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Characters that everyone knows are gay, but the creator never confirmed they are.
- Thread starter CenturionNami
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I think it was actually confirmed many years later, but Tony from Earthbound, Jeff's loyal and slightly fussy friend from boarding school. He's a minor character and only appears a few times, but he seems to be crushing on Jeff pretty hard. He's also utterly devoted to his friend, to the point where he is willing to help Jeff pack a few things and jump the school fence in the middle of the night, on the eve of Tony's birthday, without needing to know why. ;_;
Hardly. Some may be, but there are many examples that are all but confirmed -- where, if the characters in question were opposite sex, there would be zero question (see: Ike/Soren; Fang/Vanille; etc).
Of course, if there's even the slightest ambiguity to be read in a homosexual relationship, there will inevitably be heterosexual people who loudly attempt to decry its existence, whether because the homosexuality conflicts with their chosen ship, or because they actively want to stifle queer voices, or because "muh just friends."
Ike x Soren is still denied by people to this day, despite ample evidence, including official book Word of God that "their hearts joined together as one." So basically, there doesn't even need to be ambiguity for denial; two male characters could literally exchange 'I love yous' while sucking each other off, and there'd be people ready with "they were just experimenting, meanwhile such-and-such loves X character they've barely interacted with."
If you play as a male Warrior of Light in Final Fantasy XIV, Alphinaud and Haurchefant are extremely obviously bi, at the very least. The Crystal Exarch too. Other characters tease Alphinaud about it constantly, specifically. I imagine some of the female NPCs give off the same impression when playing as a female MC.
FFXV is odd in that every member of the main cast can be shipped with each other without there being much to contradict it. It's partly down to their commitment to each other being way stronger than most male bonds in video games, and also because Luna/Noctis is terribly written. Noctis has better on-screen chemistry with literally everyone else, from Dino to Araena.
Also Atlus are cowards and will basically never confirm any of their Persona characters to be gay outside of making cheap allusions or gags, including Kanji.
FFXV is odd in that every member of the main cast can be shipped with each other without there being much to contradict it. It's partly down to their commitment to each other being way stronger than most male bonds in video games, and also because Luna/Noctis is terribly written. Noctis has better on-screen chemistry with literally everyone else, from Dino to Araena.
Also Atlus are cowards and will basically never confirm any of their Persona characters to be gay outside of making cheap allusions or gags, including Kanji.
Chris is out here dressed like a leather daddy, a sailor stripper, and has a bazillion contextual clues to his sexuality, and people are still turning a blind eye.
This is way subtext sucks. Developers need to get some fucking balls and confirm things. None of this queer baiting garbage.
I feel like Kairi is only in there so they can deny Sora and Riku are gay
Sometimes you can like both girls and boys.
I'm a straight man IRL. Every woman I play in video games is lesbian. No ladies to romance - then no romance is had. Sorry Cmdr Shepard Liara is not in ME2. Better hope she gets back on board in part 3. What's that Cassandra in DA:I? you are straight! Okay, guess I'll just fly solo then. Aloy - yes I agree you have more to do than romance but how about you look up Talanah - see if she is up to anything. I'm probably being sexist and showing lesbian fetishism or something - I wouldn't disagree. They all like the ladies though - its weird. What the dudes get up to I don't care. There are lots of them to keep themselves busy though.
Somehow, Golden Deer ended up the straightest house in the game. And that's including the church!
Black Eagles is the pride house.
I agree with you.
I'm just saying that particular example on it's own is pretty weak, especially compared to everything else (like you've stated).
Yosuke in P4. But Altus retconned it, so instead of it being Yosuke projecting self-hatred onto Kanji, he's just a homophobic asshole.
This is just "flamboyant = gay" and as a villain, its a hyper homophobic clicheGhirahim seems like a pretty safe bet.
I think the point is that it can't be considered in a vaccuum? It's not that he wrote about babes and Claire questioning it, it's that it happened ON TOP OF everything else.
He doesn't ever express anything beyond platonic towards any of the male cast.
... they are non canon, fanservice costumes. Have you seen the stuff they put on Jill.
But it's not on its own. It's part of a giant gay tapestry.
The only thing missing is the word gay, and the courage to allow characters to properly display their sexuality beyond cowardly subtext you'd expect from a teenager.
If only KH3 didnt go as far as it possibly could to force Sora and Kairi together for a shitty motivation.
In Resident Evil 2 there's a note from Chris which Claire notes doesn't sound like him, and the letter is Chris as friendly, on vacation and as a womanizer.
This is in a series where hardly any protagonist can get though a game without starting or continuing a romantic relationship with another character, but Chris and Sheva shake hands and call it a day, Chris treats Jill like a sister, and he's physically pushing Jessica off of him in Revelations 1.
This is in a series where hardly any protagonist can get though a game without starting or continuing a romantic relationship with another character, but Chris and Sheva shake hands and call it a day, Chris treats Jill like a sister, and he's physically pushing Jessica off of him in Revelations 1.
If people want Chris to be gay, that's okay, but stop using that letter in RE2 as a "proof".
The letter isn't about his sexuality, it's about him hiding from Umbrella lol.
The letter isn't about his sexuality, it's about him hiding from Umbrella lol.
Have you seen the stuff they put on the other male characters? Are any of them portrayed in the same way Chris is in terms of homoerotic sex appeal?
It's both because Claire doesn't know about Umbrella. (And he isn't hiding from Umbrella, he's spying on them.)
I mean Claire is a random civilian that has nothing to do with Umbrella, she just sees him talking about babes and immediately can tell its fishy.
It means hes gay jim
I think Barry might have gotten something in Rev 2, but nothing even close to Chris' level.
Or maybe, that means he doesn't usually talk like straight-up douchebag.
Capcom gaybaits Chris enough that frankly the right to decide isn't in their hands anymore. It's imo like how the guy who named Gifs can actually be wrong.
I didn't finish the game and I'm genuinely curious. So let's see it.
Do you understand how costumes work in videogames, right? Why do you think female characters are frequently put in bikini or costumes? Or do you think Jill has a secret stripper career?
Why would Capcom feel the need to clarify that Chris isn't a douchebag? Something that has literally never been an issue.
The subtext is practically slapping us in the face and you still want to write it off as something random?
Do you think male and female characters are treated the same when it comes to sexuality? You're being intentionally obtuse.
No one has to prove anything. He could be bi and not show it, you cant tell someone theyre wrong.
I'm joking because I think it's funny how you can read that moment that way in the greater context of all the pandering over the years.
I like reading Chris as gay not necessarily because there's a wealth of definite evidence to prove it but more because it's cool and empowering to have one of the horror action stars of video gaming since the PS1 days also be gay.
Ignis seems like a stretch. Ignis acts like a parent more than anything else. Never really got any romantic undertones or subtext.