hits while using breakers (especially their super moves) just makes them not worth my time to use anymore.
On Mission 13, and just discovered Dr. Faust. However, in trying to farm for Red Orbs, I can use the Gunslinger with it pretty effectively, but I was told to use the Hat Trick at the end as an AOE attack to really stack up the Orbs quickly. But I cannot figure out the timing on how to use it. When I press square just after getting the hat back, I immediately shoot red Orbs. Anyone got any tips?
Just do the O version of Hat Trick. It's easier to pull off. The trick is hitting the button right as the hat is coming into Dante's hand. A little too late and he'll just throw it again.
Wow, you guys weren't kidding about mission 10's S rank. What the hell is wrong with that one? I barely scraped by on Human.
Just look at it this way, can Dante do unlimited air dodges like Nero with Gerbera over and over?
That's the kind of stuff the risk system affords you. It gives you overpowered abilities on top Nero's amazing core abilities. The dude has so damn much without them, the breakers just make him that much more overpowered.
Tbh I can't see how the breakers aren't super useful even if you just use them for their breakage abilities and completely avoid using them normally. Look at the insane damage the Buster breakage does. You can do 8 of those in a row. No cool down. Imagine if Dante could do 8 SDTs in a row and then run his merry ass over to a statue to buy 8 more.
