Agreed. Outside of Kojima weirdness. The actually GAME itself looks incredibly boring.
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Death Stranding - 50-Minute TGS Gameplay Demonstration
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It depends on which MGS game you're a fan of. This looks like a MGSV sequel. I hated MGSV so........
Not all games need to be open world.
Thanks to all of you!
What an asinine jumble of words. People play games for myriad of reasons beyond just 'fun'. Storytelling, immersion, creativity, freedom, exploration, mechanics.
All are avenues that lead to immense potential satisfaction when playing a game.
Your comment is like saying that movies can't be good if it isn't a comedy. I mean, if you're not laughing and having fun, why even watch anything? It's ridiculous.
Yeah? Go ahead and play it now, suffer its consistently sub30fps framerate, its muddy-ass visuals, the constantly intrusive and seemingly neverending cut-scenes (even by MGS standards) and its woefully unsatisfying, wack-feeling, babby's first TPS controls, see how well you like it in 2019.
Was talking about Divinity II with my bro-in-law and it was a similar conversation on having so much control on your characters, their growth and how you approach the world. People can really dig into that minutia. If this game gives people the chance to run the game how they feel, with connecting the world together in a online fashion, running thru it handling the smallest of details/actions, it could just be a fun fun fun time for a portion of the gaming community.
Knew I should have included the /s at the end.
I was just trying to put what Braaier said in a way that would demonstrate how absurd his "observation" was.
Reminds me of MGS 3's tedious camo/food/healing mechanics combined with the emptiness of MGS 5's open world. Think I'll give it a miss.
I think the leveling-up system is what really gonna make this cool. I saw it this way:
- guy build ladder
- other guy upgrades ladder and becomes sturdier
- other guys upgrades ladder several times and eventually becomes an actual bridge.
I think a lot of stuff will become bigger and bigger by upgrades thanks to tools and cargos brought by different players. Maybe i saw it wrong but i could imagine players actually building full cities after a few months..
This is my theory from what i saw but maybe i'm wrong. Nothing confirmed that directly.
I'm not really interested in Borderlands. From what I've seen of it and past games it's just not my thing at all. So I wont buy it and I just accept that this game isn't for me. I don't/didn't go in Borderlands and list all the reasons why I don't like a game(s) I haven't played and don't intend to play.
I don't understand why people do this with certain games, Death Stranding being a current example of that.
I don't understand why people do this with certain games, Death Stranding being a current example of that.
Fuck, that sounds awesome and now I want it to be true.
One thing I love about Kojima gameplay walkthroughs (even going as far back as MGS2) is that he always finds ways to just fuck around and do some silly shit, lol
I get the feeling people have just skipped the video altogether.
Jesus, tell us what you REALY think. Each to their own man.
I went back to it a year or two ago and still had a very good time. Sometimes when you are a detractor, you just have to realize you are in the minority. Does it have performance issues and some counterintuitive design choices here and there? Sure. Doesn't change that the game was still hugely enjoyable for a majority of people who played it.
Funny how you're still following the game when you said this.
Why are you still here? Just to suffer?
Except this game does.
When the story is about walking across the entire USA, having a big map helps.
I'm actually hoping it isn't littered with derivative Korok seed-esque collectibles or pointless checklists like other open world games.
If you want flashy combat with a lot of explosions, over the top action set pieces guns blazing extravaganza i don't think this game is for you (and let's be honest we have a ton of games like that on the market right now).
This one is shaping up to be a more contemplative experience with a lot of exploration and that "enjoy the moment" mindset.
I'm pretty much in at this point since i love that kind of exploration that you have to prep up and be careful about what you doing etc
Plus Kojima's over the top bs weirdness that we all know and love
This one is shaping up to be a more contemplative experience with a lot of exploration and that "enjoy the moment" mindset.
I'm pretty much in at this point since i love that kind of exploration that you have to prep up and be careful about what you doing etc
Plus Kojima's over the top bs weirdness that we all know and love
It's a game about connecting the USA back together. If that was linear, it'd be the wackest thing on videogames.
I just wonder what people expected this game to be when they showed off the gameplay of it before? Like they never showed anything that made me think this would be more than what was shown now.
Can somebody give me the name of the song near the end of the demonstration? I can't play the video on my work's internet lol
Can somebody give me the name of the song near the end of the demonstration? I can't play the video on my work's internet lol
Might be the first Kojima game I dont buy. Not feeling this at all. But I felt that way since the beginning this just solidifies it.
I've seen people calling games like Dear Esther and Everybody gone to the rapture walking sims but they look nothing like Death Stranding. Do you know any games with similar gameplay to DS? I'd love to play them.
Nothing else to pay attention to these days.
I actually wish I could follow that up with a good Phantom Pain response but I'm way too tired to be witty right now.
Since reveal this game hasn't done it for me and it still isn't doing it for me. I just don't think it looks fun. I'll wait and see the reviews etc.
I think Kojima playing the M Y S T E R Y game has done more harm than good to this game's perception. It's actually really straightforward and easy to understand what the gameplay is about, but people watch the video with a close mind and can only see walking.
If a game was nonstop combat from start to finish, but in order to do this combat, all you did was hold forward on the analogue stick, it wouldn't be considered great gameplay.
What makes gameplay interesting is what you do to the game through the controller and how the game responds to your input, not just how exciting the action on screen is. If you try to forget the whole bullshit about creating a new genre and just judge the game on its merits, you can see A LOT of systems involved in every action that is taken for granted in most other games.
It's like seeing someone climbing a mountain in BOTW, looking at the stamina meter depleting and forcing the player to find little places they can stand on and recover their stamina, and then saying you don't get how that's any different from Uncharted 4, where you climb all the time, and that it was boring there because all you did was hold forward.
I'm not saying people don't like it because they don't get it, there's plenty to dislike here, but some of the reactions seem incompatible with what was shown. And I didn't even finish the video yet.
If a game was nonstop combat from start to finish, but in order to do this combat, all you did was hold forward on the analogue stick, it wouldn't be considered great gameplay.
What makes gameplay interesting is what you do to the game through the controller and how the game responds to your input, not just how exciting the action on screen is. If you try to forget the whole bullshit about creating a new genre and just judge the game on its merits, you can see A LOT of systems involved in every action that is taken for granted in most other games.
It's like seeing someone climbing a mountain in BOTW, looking at the stamina meter depleting and forcing the player to find little places they can stand on and recover their stamina, and then saying you don't get how that's any different from Uncharted 4, where you climb all the time, and that it was boring there because all you did was hold forward.
I'm not saying people don't like it because they don't get it, there's plenty to dislike here, but some of the reactions seem incompatible with what was shown. And I didn't even finish the video yet.
No thanks as of right now for me. I need to see way more if this if it is ever going to be in my library. The game just looks boring to me?
-way too much exposition, convoluted themes and dialogue
-there is just a certain amount of arrogance, self service and narcissism in all of this.
I hope it's good for the people who are into it, because the production vaues look great, but I think I am a hard pass at this point. 95 meta though?
EDIT: There, I took all of the rage out of it. I just don't like being told that someone is making a new pie that isn't a pie, but a new kind of category with the new not-pie in it and then when I see it, it's just another Pumkin Pie with some nice glaze on it, and then filled with so many spices from every other pie in an attempt to call it a new pie. Don't tell me you are the best pie maker and are making something revolutionary...just be humble, make the pie and watch my face melt off when I eat it. Then nod and smile.
-way too much exposition, convoluted themes and dialogue
-there is just a certain amount of arrogance, self service and narcissism in all of this.
I hope it's good for the people who are into it, because the production vaues look great, but I think I am a hard pass at this point. 95 meta though?
EDIT: There, I took all of the rage out of it. I just don't like being told that someone is making a new pie that isn't a pie, but a new kind of category with the new not-pie in it and then when I see it, it's just another Pumkin Pie with some nice glaze on it, and then filled with so many spices from every other pie in an attempt to call it a new pie. Don't tell me you are the best pie maker and are making something revolutionary...just be humble, make the pie and watch my face melt off when I eat it. Then nod and smile.
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Just not seeing that much very compelling about the exploration as of now. Not many hidden cool things, not much tension so far. The puzzle solving ideas are all good and fine but I'm not sure it will be that puzzle-y when you can just pick up your gear afterwards.
I think this tries to be like Botw in the sense that it tries to makes the journey engaging as well, but unlike Botw travelling in DS doesn't seem half as engaging as it is in Botw. I hope I'm wrong though.
The boss fight with the Lion also looked painfully slow. It felt like I was watching it in slowmotion. The combat at the camp also looked a bit cluncky, but I think they were holding back the weapons since Sam only use one gun there.
The boss fight with the Lion also looked painfully slow. It felt like I was watching it in slowmotion. The combat at the camp also looked a bit cluncky, but I think they were holding back the weapons since Sam only use one gun there.
They still are. RDR2 with its shitty controls and a pretty last gen mission design got 97 on metacritic just last year. Uncharted 4 won almost a 100 GOTY awards despite being a walking and auto climbing simulator for 10 out of its 15 hour campaign. Zelda BOTW has uninsipired dungeons, lots and lots of walking and dozens of flaws and yet its revered on era and also got a 97 metacritic.
People tend to ignore flaws however glaring if the overall experience is positive. I didnt care much for zelda and uncharted 4, but i was a lot more forgiving of RDR2 2's glaring issues. i wouldnt give it a 97 but it was my goty over GoW because when it worked, it was the best game of the year.
similar to MGS4, 30 minute cutscenes, two rushed chapters, poor retcons and nanomachines dont take away from some spectecular story moments, best mechanics and gameplay in the series, and some excellent boss fights. it came out in june and everyone was still pretty enamored with its come GOTY time. pretty sure you yourself gave it your goty 6 months after its launch. GTA4, Gears, LBP and Fallout 3 were its biggest competitors and they were all very flawed themselves. MGS4 simply did more things right then it did wrong.
It's post-post-apocalyptic. Like Horizon Zero Dawn, but in less time (I guess?)
Yeah, it looks so good :) Enough footage for me. Won't watch more (hopefully :P).
Give me the game already!!!
I'm really getting tired of people saying walking simulator. It's NOT. What fucking walking simulators have combat with oil hell cats and a exoskeleton that allows you to jump over trenches and have enemies that throw electric javelins at you? Honestly, if you say walking simulator, I'm just going to assume you're a troll.
And now someone says Uncharted is a walking simulator? WTF? This mind-numbingly stupid.
And now someone says Uncharted is a walking simulator? WTF? This mind-numbingly stupid.