Chris Dring- In Europe Sparking Zero did 140% better than FighterZ, SH2 (78%PS5/22%PC) did better than Calisto & AW2 but less than Dead Space R + more

Smitch · 2024-10-21T11:35:00-0400

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Every new game last week did well.
The game that did extremely well is Sparking Zero; it was a huge hit across Europe (GSD) launch sales are up 140% compared to the fastest-selling Dragon Ball game, which was FighterZ.
For SH2 in Europe: 78% of sales are on PS5 and 22% on PC.
SH2 easily outperformed Calisto Protocol and AW2, but the Dead Space remake did a little better than the SH2 remake in Europe.
Broadly speaking, SH2 sold 1 million worldwide first, so that's great.
Metaphor had a really decent launch; across Europe, it's actually pretty close to what DD2 did and is ahead of other JRPGs like Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth and P3R, but it is not as big as what P5R did.
Undisputed is the fourth biggest sports game launch in Europe this year; worldwide, it's probably ahead of F1.

Super · 2024-10-21T11:38:53-0400

That's a much bigger split for Silent Hill 2 than I expected in Europe.

Vamer · 2024-10-21T11:44:00-0400

Silent Hill 2 is phenomenal. I hope it can sell at least 3 million copies ltd.

MarcosBrXD · 2024-10-21T11:44:28-0400

And people say is a 50/50 lol

Scherzo · 2024-10-21T11:47:15-0400

I mean I expect SH2 to have legs because the game basically had anti-hype up until August of this year.

Chackan · 2024-10-21T11:49:51-0400

Did not expect that split on SH2

AEF1907 · 2024-10-21T11:51:13-0400

Hell yeah SH2

Derbel McDillet · 2024-10-21T11:51:20-0400

FIGHT FOREVER!

St. Elmo's Fire · 2024-10-21T11:52:12-0400

Smitch said:
SH2 easily outperformed Calisto Protocol and AW2, but the Dead Space remake did a little better than the SH2 remake in Europe.

EA give me the Dead Space 2 remake you cowards!

Angie · 2024-10-21T11:52:22-0400

Genesius · 2024-10-21T11:53:35-0400

And yet Konami considers the SH2 remake a success.

Another L for EA. Dead Space deserves better.

Agni Kai · 2024-10-21T11:54:52-0400

Dragon Ball fucks.

Plague-Doctor · 2024-10-21T11:55:01-0400

MarcosBrXD said:
And people say is a 50/50 lol

Chackan said:
Did not expect that split on SH2

The splits for RE4 Remake were 65% PS5 and 15% PC. Split the 20% from Xbox into an extra 10% for each platform and its pretty consistent. RE7 had a similar split as well. RE and Silent Hill are both survival horror franchises that are very strongly associated with the Playstation brand. These splits were not too surprising

CognitiveAtrophy · 2024-10-21T11:55:50-0400

The split makes sense. It has relatively high spec requirements, and most people just don't own rigs capable of running it (at least better than it's console counterpart).

Chackan · 2024-10-21T11:56:24-0400

Plague-Doctor said:
The splits for RE4 Remake were 65% PS5 and 15% PC. Split the 20% from Xbox into an extra 10% for each platform and its pretty consistent. RE7 had a similar split as well. RE and Silent Hill are both survival horror franchises that are very strongly associated with the Playstation brand. These splits were not too surprising

Well, I'm disappointed with my PC brothers. SH2R deserves many more sales!

Smitch · 2024-10-21T11:57:16-0400

Plague-Doctor said:
The splits for RE4 Remake were 65% PS5 and 15% PC. Split the 20% from Xbox into an extra 10% for each platform and its pretty consistent. RE7 had a similar split as well. RE and Silent Hill are both survival horror franchises that are very strongly associated with the Playstation brand. These splits were not too surprising

That RE4 remake split was for UK not Europe

SilverX · 2024-10-21T11:59:22-0400

Currently addicted to Silent Hill 2 remake, tore me away from DBSZ lol. Phenomenal game and couldnt ask for a better Halloween experience

Red Kong XIX · 2024-10-21T12:01:45-0400

amazing numbers for sparking, surprised by the huge split difference for sh2

Ahti · 2024-10-21T12:03:05-0400

Dead Space 2 Remake needs to happen.

Theiea · 2024-10-21T12:04:47-0400

How does he get PC sales numbers?

modiz · 2024-10-21T12:06:48-0400

The disinterest from PC players for SH2 is really shocking.

Sir Lucan · 2024-10-21T12:07:01-0400

Konami has never really cared about PC, so that split is not really surprising. Even Short Message was PS5 exclusive. And you can't play 1-4 on PC without emulation AFAIK.

EagleClaw · 2024-10-21T12:07:50-0400

Theiea said:
How does he get PC sales numbers?

From GSD, which are the publishers of the game.

EDIT:
Because i worded it badly.
GSD as mentioned in the OP, also known as game sales data, has the numbers from the publishers.
Chris Dring as access to the sale numbers of the publishers per GSD.

Duxxy3 · 2024-10-21T12:07:57-0400

Dead Space Remake did that well and EA still shelved the series?

Seriously?

TheBlackSwordsman · 2024-10-21T12:09:13-0400

So Silent Hill 2 Remake is selling less than Dead Space Remake, the game that apparently didn't sell enough for EA to make another one? Is this a good or a bad thing?

Ara63 · 2024-10-21T12:09:55-0400

Smitch said:
Undisputed is the fourth biggest sports game launch in Europe this year; worldwide, it's probably ahead of F1.

That is amazing for Undisputed. F1 sells a ton, like close to Gran Turismo/Forza Motorsport numbers.

Mezoly · 2024-10-21T12:10:22-0400

TheBlackSwordsman said:
So Silent Hill 2 Remake is selling less than Dead Space Remake, the game that apparently didn't sell enough for EA to make another one? Is this a good or a bad thing?

EA is American company with higher costs. Bloober is Polish and Konami in Japan both lower costs. That's why you see Sega happy with 1m sales.

Scherzo · 2024-10-21T12:13:12-0400

Genesius said:
And yet Konami considers the SH2 remake a success.

Another L for EA. Dead Space deserves better.

Where'd we here that from Konami? I know Bloober put a thing out.

Theiea · 2024-10-21T12:13:14-0400

EagleClaw said:
From GSD, which are the publishers of the game.

Ah, excellent.

Thanks.

kambaybolongo · 2024-10-21T12:14:47-0400

PC gaming dead

SilverX · 2024-10-21T12:14:54-0400

TheBlackSwordsman said:
So Silent Hill 2 Remake is selling less than Dead Space Remake, the game that apparently didn't sell enough for EA to make another one? Is this a good or a bad thing?

1. Console exclusivity means they had money exchanged upfront beyond revenue from sales
2. It sold nearly as well on two platforms vs. a game with three at this recorded point
3. Steeper competition launching in a packed October vs. January

But we can expect it to perform better than Dead Space remake did LTD

Hanzo · 2024-10-21T12:15:19-0400

Good numbers for silent hill considering it's not on xb (yeah, xb is doing bad in Europe, but still) when compared to AW2 , and doing close to Dead Space is good
Surprised at the split vs PC. Seems some genres really favour consoles and others are more favorable to PC. Sony is probably monitoring those trends closely to choose what and when to port first party games

Genesius · 2024-10-21T12:16:43-0400

Scherzo said:
Where'd we here that from Konami? I know Bloober put a thing out.

ItsBradazHD said:
Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc. is pleased to announce that the cumulative worldwide shipments* of the psychological horror SILENT HILL 2 (PlayStation®5, Steam®), which was released on 8 October, have surpassed one million units.

Press Release: https://www.konami.com/games/corporate/ja/news/topics/20241017sh/

Konami PR Tweet: https://twitter.com/Konami_PR_IR/status/1846699552193368181

Naha- · 2024-10-21T12:16:48-0400

I will never forgive EA for reviving Dead Space with a fantastic remake to just shelve the series again. I will never give them money again.

Good sales for SH2. I really want a remake for 1 or 4.

Funkelpop · 2024-10-21T12:17:10-0400

Every new game last week did well.

Faiyaz · 2024-10-21T12:17:30-0400

Sparking Zero on its way to blow past 10-15 million.

Fudgepuppy · 2024-10-21T12:18:02-0400

Mezoly said:
EA is American company with higher costs. Bloober is Polish and Konami in Japan both lower costs. That's why you see Sega happy with 1m sales.

Dead Space was made in about 18 months though, where EA Motive isn't the biggest studio.

AFAIK, DE:R wasn't a bomb, it did break even, but not enough for EA to think it was worth continuing.

Which is bullshit considering the second one could probably be made way more efficiently with the systems and engine already made.

Toriko · 2024-10-21T12:27:16-0400

TheBlackSwordsman said:
So Silent Hill 2 Remake is selling less than Dead Space Remake, the game that apparently didn't sell enough for EA to make another one? Is this a good or a bad thing?

The expectations and costs for these projects may be very different.

DamageEX2 · 2024-10-21T12:30:27-0400

Surprises me that the ratio for the PC version its not big, it was a game that did well on Steam before the release

DeejayDoom · 2024-10-21T12:38:06-0400

EagleClaw said:
From GSD, which are the publishers of the game.

GSD is a chart data site, not the publisher of anything.

-Le Monde- · 2024-10-21T12:40:19-0400

Damn!!' SH2 gap is insane.

Also the Goat whooped fighterz. Can't wait for the dlc and more stories/what ifs

EagleClaw · 2024-10-21T12:40:49-0400

DeejayDoom said:
GSD is a chart data site, not the publisher of anything.

That is what i meant to say, but surely baddly worded.
The numbers are from the publishers out of game sales data.

Red Kong XIX · 2024-10-21T12:41:02-0400

and yeah, EA not making Dead Space 2 remake is criminal

Mr Evil 37 · 2024-10-21T12:45:52-0400

Fudgepuppy said:
Dead Space was made in about 18 months though, where EA Motive isn't the biggest studio.

It wasn't quite that short. Squadrons released October 2020 and Dead Space released January 2023. It was just over two years (maybe longer if DS was in pre-production before Squadrons shipped).

If anything, the short dev time for DS remake makes it more likely that Motive will return to it after Iron Man, especially with EA moving away from licensed games.

Ara63 · 2024-10-21T12:45:54-0400

Hanzo said:
Good numbers for silent hill considering it's not on xb (yeah, xb is doing bad in Europe, but still) when compared to AW2 , and doing close to Dead Space is good
Surprised at the split vs PC. Seems some genres really favour consoles and others are more favorable to PC. Sony is probably monitoring those trends closely to choose what and when to port first party games

Horror is actually a PC-favouring genre if anything, it's a streamer staple.

I think it's just Silent Hill has strong PS IP ties. Same reason that Crash 4 has more PS-leaning splits vs Switch than you'd expect for a mascot platformer.

Devil · 2024-10-21T12:45:55-0400

I know this is pretty much a snob take, but I despise the gameplay of the Tenkaichi/Sparking series compared to a good ass fighting game like FighterZ and hate the fact that the former is so much more lucrative than the latter.

Still wish everyone who enjoys this type of game fun with it though, honestly. But this spells doom for my dream of an actually good AND fanservicey One Piece fighting game comparable to FighterZ.

pswii60 · 2024-10-21T12:46:03-0400

Plague-Doctor said:
The splits for RE4 Remake were 65% PS5 and 15% PC. Split the 20% from Xbox into an extra 10% for each platform and its pretty consistent. RE7 had a similar split as well. RE and Silent Hill are both survival horror franchises that are very strongly associated with the Playstation brand. These splits were not too surprising

Those splits were UK not EU. But you're right. Globally the picture will be a little closer, when you consider more PC-centric markets. But still, only Germany and Eastern European countries lean PC in Europe, and they won't have the same attachment to these franchises.

EagleClaw said:
From GSD, which are the publishers of the game.

Who?

DeejayDoom · 2024-10-21T12:47:35-0400

Did people skip the part that this is only talking about Europe, and the audio says Silent Hill sales in the EU are like 1/5 of the global total?

Spazgadget · 2024-10-21T12:48:54-0400

St. Elmo's Fire said:
EA give me the Dead Space 2 remake you cowards!

I second this!
Also it still befuddles me how soft Alan Wake 2's sales were. It's such a great video game - is it just that no one played the franchise since it was an exclusive on 360 when it launched? Y'all are missing out!
(also good job Silent Hill and Bloober. You did good!)

BloodHound · 2024-10-21T12:49:18-0400

Imagine comparing EA with Konamis costs and expectations.

EA is in the AAA home run business. ROI is everything to determine future resourcing.

Konami's in the pachinko business with AAA as a side hustle. We have no clue what their plans are going forward.

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