I don't know what it is that you think Bernie will be able to do differently.the supposedly woke moderates keep capitulating to republicans despite the fact that they keep telling us that trump is an existential threat. why should i expect any better for a biden presidency?
She's doing her part in keeping Biden unviable in MA.I almost screamed at my mom for voting for Bloomberg in MA. I felt really bad but I couldn't believe it after I've complained about him for the last two months when I talk with her. I still don't think she understood it and I know it's MA anyway but man I was pissed.
I almost screamed at my mom for voting for Bloomberg in MA. I felt really bad but I couldn't believe it after I've complained about him for the last two months when I talk with her. I still don't think she understood it and I know it's MA anyway but man I was pissed.
That's exactly what it is.
The Bernie Sanders coalition needs to push back hard these next two days to take back the public narrative/perception or we risk losing everything.
Well yea, Pete has made it clear he thinks Sanders is a threat to the ability to remove Trump.
Pete was never going to be viable post NH, he was always going to drop out either after SC or ST.
It's a strategy we've never seen work, not in the modern era anyways, I can't speak to what happened in the past.
My mom was considering Pete. It's infuriating when you tell them what's wrong with them and they say things like "Oh well I still like him the best." HOW!?!?! WHY?!?!?!
Ah yeah, I get where you are coming from. I'm not very optimistic about getting anything through any republican majority either. A large reason I'm hoping for Sanders is actually on the basis of what he can legally do with just the executive powers, ie sweeping climate action, student loan forgiveness(not that I need it anymore), marijuana legalization and lowering drug prices.Like I said, I just don't think this difference in attitude will have any sort of meaningful impact.
Yes, that is one of the main reasons I'm supporting Bernie on Tuesday. I do think he will pass more progressive policy via EOs than the other candidates would. I just don't think he will be particularly successful in terms of major legislation.Ah yeah, I get where you are coming from. I'm not very optimistic about getting anything through any republican majority either. A large reason I'm hoping for Sanders is actually on the basis of what he can legally do with just the executive powers, ie sweeping climate action, student loan forgiveness(not that I need it anymore), marijuana legalization and lowering drug prices.
Well, the Government Shutdown was stopped once the Flight Attendants Union threatened to strike.
Protests and strikes can work, but it'll take a special kind of person to mobilize all the people.
Absolutely monstrous turnout in LA.
The livestream timer says less than 5 minutes until it starts.
Amen. I'd love to be wrong, though.Yes, that is one of the main reasons I'm supporting Bernie on Tuesday. I do think he will pass more progressive policy via EOs than the other candidates would. I just don't think he will be particularly successful in terms of major legislation.
Could be right for sure. At least the Senate majority is needed with a push for ending of the filibuster. As for the bolded, you kind of have to think that closest window in the modern era was 2008-2010. And instead of going for the most bold things possible to move forward progressive goals aimed at regular people, we picked the most moderate/centrist course of action possible. Then took care of businesses rather than individuals.
Yes, that is one of the main reasons I'm supporting Bernie on Tuesday. I do think he will pass more progressive policy via EOs than the other candidates would. I just don't think he will be particularly successful in terms of major legislation.
I don't understand people who cheer for Executive Orders. It enables wannabe dictators like Trump. The executive branch needs less power, not more.
Well, the Government Shutdown was stopped once the Flight Attendants Union threatened to strike.
Protests and strikes can work, but it'll take a special kind of person to mobilize all the people.
Absolutely monstrous turnout in LA.
The livestream timer says less than 5 minutes until it starts.
Even in the event of no major legislation initially, the message will be loud and clear; and we'll work to vote in Senators who'll approve his M4A legislation if we need to.
I don't understand people who cheer for Executive Orders. It enables wannabe dictators like Trump. The executive branch needs less power, not more.
I don't understand people who cheer for Executive Orders. It enables wannabe dictators like Trump. The executive branch needs less power, not more.
I say all is fair. Come in, make sweeping reforms, use EVERY tool available to the nth degree to make America a better democracy. And then right before you leave, set the power level down to where it should have been all along.
The ends justify the means. Save the world first, complain later.
The stuff I'm cheering for, Congress has given the president the power to do. I'd also be willing to bet Congress might start considering rolling back some of these executive powers if a president Bernie went to town within the confines of what he could legally do.I don't understand people who cheer for Executive Orders. It enables wannabe dictators like Trump. The executive branch needs less power, not more.
I don't understand people who cheer for Executive Orders. It enables wannabe dictators like Trump. The executive branch needs less power, not more.
I say all is fair. Come in, make sweeping reforms, use EVERY tool available to the nth degree to make America a better democracy. And then right before you leave, set the power level down to where it should have been all along.
The ends justify the means. Save the world first, complain later.
I say all is fair. Come in, make sweeping reforms, use EVERY tool available to the nth degree to make America a better democracy. And then right before you leave, set the power level down to where it should have been all along.
The ends justify the means. Save the world first, complain later.
Sanders' rally stream finally went live. The crowd is absolutely massive.
That's interesting. Could be true for sure. Although the banks were already on fire and those effects were immediate. I wonder what things would have looked like had legislation been focused on developing programs for HUD to offer to take over individual distressed mortgages, allow homeowners to stay there with modified payment terms, with a built in phase out process to eventually sell mortgages back to banks once they and the people got back on their feet.The actual problem is Obama took over just as the collapse was beginning, not 3 years into the collapse.
Thus, regardless of whether or not Obama did the right thing, even with a massive stimulus and such, things likely wouldn't have turned around enough by 2010 to stop a backlah.
The way the founders created the laws all but guarantees a strong executive it had to be intentional. Political parties were always going to form and then the Senate fucked things further with the filibuster. The only way executive powers weaken is by nuking the filibuster and congress actually passing laws on a more regular basis not shoehorning shit into budget and other must pass bills. Probably need something alarming for the status quo to change. It's why Sanders pisses me off with his promises of shit he know he can't do because our current system of government isn't designed to pull off any of the things he wants.I don't understand people who cheer for Executive Orders. It enables wannabe dictators like Trump. The executive branch needs less power, not more.
Thats... not how it works.
If a POTUS can expand powers and initiate sweeping reforms, once the precedent is set anyone following them will have the same abilities.
yeah the building is packedSanders' rally stream finally went live. The crowd is absolutely massive. That was the loudest cheer for a candidate I've heard yet lol. Sounded like it shook the arena lol.
Thats... not how it works.
If a POTUS can expand powers and initiate sweeping reforms, once the precedent is set anyone following them will have the same abilities.
The precedent is already setInstitutional degradation, lack of moderation and forebearance when exercising power is how you get Trump. What you propose would set precedents that weaken American democracy, you can't just "reset" it after a term ends.
not cave in to them? that's always been his thing.I don't know what it is that you think Bernie will be able to do differently.
it still happens in places like india and france and we did sort of see it happen here, just on a small scale with culinary 226. the leadership clearly wanted to endorse biden but the pro-bernie rank and file kept them from doing it. then when they tried to go against m4a the workers once again broke rank and voted for bernie. its small scale but it at least illustrates what happens when you have the support of workers.It's a strategy we've never seen work, not in the modern era anyways, I can't speak to what happened in the past.
Positive brand power for progressives. Negative, radioactive brand power for social conservatives and Republicans.
The Republicans hate Hillary but woo boy that seems quaint compared to how much they hate AOC.
I actually completely agree with this on a theoretical level. The abuse and overuse of EOs is inappropriate.I don't understand people who cheer for Executive Orders. It enables wannabe dictators like Trump. The executive branch needs less power, not more.
...and then what?
continue not caving in to them
That's interesting. Could be true for sure. Although the banks were already on fire and those effects were immediate. I wonder what things would have looked like had legislation been focused on developing programs for HUD to offer to take over individual distressed mortgages, allow homeowners to stay there with modified payment terms, with a built in phase out process to eventually sell mortgages back to banks once they and the people got back on their feet.
And what would that accomplish?