So essentially it gave a massive tax break to Disney and now the two Democratic leaning counties conveniently will have to take up the $1 billion debt?
What the hell?!
What the hell?!
Kind of genius for Rs when you put it that waySo essentially it gave a massive tax break to Disney and now the two Democratic leaning counties conveniently will have to take up the $1 billion debt?
What the hell?!
They are so long as business stays in line and supports the dictator, see Russia.I was told fascism and capitalism are best friends, lol ... yeah ... no
One of their news personalities, I forget his name, I think his wife posted pics of the whole family at Disney World just recently. Making him a huge hypocrite of course. IIRC, they had to disable comments on their post and he tried to wave it off as "only went for the kids". Yeah, sure.If insane right wingers are going to ban Disney entertainment from their homes, what's left for those kids? What increasingly nutty conservative world view movies and shows for children exist to meet their warped and bigoted standards?
I'm not the biggest Disney fan but they pretty much own everything that kids love.
Considering how people here have voted on measures that pertain to property tax increases, I have a hard time believing that they'll just swallow the speculated 20-25% property tax increase.They don't lose any sleep when billionaire sports team owners pass the burden of stadium costs onto taxpayers, so I doubt the GOP will care about this.
DeSantis will probably just make all the roads in Disney World toll roads to make up for it. They love those in Florida.
realistically what can they do? the counties directly affected only have so many votes and are probably against this to begin with. both the house and senate are republican. the governor is republican. the vast majority of floridians aren't going to be affected by this.
You can argue all you want about whether or not Disney should have had this right, but from that thread linked above-
This is going to HURT the people living in the two counties affected.
Ah great I bought a house last year in Orlando. Nice. Thanks DeSantis.
I hope this costs him the election. Mothetfucker thinks he won by a massive margin when in reality it was a few thousand votes.
Never doubt GOPs stupidity/ruthlessnessIt's such a bunch of politcal bullshit. This won't happen lol, they're not about to put those tax liabilities on individuals in said counties.
Not American, hopefully this isn't a thread derail: why does Disney have "a private government" in Florida? That sounds really weird, I'm assuming there's some greater context I'm lacking.
Probably doesn't care since Orlando votes blue anyway.Gonna be a lot of tax payers that will take the brunt of this decision. Shame.
It's such a bunch of politcal bullshit. This won't happen lol, they're not about to put those tax liabilities on individuals in said counties.
Let 'em do it and reap the consequences of their actions. Would be nice to see that for a change…
i don't recall hearing anything from them before the bill was voted on. they could've started with saying something about it. they've got a kabillion dollars. they can reach people with a message if they want to. surely Mr. Disney could arrange a phone call with legislators in the state and strongly encourage them to not vote for this ridiculous bill?
whether or not it would've had any effect on the vote is a different question.
It's a short term boon for Disney, because they get some money and lose some debt, but for a company of their size, they'd probably prefer to have the special district. Needing to ask permission for things and rely on local governments to approve changes is going to gum up their works, and I think over the next ~50 years, they'd happily pay more if it means upping their efficiency and, thus, potential profits.I get what this does as mostly a boon for Disney (lol) but say Desantis gets the boot, could a new gov reverse it? Would Disney even want it back?
It's such a bunch of politcal bullshit. This won't happen lol, they're not about to put those tax liabilities on individuals in said counties.
Its a little hard to keep track of since there seems to be a ton of different takes on it, but i saw something yesterday or the day before that essentially this wouldn't probably go into effect until the election. Cleverly when DeSantis is probably planning to bail on the state and run for the presidency.I get what this does as mostly a boon for Disney (lol) but say Desantis gets the boot, could a new gov reverse it? Would Disney even want it back?
Yes I do lol. I think he realizes this is a zero sum loss for him long term.Do you think DeSantis really cares about democratic leaning counties?
Now watch as an Orlando exodus happens due to the massive rise in taxes.
So essentially it gave a massive tax break to Disney and now the two Democratic leaning counties conveniently will have to take up the $1 billion debt?
What the hell?!
The dems are fucking lost and useless in 2022.As a Canadian, I've seen a lot of online discourse about this, but have any big name Dems really spoken much about this? If not, it really feels like they're letting the GOP shape the narrative on this, regardless of the outcome.
They are the largest private job creator and taxpayer in the state. If govt is holding up plans to expand the park and with it create more jobs and bring in more tourism money to the state, that will put pressure on politicians.It's a short term boon for Disney, because they get some money and lose some debt, but for a company of their size, they'd probably prefer to have the special district. Needing to ask permission for things and rely on local governments to approve changes is going to gum up their works, and I think over the next ~50 years, they'd happily pay more if it means upping their efficiency and, thus, potential profits.
7/ When Reedy Creek goes away, that tax goes away, and Orange and Osceola Counties can't do anything to get it back. However, the counties will now be responsible for all of the services Reedy Creek provides and all of the debt it has accumulated.
11/ That doesn't appear to be the case here because a vote was never held to implement the district 55 years ago.
Essentially, Disney will lose some control of its property, and get a $163 million per year tax break and ~$1 billion of debt passed onto taxpayers.
I have bad feeling that they'll take a different lesson: to shut up about any cultural issues and play nice with the authoritarian party.Should be a warning to corporations about the danger of ignoring the rise of fascism from within the GOP.
Bob Chapek is a such a foolPretty important to note that Disney originally funded parties that supported this bill. It wasn't until rampant outcry within their own company that they voiced a pale disapproval. So the get the worst of both worlds. Way to go you stupid mouse.
Conservative legislation in a nutshell, regardless of the country. Especially nowadays, where conservatism is mostly indistinguishable from fascism.A decision that benefits literally nobody and hurts everyone. Just to be spiteful. Fuck this authoritarian asshole and GOP tactics.
it all happened in less than a week. sure desantis postured about it earlier but it was pretty quick. plus how do you get people, specifically republicans, to care about something that doesn't affect them? hell, they might even enjoy it if it mainly affects blue areas. why would elected officials not do something that their red base loves? they eat this dumb shit up.
Aside from the reason for this to occur, why are we giving megacorporations this kind of agency in the first place?
Reading a lot of these recent GOP news threads just drives the point that there's still plenty of people that either don't understand, or are straight up in denial, that this country is in thrall to a surging fascist movement and what exactly that means.
His opponent in the upcoming election is Charlie Crist, who is already seemingly weaponizing the decision. I'd imagine he is going to hit on it repeatedly in the coming months since it's an easy economy+taxes layup that will move fence sitters/moderates.As a Canadian, I've seen a lot of online discourse about this, but have any big name Dems really spoken much about this? If not, it really feels like they're letting the GOP shape the narrative on this, regardless of the outcome.
It's such a bunch of politcal bullshit. This won't happen lol, they're not about to put those tax liabilities on individuals in said counties.
You should have seen the shit Mike Huckabee was peddling as conservative propaganda but for kids, a few years back,. Had like a 9/11 episode and everything.If insane right wingers are going to ban Disney entertainment from their homes, what's left for those kids? What increasingly nutty conservative world view movies and shows for children exist to meet their warped and bigoted standards?
I'm not the biggest Disney fan but they pretty much own everything that kids love.
DeSantis seems to have realized that he messed up potentially:
i'm not saying Disney could've necessarily stopped it. i'm saying it might've been worth the effort to try. you know, for human rights and all. afaik the company only spoke out about it after they were pressured to do so by employees after the passage of the bill. so to me it's clear they don't really care too much about the issue.
which makes it morbidly humorous that they're now being "punished" by Florida.