What happened with that? Also is GB going out or something? I feel like I hear less and less things about them...
This is why I stopped listening to GBs goty stuff the last few years. Too many people that haven't all played the games so it's just "well Alex says it's amazing and if he feels that strongly I feel okay putting it on". Small groups a la the OG GB crew or this trio work better for whittling down contenders, though a big group with diverse tastes would be great for the "hey I just wanna show off a few games I really loved this year" that GB did a few years back.
They have definitely been in a local minima this past year+, and it isn't clear they can figure out how to refresh their bench and then retain them. Austin, Dan, Abby all leaving, most of the newer, more engaging voices (sorry, Ben, you're not my jam!). Would love to hear a candid discussion of how that's happened, what have been their constraints, whether it's their previous parent company unwilling to budget, an internal cultural issue of old vs younger staff, etc., or whatever. Not that they owe that to us, I'm just genuinely curious.
Definitely enjoyed it, thanks OP! Although I couldn't tell if they were suffering latency or just high/drunk from some of the pauses :P.
I'm sharing this sentiment. I love reading GOTY lists from various people on Giant Bomb but I stop listening to their GOTY casts. I just feel like most of them don't have enough time to play enough games to form arguments on GOTY list. So many great games got brushed aside just because most of them didn't play it.
Sadly no one in the world has that time. There are hundreds of at least interesting games released every year. No one can play through all of them. You try to touch the biggest ones and as many of the others as you can and then you do what you can. If you're passionate about something, you try to convince your coworkers to try it before voting starts and hope you can persuade them.
The indie game revolution changed things in a lot of great ways, but it also means that there are just too many interesting games releasing for anyone to have a hope of touching. I've been writing for various sites off and on for the better part of 20 years. 15 years ago if I touched 40 new games in a year, I'd hit at least most of the stuff that mattered. Now I've only scratched the surface at that point.
Sadly no one in the world has that time. There are hundreds of at least interesting games released every year. No one can play through all of them. You try to touch the biggest ones and as many of the others as you can and then you do what you can. If you're passionate about something, you try to convince your coworkers to try it before voting starts and hope you can persuade them.
The indie game revolution changed things in a lot of great ways, but it also means that there are just too many interesting games releasing for anyone to have a hope of touching. I've been writing for various sites off and on for the better part of 20 years. 15 years ago if I touched 40 new games in a year, I'd hit at least most of the stuff that mattered. Now I've only scratched the surface at that point.
Let the record show I knowingly traded Mario away as part of a deal to get Papers Please into the top 10.GB crews don't even play some of the mainstream games let alone all the smaller, well-received gems. I remember 2013, no one but Alex played Super Mario 3D World, and it was kicked out from top 10 just because Alex couldn't form arguments and gave up too early. That was the year that sours me the most. Had more people play that game, a freaking Mario game, it could easily be in top 10.
You worked some shenanigans that year.Let the record show I knowingly traded Mario away as part of a deal to get Papers Please into the top 10.
Let the record show I knowingly traded Mario away as part of a deal to get Papers Please into the top 10.
3D World was sooooooo badGB crews don't even play some of the mainstream games let alone all the smaller, well-received gems. I remember 2013, no one but Alex played Super Mario 3D World, and it was kicked out from top 10 just because Alex couldn't form arguments and gave up too early. That was the year that sours me the most. Had more people play that game, a freaking Mario game, it could easily be in top 10.
Ah, interesting, if you have a link I'd love to listen. That said, wasn't splitting into GBE part of trying to address that by increasing content production for the folks on the east coast? I'm sympathetic, though, we're a very senior organization ourselves and are looking at how to deal with some talent that just doesn't have headroom for title promotion, etc.Abby talked a little about this in one of the interviews she did. Said that because of the small size of the site and there being only so many people, there's really not much room to advance your career.
No bad vibes here against GB, I enjoy it when it sparks my interests, but I'm loving the old style hole being filled by these three. Mike is someone that hadn't been of any interest to me before this (was aware of him in the GSpot days and passed it off as bro-vibe US nonsense) but this whole thing has been silly and fun and very on point especially in the last two hours particularly. More! More!
Let the record show I knowingly traded Mario away as part of a deal to get Papers Please into the top 10.
All good, I love Abby so happy to listen in full. Thanks!I believe this was in Ben Hanson's interview over at MinnMax. Some kinder soul than me might timestamp you ;)
Looking at GB's list that year, I'll be controversial and say Super Mario 3D World is better than Divekick.Let the record show I knowingly traded Mario away as part of a deal to get Papers Please into the top 10.
Looking at GB's list that year, I'll be controversial and say Super Mario 3D World is better than Divekick.
Let the record show I knowingly traded Mario away as part of a deal to get Papers Please into the top 10.
Maybe this is a dumb question but do they do highlights in a condensed form? Seven (7!) hours is way too long for me but I'm interested! I laughed my ass of at Dan's Mario rating thing but even that was something I had to skim because it was too long.
I wish there was a timestamped reply like giant bombcasts often do - but they disabled comments.
Let the record show I knowingly traded Mario away as part of a deal to get Papers Please into the top 10.
Let the record show I knowingly traded Mario away as part of a deal to get Papers Please into the top 10.
Let the record show I knowingly traded Mario away as part of a deal to get Papers Please into the top 10.
Dan really has some damn dumb arguments at times that games shouldn't be on the list, the then turns around and uses the exact same ones for why the games he likes should be on the list.
I definitely fist pumped when I got to that moment in the podcast. Papers Please is a seminal game for its UI/controls and message, every PC player (especially seasoned ones that are used to the common genres) should try it.Let the record show I knowingly traded Mario away as part of a deal to get Papers Please into the top 10.
This post is bad! 😭
There are some timestamps now. Haven't made my way through the whole thing yet, so they are up to the point where I'm at.
Saaaaaame. That format really killed the enjoyment as a watcher. Interested to see how they'll do it this year.Thanks for sharing. I watched most of it and enjoyed it more than Giant Bomb`s GOTY 2019, tbh.
Saaaaaame. That format really killed the enjoyment as a watcher. Interested to see how they'll do it this year.
I consider Mario 3D World to not only be one of the best 3D Mario games, but one of the best *Mario* games. It'll get its due next year, finally. (I hope.) My rationale at the time was that having Papers Please on the overall list was important symbolism from a site like Giant Bomb.