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Cyberpunk 2077 — Our Commitment to Quality (after lying for years)
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Yep that on it's own is bad enough but when you consider that they only let reviewers use PC footage it goes hand in hand with showing that they knew there were issues and tried to hide it
That's...really hard to believe when the retail version has bug every 5 minutes and has utterly poor performance even at glance.
They are shifting the blame to their QA in their apology video. Class act.
No way they did not catch that.
Except for being Transphobic dickheads and doubling down on it.
Completed the game last week.
The main mission and "main" side missions are pretty good. The world is empty, factions don't really matter, might as well be called "bad guy group 1, bad guy group 2", there is no AI whatsoever, your logs are a complete mess, the clothing system is fucked. I found that there is really nothing RPG about this besides putting numbers into either swords or guns.
I don't think that the game can be fixed with patches and a next gen update unless they significantly address the open world aspect. Driving around is cool, the city is very detailed, but as soon as you interact with something in a car the illusion breaks. Also cars don't pull over when you're in a cop car and put on your sirens.
What you have is a decent story, shoved inside an empty shell. Nothing in this roadmap suggests the empty shell part can be fixed.
My friend got PS4 refund this morning and he said he didn't have to send the game back. Considering we're in height of a pandemic if they asked you to go to the post office to go send them back the game I'd tell them to fuck off.
The main mission and "main" side missions are pretty good. The world is empty, factions don't really matter, might as well be called "bad guy group 1, bad guy group 2", there is no AI whatsoever, your logs are a complete mess, the clothing system is fucked. I found that there is really nothing RPG about this besides putting numbers into either swords or guns.
I don't think that the game can be fixed with patches and a next gen update unless they significantly address the open world aspect. Driving around is cool, the city is very detailed, but as soon as you interact with something in a car the illusion breaks. Also cars don't pull over when you're in a cop car and put on your sirens.
What you have is a decent story, shoved inside an empty shell. Nothing in this roadmap suggests the empty shell part can be fixed.
My friend got PS4 refund this morning and he said he didn't have to send the game back. Considering we're in height of a pandemic if they asked you to go to the post office to go send them back the game I'd tell them to fuck off.
Heh, they changed this Q&A (changes formatted below):
Because obviously they saw many issues already (and saying otherwise is pretty insulting to their QA team)
Because obviously they saw many issues already (and saying otherwise is pretty insulting to their QA team)
they should just come out and say it how it is "the QA team picked those issues up but didnt get to fix them before our launch date because we rushed this game out" and stopped talking like their QA didnt see all those stuff.
Clearly you did since you actually went through my post history and you weren't even involved in the conversation
Everything Hello Games and CDPR will say from now on will be taken with a huge grain of salt. Their credibility is damaged for years.
Except Hello Games actually redeemed themselves and delivered on their promises and even added more features to the game than was promised.
Hello Games have earned back more respect than they ever did in the first place, while not charging for it. This CDPR shit is on a different level to them.
Most will still be skeptical for their next game announcement unless they show real game footage from the get-go like Nintendo usually does and not CG trailers or vertical slice "demos".
Nonsense.
Gamers can and will believe any old shit and preorder digitial games with unknown quality. Nobody ever seems to learn, so why would they learn in the next few years?
Here was my approach:
1. Cyberpunk looks interesting, I wonder if it will be good?
2. Waits for release
3. Sees it is shit
4. Doesn't buy it
It isn't fucking hard guys, but here we are time and time again.
Well the agreement was to receive a refund if you were to agree to send the game back to them. I mean the CE was quite pricey and to just give the money back like that is kind of odd? They never turned around and said I don't need to send it back. As far as I'm aware I still need to send it back to them.
this they should just cancel PS4 and Xbox comment is irritating and shows how little people on this forum forget companies are businesses. You can't just cancel a game with a massive instal base of users you won't recoup your budget. It doesn't work that way you can't just turn around and remove it especially how small the ps5 and xboxX series are available to customers even though PC is main target audience.
Especially when its a digital release in the case of the PC version. What is there to honestly lose by waiting? The game isn't going anywhere. This isn't Ring Fit Adventure.
hindsight is 20/20 and all that but lets not pretend CDPR wouldnt have cancelled the ps4/xb1 versions in a heartbeat if they knew what would have happened
They're still dishonest as fuck about the issues they faced when bringing the game to last-gen consoles. If you couldn't make it work - despite your game being nothing special even on PC - you didn't have to sell the game for last-gen consoles. You could've just cancelled it and released on PS5/XSX. But they didn't because they're a scummy company that knew they didn't have to do much for their cult to buy the game. They're only admitting guilt because the backlash was much bigger than they had expected.
And that "roadmap" is literally "Shit will come some time this year I guess". Pathetic.
And that "roadmap" is literally "Shit will come some time this year I guess". Pathetic.
That and it pretty much says "fuck everyone who can't afford PCs or next-gen consoles; they deserve to get nothing because CDPR wanted to make a new Crysis more than they wanted to make a game that can work on all platforms."
Such statements are just representative of the whole elitist attitude behind stuff like the mass-screaming over "cross-gen," or the dogmatic aversion so many have to 30fps. It's especially bad because those feelings are never reciprocated in instances where the version for more privileged people is worse than the one for 'the poors'; nobody was saying Warner Bros. should have cancelled Arkham Knight's PC port to focus on consoles only, or complaining that DLC might be affected because of the PC being a "potato platform."
Like to so many it's as if console players didn't pay the exact same $60 for this game that PC (and to a lesser extent next-gen) owners did. They're somehow less deserving of a proper working product because they dared to not have hardware that is prohibitively expensive for the vast majority of people.
They really think they have a GTA with endless replayability in their hands.
GTA has a living breathing world with random, complex, unpredictable AI interactions that haven't aged even after 8 years, CP2077 is an on-rails story driven game with an empty open world to fill the gaps...
So I have only just decided to launch this game to see how bad of a dumpster fire it is, but I did not know that the AI was non-existent? Is that on PC as well or is it a console issue due to this (typical) CDPR focus on PC first for big wows? I skimmed the video and it was hilariously vague/empty promises, using blatant scapegoating to avoid the clear management issues that resulted in staff crunching deadly hours and project restarts that caused mismatched game designs.
I didn't say that... I'm saying this *is* how a proper roadmap looks like. Better they do not rush anymore too.
I mean, nice of you to assume they give a shit about that. :D
funny thing is i do my gaming on a base xbox one console,i rather have nothing than a broken mess of a game that the hardware cant handle so the publisher/shareholders make money off my back
That and Cyberpunk won't have online for a while now. GTAV, whilst still a game that's fun to go back to even today, would not have been nearly as big if GTA: Online hadn't released so soon after launch and been so endearing to so many people. Meanwhile Cyberpunk's online will most definitely not be here until 2022 at the earliest, and that's if it even gets released at all.
Cyberpunk's AI is non-existant on every platform. Fundamentally the game is the exact same on PC as it is on console; it just runs better there (if you have the hardware) and looks better as well (again, if you have the hardware for it).
I mean you didn't have to buy the game, and if you haven't bought it then those who did still deserve to have a game that works properly.
That and this game was always advertised as a console and PC game; it's been that way since "old-gen," consoles were even out. Cancelling it on console just because CDPR's priorities are fucked doesn't remove those years of having the game be hyped up as something that was going to release on PS4 and Xbox One.
Funny you say that, cause when I try to explore the world in GTAV I see a building and is completely dead unless you are on a mission to do something on it. Instead in CP you can find an old house with NPCs guarding it, a security room, notes, rooms with lots of details, things to hack, multiple ways to enter it and you might not even be on a mission to do something there. In GTA you would only be able to enter this house from one scripted point and that's only if you are on an active mission, otherwise the door might just be closed. Yes the AI is dead in CP, but there's also an interesting story in every corner of the world and the mission design of GTA is completely dated with the choices you can make to approach them tbh.
I'd like to see this comparisons also show how interactive the objects are when you are in the middle of a shooting, you can try to see how many things are static in GTA where in CP they break, fall, etc.. Of course the game is full of problems, but I also think it's dishonest to not mention the things it does good when comparing these games.
You are correct here, but I think it's a bit of a flawed comparison considering the context in which it's been made. Whilst Cyberpunk may have a lot more in terms of lore, and is almost undoubtedly more detailed graphics-wise, those are simply not as important as GTA's focus on sandbox gameplay. In Cyberpunk there are very few ways to create your own gameplay once you've done what the game has to offer you whereas GTA has a whole bunch of dynamic systems and extra-curricular activates to mess around with that are completely separated from Rockstar's own pre-scripted missions.
I have a question, which is not entirely clear to me.
When Witcher 3 came out, was it as broken and buggy as CP2077? Was it improved with the patches they incorporated?
When Witcher 3 came out, was it as broken and buggy as CP2077? Was it improved with the patches they incorporated?
Sean Murray/Hello Games went on radio silence until they had something to show. Arguably a luxury that CDPR doesn't have as a public company of its size.
TW3 was not this broken (although they had to patch in a new movement mode) but it is important to remember that the RPG elements were ahead of anything else on the market at the time. So a lot was forgiven because of what they were able to deliver on their vision. CP2077 failed to wow folks so the warts are more apparent.
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I mean, I don't buy this either. Just one tester playing the game for one hour could have told you this thing ain't close to be ready to be shipped.
