Authorities say 48 people were shot in Chicago over the weekend, with eight fatalities.
Fucking awful.
Authorities say 48 people were shot in Chicago over the weekend, with eight fatalities.
You can believe no one should have firearms or that they should even take them away (I do) while still acknowledging that mass shootings are a different type of crime than the reason why the crime rate in parts of some cities is very high.
Ok? So that makes it ok to shit on people in a thread? You were talking to someone who agrees its a huge problem and never said otherwise. They were just responding to that post referencing the other thread, and they were right that statistically the crime and murder rate is down.
I didn't shit on anyone. Shit keeps happening almost every damn day and imo the response shouldn't be, well statistically you're fine if youre not on the Southside of Chicago. Like what?
Like also what the fuck is fine? 40k people dying a year from guns is fine?
The response shouldn't be oh well it's Englewood.
What does that have to do with presenting America as a safe country in terms of gun violence?oh jesus, cut this shit out. this wasn't fucking downtown or anywhere near it. do you know anything about chicago?
oh jesus, cut this shit out. this wasn't fucking downtown or anywhere near it. do you know anything about chicago?
I don't have anything else really to add but thank you. This was all I was trying to get at.Is it stated if they were purposely targeted or was this a case of two civilians being caught in the crossfire?
Also, why do people have a hard on for making America sound like a war zone on ERA? Do people seriously not understand how large America is and how every state is literally unlike each other?
We can't do anything to fix it though /s
What does that have to do with presenting America as a safe country in terms of gun violence?
There are different (numerous) types of gun violence. Painting them all as the same broad stroke just makes the conversation more muddied, not less, even if your intention is good here. I don't think anyone really disagrees with you that gun violence is a huge problem and we need more gun control now.What does that have to do with presenting America as a safe country in terms of gun violence?
So? They're going to Vegas, the location of the largest mass shooting in US history. You think gun violence is an isolated problem?Because a first time visitor to the US isn't going to fucking Englewood, genius!
I'm literally fucking crying reading this. What fucking injustice. I hate everything.
Whether it's safe to visit America as a tourist is a question of fact. The only matter of opinion in that question is what constitutes "safe". America has a ton of issues, but gun violence incidents like this aren't factually serious safety risks for a tourist, even if you assume crime is evenly distributed across the country or per capita (it's not). The safety of a tourist in any location is a question of facts, statistics, and the behaviour of the tourist, and statistically as long as the tourist isn't visiting Engelwood or anywhere else that has a disproportionate amount of violence they're probably safe. I'd be more concerned about encountering a serious medical issue while visiting and having to go to a hospital, because that could easily ruin your life. As an American, I worry about encountering a medical issue all the time.
Imagine being such a pathetic piece of shit that you'd continue to defend your right to own firearms as a hobby while women and children are murdered everyday. Anyone that continues to "well, actually" about this shit can go fuck themselves.
Not to drag yet another thread into this topic, but have you seen the Tarantino/Bruce Lee thread? Can we stop trying to act like this place is better than anywhere else on the Internet? That illusion was shattered ages ago.
I had to watch the video. Tragic.
I live in Uptown Chicago and do Uber throughout the city on my off time. I had an Uber Eats delivery out around there without knowing how dangerous it was and the lady I was delivering scolded me because she said what I did wasn't safe.
I pulled up with my E-lights on to park and just sat there for a while waiting for her until I got out to deliver the food because I wasn't sure where she was. But she was actually across the street and didn't realize it was me and called me over when I got out the car. She told me it was her fault for not realizing it was me but warned me when I'm delivering around the area to never wait more than a minute and if something feels off then just drop the order and drive off with the food.
She talked to me for like 5 minutes straight and lectured me about how my life isn't worth a good delivery. The look in her eyes almost made me cry because it felt she had lost someone tragically before. And as someone who is on some parts of South Side often, it really does look like a 3rd world country like the rapper in the video described. Completely neglected.
RIP to those two women.
This is the apathetic response we always get.I didn't shit on anyone. Shit keeps happening almost every damn day and imo the response shouldn't be, well statistically you're fine if youre not on the Southside of Chicago. Like what?
Like also what the fuck is fine? 40k people dying a year from guns is fine?
The response shouldn't be oh well it's Englewood.
All i can say is stay safe man. That lady is right and you should consider her words if you can afford it.
This is the apathetic response we always get.
Anyone that has some actual respect and dignity towards humanity would not see things this way, but I can confirm that lots of people don't view the residents of South Side Chicago as equals.
So yeah, America is safe, if you can afford it. Even then, guns being as readily available as they are makes the US less safe than most other developed countries imo.
For sure. I appreciated her words.
they say the best measure of a country is the living conditions of its most marginalised peopleFamed tourist destination, Englewood, Chicago.
Because the single most broken neighborhood in all of America is representative of the country as a whole.
Nobody says that though.Holy shit this is so horrible. Truly saddening
they say the best measure of a country is the living conditions of its most marginalised people
Or maybe they just havent said it to you
In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons),[5][6] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).[7] These deaths included 21,175 suicides,[7] 11,208 homicides,[8] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[7] The ownership and control of guns are among the most widely debated issues in the country.
I wonder why nothing was done between 2009-2011 when there was a democratic majority in the house and senate, and had a democratic president?Can't wait till Trump gets thrown out of office and we flip the Senate, hopefully Warren or Sanders will propose some actual gun control. A teen shouldn't be able to buy a fucking military grade weapon anywhere just cause they turned 18.
I. Am. LIVID.Chicago Police Department spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said in a statement that the murders were under investigation, and that investigators "have no evidence that we can point to that suggests the women were the intended targets".
"We also have no evidence to the contrary," he added.
Personally I said anywhere a tourist would want to go is safe.
These women were killed in southside chicago.
Because a first time visitor to the US isn't going to fucking Englewood, genius!
Famed tourist destination, Englewood, Chicago.
Because the single most broken neighborhood in all of America is representative of the country as a whole.
Please read the article.haven't read the article yet but have they caught the gunmen and determine the motivation behind it?
Start of a Solution:ban guns, buyback program for all guns and ammunition, life sentence for anyone who has one, take out that part of the amendment to bear arms.