Yeah this seems like a MASSIVE heel turn for the guy that runs the channel. Not absolving anyone of guilt I just want to know more . If it is true this is a classic case of don't sh*t where you eat. It's no excuse to treat someone bad but working with someone directly or as a subordinate has to be tough after a failed relationship.Well, will wait for more information before making conclusions.
Actually, it is an great decision to point that out; it will remove any doubt about the HR research; to doubt it would be like saying "I don't trust a female" so people are more inclined to believe in the HR research. Even though it would cast doubt on another female, the accusing female in this case.
Explaining why loot boxes exist and the arguments in favor of them isn't running defense for the industry.
Considering the channel has basically revolved around James Portnow since day 1, there's zero chance he's getting sacked.
Both of those videos seemed pretty fair to me. Explaining why loot boxes exist and the arguments in favor of them isn't running defense for the industry. It's the starting point for an informed discussion.
You are reading the wrong Twitter thread.Regarding OP, I'm confused. The tweets reference a Tyler but James is the accused harrasser? Any more specific details somewhere?
Well if HR is independent from the company that's probably not the case. Still, not surprised they didn't find anything. Though having had an office relationship, all communication is hard to hide, especially if the other side owns it as well."Totally independent HR" gives me no confidence. HR is there to protect the company, not the employees.
Wait, is it that James knew about this "Tyler situation" and didn't help hard enough?Regarding OP, I'm confused. The tweets reference a Tyler but James is the accused harrasser? Any more specific details somewhere?
This is crazy though.As the boss he has power over her, so he should have resigned after the relationship ended, so the woman would have the freedom to keep working, or leave herself.
You are reading the wrong Twitter thread.
The Tyler Thread describe a situation, the James thread says "this kind of situation is why I quit ; the man in my situation is James".
Also, arguments about money lacking depends on the context. Simplifying game development as only AAA publishing will make you blind to the smaller people.
HR didnt find anthing, so I am not passing any judgment until we know all details, that can be never...
The fact that two people are leaving makes me think there's something there.
From the tweet edited in by a mod, and upon skimming through the chain, she states "James Portnow harrassed me out of my job at Extra Credits." So far nothing about Dan, but she said people were "blind" to the harrassment because they saw James as a trusted friend and James quote "drove out the few who did" (see through his subterfuge I assume)I'm not sure I understand, did Dan (the voice of EC) and her coworker leave because these allegations came to light? The first tweet (this Elan person) says she was harassed at ANET, was she the one harassed at EC too?
Not trying to stir any shit here, I'm just confused since I hardly ever watch EC and am not familiar with their staff or who is who on the videos.
Welcome to reality. You eventually discover that everything is somehow tainted with something unpleasant.can I like ONE SINGLE FORM OF MEDIA without this sort of crap. 2017 & 2018 continue being the years of milkshake duck, bloody hell.
Care to elaborate? I´m genuinely interested in what you mean by that...
No, thanks for posting the tweets. Thing is, I only watched (some of) the extra credits-episodes. I didn´t follow the group nor did I watch streams, panels or interviews and whatnot, so I have a very limited perception in regards to the EC-team. I thought maybe there were interviews, videos or other occasions where Portnow visibly acted weird or stated something controversial. Something where people noticed something being off.
The only difference between TB and a leader is that a leader would take responsibility for their actions instead of conveniently ignoring that every time they complained about those SJWs that their followers go harass them. Oh but I guess he was Deeply Concerned about demonstrably false claims about journalists so that makes it okay.Talk is cheap when speaking in hindsight and perhaps its just me but ever since James threw Totalbiscuit under the bus over a rumor of him being some sort of Gamergate "leader" I've had trouble taking his opinions seriously. TB had a significant role in helping them when they left the Escapist, gave them plenty of exposure and had James as a guest in his podcast. What James did or said about him during the GG debacle was lowly, specially now in the light of these allegations.
My personal opinion is generally biased against vocal male feminists, I find them more often than not predators in hide, and this may be the case with James. But this is definitely a questionable opinion and I understand many won't agree with me.
I hate that this is happening, but reading through the thread, can someone just explicitly say what has happened? What exactly went wrong? Is James leaving because he was involved or because he doesn't condone what happened?
It seems like a lot of people are clicking on the wrong Twitter thread ("not clear"/"confusing" when the tweets are quite direct), so posting all of them in image version might be useful?I have no sympathy for this James guy[...]
However, I wish those people were more clear on what exactly he did.
Because it's quite confusing, to the point that at first I thought he did sexual harassment, then I realized he did just "harassment", but I'm not sure of which kind.[...]
Care to elaborate? I´m genuinely interested in what you mean by that...
Oh so that's where that weird "I am a god. Worship me" vibe was coming from. Good to know.
The only difference between TB and a leader is that a leader would take responsibility for their actions instead of conveniently ignoring that every time they complained about those SJWs that their followers go harass them. Oh but I guess he was Deeply Concerned about demonstrably false claims about journalists so that makes it okay.
My personal opinion is generally biased against vocal male feminists, I find them more often than not predators in hide, and this may be the case with James. But this is definitely a questionable opinion and I understand many won't agree with me.
I hate that this is happening, but reading through the thread, can someone just explicitly say what has happened? What exactly went wrong? Is James leaving because he was involved or because he doesn't condone what happened?
Why are all Berserk avatars like this...
As the boss he has power over her, so he should have resigned after the relationship ended, so the woman would have the freedom to keep working, or leave herself.
I've not read the entire thread however I just saw this comment.
Now, just leaving this particular situation and being more general, there's 2 people in a relationship and both ought to be aware of the pitfalls of a workplace romance. To suggest that any onus to leave the firm because the relationship has ended should lie with the male, or the more senior member of staff, is a bit silly. If necessary, that onus to leave ought to be shared equally. Just because the more senior worker is male doesn't mean he ought to resign his managerial seat.
Ninja edit: Again, not looking to cause beef as I've not read all of the thread, however I just saw what to me was a bit of an inflammatory comment and wanted to post a reply.
Every time I saw him speak on video he made my skin crawl. I just assumed he was awkward.James, I feel, long presented himself as 'charming' in a very deliberate, at times odd fashion. It felt a bit odd, but hey, maybe it was just him. More than a few times there were 'jokes' about how everybody liked him, and other staff were kinda left to the side. Now I can't help but wonder if there was a more underlying issue with regards to how he feels he must be perceived by others. Ie, not exactly willing to accept that someone - especially not his now ex-girlfriend - might somehow not like him. Because he's James Portnow, and surely, everybody likes James Portnow.
Perhaps I'm reading too much into it. Either way, wary now.
Edit:
Okay so I'm not the only one who noticed it.