I worded it badly.
GSD as mentioned in the OP, also known as game sales data, has the numbers from the publishers.
Chris Dring has access to the sale numbers of the publishers per GSD.
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Chris Dring- In Europe Sparking Zero did 140% better than FighterZ, SH2 (78%PS5/22%PC) did better than Calisto & AW2 but less than Dead Space R + more
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I worded it badly.
GSD as mentioned in the OP, also known as game sales data, has the numbers from the publishers.
Chris Dring has access to the sale numbers of the publishers per GSD.
For whatever it's worth, Remedy themselves have painted Alan Wake 2 as a bigger success than internet discourse has. Control was considered a hit for them but it still took it a while to break into profit, and Alan Wake 2 sold faster than Control at launch. Much of Control's success was from having long legs and continuing to sell over a five year period, and Alan Wake 2 is on the same trajectory. So it having modest sales in the first year is not the whole story.
I think the next game will do better, Silent Hill as a franchise isn't a big name on PC the way it was on Playstation. It will take a couple of releases to build a big audience.
I'd also throw in that it's entirely possible that DS actually did do well for them, but we need to look at what they're working on now as to a reason that DS2R or a new entry isn't in development. They're currently working on an Iron Man game as well as collaborating on the next Battlefield. Those are going to be expected to do massive numbers. So, DS would've had to put up such numbers where EA thinks it's justified that they're working on another game in that series rather than those other games.
With Silent Hill we know that Konami are all in on it. They have two more new entries planned already. And SH2R is the fastest selling entry in the series.
This is just Europe. Even if the US split is similar, sales in Asian territories probably help make up the gap significantly.
Good to hear that they all did well, it's a pretty huge variety of games, so I guess it shouldn't be too surprising, but hell of a packed week, was worried some would get lost in the shuffle.
As it's a bit on topic I think Dead Space suffers most from EA just thinking Motive are better used helping DICE/Respawn/Etc, so kind of a doomed from the start deal and no real way to break that sort of thinking at the big publishers, but very sad they binned the series again.
As it's a bit on topic I think Dead Space suffers most from EA just thinking Motive are better used helping DICE/Respawn/Etc, so kind of a doomed from the start deal and no real way to break that sort of thinking at the big publishers, but very sad they binned the series again.
You have to wonder if DSR was actually profitable, but EA was never down for a sequel right away unless it was a breakout hit.
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We all know PC audiences are purists and they already had their SH2 fill with the Enhanced Edition.
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Dead Space R was honestly a fantastic game. One of the most enjoyable 1:1 remakes that I've played and the team did a great job. Dead Space 2 R would have been an all-timer for me had it been green lit, and it's pretty tragic that it's been shelved.
SH2 will probably end up with 2-3m sales by the end of next year which is very good for a 'horror' title not called Resident Evil.
SH2 will probably end up with 2-3m sales by the end of next year which is very good for a 'horror' title not called Resident Evil.
What disinterest ?
Game seems to have sold between 300 to 400k on PC, making the split between 30 to 40% of the sales.
I'm still so conditioned to seeing Dring primarily talk about UK sales but yes, those were the UK splits so not as applicable.
Also FWIW Germany is not in the EU GSD numbers either, so it wouldn't give PC a boost in these data either way
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Weirdly enough, Silent Hill 4 is actually available on PC through GOG. Sadly though, if a PC game isn't on Steam, it may as well not be on PC at all to most players.
Surprised at the PC stats for SH2R
Does it demand a particularly high end rig compared to other AAA?
Or are those % in line with other AAA for the same regions?
Does it demand a particularly high end rig compared to other AAA?
Or are those % in line with other AAA for the same regions?
Lack of physical until now and particularly no Steam will have dented sales
Also, there's no reason why Motive couldn't return to Dead Space once they're more available.
Maybe. Would like to know the splits for other horror single player games to have s better understanding of the situation
Because SH2 developed in Poland costs less than Dead Space Remake developed in Canada. I know math is hard...
Wasn't the rumor/leak that there never was a DS2 remake planned? Motive had pitched a new game in the universe (DS4?).
But yeah, between a Marvel game and Battlefield, DS wasn't going to be the more lucratpath forward once the sales were tallied up. Meanwhile, as others have said, Konami is going all in on SH.
But yeah, between a Marvel game and Battlefield, DS wasn't going to be the more lucratpath forward once the sales were tallied up. Meanwhile, as others have said, Konami is going all in on SH.
Game sales (both retail and digital) are included from Germany in GSD data. Console hw data is what is missing from Germany in GSD data. When it comes to game sales GSD includes all major markets from Europe in their digital data and most for retail data (so PC actually benefits compared to consoles from the lack of retail coverage GSD has in some smaller european markets)
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Expected SH2 split after seeing how the game was doing on PS Store compared to Steam. And PS also has significant physical sales unike PC.
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This has not been true years. Most of their money has come from digital/games.
This is EA. The greediest of all the publishers. They want 8 figure sale number to even greenlight a sequel to games.
Literally every publisher in the AAA space making AAA games operates just like EA but apparently EA is the greedy one? 🤣 🤣 🤣
SH2 has over 20.000 Reviews on Steam ( https://steamdb.info/app/2124490/charts/ ) from people who used keys + direct purchases, there is a less than 0% chance it sold 200k-250k copies or whatnot, so whatever that ratio is, it obviously only applies to one region.
As comparison, the Dead Space remake has 2x as many reviews as SH2 has - in almost 2 years compared to 2 weeks. So the game is doing well on Steam clearly.
The game would have an unheard of 10:1x sales to reviews ratio, when most games sit at 40-50:1x. It will likely sit at 400k+ copies right now and even that is accounting for very high review activity, even for a launch period where people are more likely to review than they are later on.
As comparison, on PSN the game has 12.000 Reviews. The global sales ratio is likely close to 50-50, or 40-60ish due to asia.
As comparison, the Dead Space remake has 2x as many reviews as SH2 has - in almost 2 years compared to 2 weeks. So the game is doing well on Steam clearly.
The game would have an unheard of 10:1x sales to reviews ratio, when most games sit at 40-50:1x. It will likely sit at 400k+ copies right now and even that is accounting for very high review activity, even for a launch period where people are more likely to review than they are later on.
As comparison, on PSN the game has 12.000 Reviews. The global sales ratio is likely close to 50-50, or 40-60ish due to asia.
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Steam players tend to leave more reviews than PSN ratings. They aren't apples to apples with Steam reviews, and 12k would likely correspond to a number a lot higher than 400k + unless the ratings system is being mashed by a fanbase the way, say, Stellar Blade was.
EDIT: I think I came off a bit too strong in my original post, this is a more accurate version of my point so my bad on that Heiko :)
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Zero chance its doing as well as DD2 there. I imagine he meant to bring up some other game lol, although its fairing favorability to Reload and LaD so clearly there's no actual issue or anything saleswise.
Sure, but still no game has a 10x1 sales to review ratio. You could even tell SH2 isnt doing amazing in Europe specifically on Steam because it is ranking much lower in the local stores compared to steam as a whole. In Germany it was in the Top 10 Topsellers for like 2 days. (Steam Topsellers are much more volatile due to indie popularity, MMOs and aggressive sales)
Right now SH2 is 30th Topseller on steam as a whole, in Germany it is 70th, in France 58th, in the US 18th. For some reason some european countries are buying the game on PS instead of PC. But the total ratio will deffo not apply globally. Unless the game has sold a few 100k more than 1 Mio by now, which could be the case of course. They certainly would deserve it for the game.
Edit: And no problem! With 400k I meant PC btw, not PS5, PS5 would be higher. Thats based on Reviews tho, since player numbers are hard to evaluate on a psychological horror SP game. I would guess many people cant even play more than 1 hour at a time since its so stressful compared to RE4 etc.
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