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Dedicated fans reverse engineer original uncompressed Super Mario World music samples.
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These sound so good! I can't wait to hear Star Road with the secret Mario theme, and SMW has my favorite End Credits track out of all the games. If they manage to do the same thing with Yoshi's Island I will freak out
The samples were fished out of the gigaleak so there might be ones that were in the music for Yoshi's Island too.
That's really amazing. By restoring do they just mean for listening or could there be a way actually add these uncompressed samples back into the game somehow?
Some SNES emulators allow MSU1 soundtracks... I am so excited to play this if they can redo every track!
Zelda 3 next please!
You'd be surprised at just how many game soundtracks from the SNES to even the PS2 used samples from the M1, D-50, SC-55, SC-88, etc. Just last week I found the original sample for the slap bass used in Romancing Saga 1, 2 and 3, on a TX16W. A lot of Nintendo games used D-50 sounds.
However you can definitely lose something when you try to recreate it using the sequence data from the game. Composers would use a lot of tricks to make the channel count and samples sound bigger and more detailed than they actually were, which ends up sounding like a mess when you shove the original sample on it.
However you can definitely lose something when you try to recreate it using the sequence data from the game. Composers would use a lot of tricks to make the channel count and samples sound bigger and more detailed than they actually were, which ends up sounding like a mess when you shove the original sample on it.
This was such an amazing game to come with the SNES console right off the bat. Compare to other "this comes with the system" games on other consoles and I don't think there's any better. (There's probably some I'm unaware of.)
I always loved the ragtime renditions of the "Athletic" tune. Like this one that was a sight read:
I always loved the ragtime renditions of the "Athletic" tune. Like this one that was a sight read:
You can actually tell they are steel drums on Overworld. Idk how I never noticed that before
I love Tom Brier's playing. It's a shame about what happened to him
I love Tom Brier's playing. It's a shame about what happened to him
The SD2SNES/FX Pack Pro supports MSU1 as well.
These songs sound great.
Paging Jammin' Sam Miller, someone get him on this stat. Seriously though, these sound incredible.
Going to listen to this with a headset later. Sounds amazing straight up on my phone's speakers already.
I've been listening to that cleaned up Forest of Illusion track for 20 minutes now. These are awesome.
I honestly don't find them nearly as interesting to listen to as the originals. They sound like generic 90s rompler music/MIDI files now whereas it was all the tricks and creative choices behind the optimization techniques that made SNES music stand out from its more advanced contemporaries.
Awesome all around. Still love how much of the sound track is the same melody played different ways.
I don't know how well you follow the Tom Brier situation (I personally don't follow it too closely) but as of a few months ago Keeper1st put an update on youtube a few months ago saying that Tom has finally been moved to a neurological rehab centre. It is truly a shame what happened, and although he will probably never be able to play that well again, hopefully now he has the resources to improve his condition.
Why's that? Everyone has a different ear. Like what you like. Nothing wrong with that.
I don't like them as much either, but I still find them kinda cool. To each their own. I grew up with these compressed SNES songs and fell in love with them, so decompressing them is going to sound weird to me.
I think a couple reasons some of these are off is due to the fact that the songs aren't exactly one-to-one recreations. Some of the attack/sustain/decay/release patterns are off on the strings in the Fortress song, and it also sounds like the Forest of Illusion song has a bit too much reverb added.
This is really impressive, but I.....think I like the original more by a fair margin? At least from what I've heard so far. The synths and some of the sounds here just don't sound very good to me. Something about it screams MIDI keyboard. Whereas I really like how the SNES soundchip sounds.
Yeah, I agree. What Super Mario World uses for its "strings", is basically just a single cycle looped waveform that's similar to a saw wave. It doesn't seem to have any roots in a full string sample even if you tried to cut it down, it actually reminds me of those very simple synthetic violin sounds you'd get on some old workstations.
And it's even present in Yoshi's Island too and used similarly to Mario World, despite that game having a full string sample. Koji Kondo could have used the full string samples like in many other songs in that game, so there's definitely a creative reason why he used such a simple sound that I think is lost here.
underwater and athletic sound great. fortress samples seem wrong to me, and the synth in the middle of the main overworld them sounds off too
so this is what koji kondo really wrote then huh? its kind of crazy hearing more details in the music, even instruments I didnt notice before. Pretty awesome stuff! obviously the originaly compressed versions are where the real nostalgia lies, but this is a really fun 'hd' style to listen to!
fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk this sounds so FUCKING GOOD
This is my favorite of all the restored tracks. The original was great, but something about this feels like it's taking me to some sort of fantasy world. I'm not even high.