Raydonn

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Oct 25, 2017
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Next year I may be fucked, or I'll be fine. Nothing I can really do about it.

Does anyone else's ROE list a typical reason for layoff, or did I just get screwed? Cause I was laid off due to covid, not seasonal work ending. X.x
Are you eligible for EI? If you are, you can apply for CERB.

What are the eligibility criteria for the Canada Emergency Response Benefit?
  • You must reside in Canada
  • You are 15 years of age or older at the time of application
  • You have stopped or will stop working for reasons related to COVID-19, or because you are unable to work due to illness, or because you lost your employment for other reasons beyond your control; and
    • If you are submitting for the first time, that you have stopped or will stop working for reasons related to COVID-19 for at least 14 consecutive days within the 4 week benefit period
    • If you are filing for a subsequent period and did not return to work since your previous claim, you did not receive any employment or self employment income since collecting the benefit and do not expect to receive any employment or self employment income within the 4 week benefit period
    • If you are filing for a subsequent period after having returned to work between periods, that you have stopped or will stop working for reasons related to COVID-19 for at least 14 consecutive days within the 4 week benefit period
  • You have not quit your job voluntarily
  • You are not receiving nor have you applied for the CERB from the Canada Revenue Agency
  • You are not receiving Employment Insurance benefits for the same benefit period
  • You have earned a minimum of $5,000 in income within the last 12 months or in the 2019 calendar year from either:
    • Employment income
    • Self-employment income
Under these rules, you're fine.
 
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Vamphuntr

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Oct 25, 2017
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Mainly that CERB will be more lenient and more people will be eligible now.

Also, there was a point that Trudeau basically snapped. He's really tired of people, and mainly reporters constantly asking him when things are reopening.

Yeah journos and reporters are annoying about this. Even OP ed in papers are now all about ending confinement. Why should we take advice from columnist and editors about this issue again? It's not because you've interviewed 1 specialist and read two papers on pub med that you are an expert on the matter.

Still I feel media are hit pretty hard by this crisis. People have less money to buy papers, subscribe online or do donations and they were already in a precarious position beforehand. Kind of suck for that industry.
 

firehawk12

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Oct 25, 2017
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Are you eligible for EI? If you are, you can apply for CERB.


Under these rules, you're fine.
These rules are already out of date.

Most notably anyone making under 1000 a month can apply to CERB now, including essential workers like grocery store clerks and people who have had their hours/income reduced.
 

Raydonn

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Oct 25, 2017
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These rules are already out of date.

Most notably anyone making under 1000 a month can apply to CERB now, including essential workers like grocery store clerks and people who have had their hours/income reduced.
Yeah, I know they are out of date, but Faenix1 was still fine under the old rules, so they will be fine under the new rules.

Minister of Employment clarified the seasonal jobs. It's for those who are on EI, it's running out and need more benefits soon.
 
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2pac_71

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Oct 25, 2017
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so my mom not working and getting EI starting on March 14th for $295 / week can't get CERB still correct?
 

N64Controller

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Nov 2, 2017
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3 days left of test reagents in Quebec, but we're apparently able to create it now so it shouldn't lead to an issue. Not reducing the number of tests.
 

Pedrito

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Nov 4, 2017
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Quebec +612
487 deaths (+52)
984 hospitalization (+48)
218 ICU (-12)

I wonder if the patients in ICU are getting better or are dying and that's why it's going down.
And now they're pleading for specialist doctors (who don't have anything to do these days) to go do nursing work in long-term care homes. Good luck with that...
 

N64Controller

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Nov 2, 2017
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Well shit. Wake up sheeple!

Hahahahahahaha c'est parfait!

"À quoi nous fait pensé le 0? Un bagel. Un bagel de Montréal. Mais c'est pas tout, enlevez le B et le L de Bagel. Qu,est-ce qui nous reste? ÂGÉ. Quelle tranche de la population est la plus affectée par la COVID-19? Les personnes âgées!"
 

Faenix1

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Oct 27, 2017
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Sorry for the silly question. Got my roe and it said something different than I thought it would, so wondered how that'll effect my cerb qualification. Little mind freak out moment, thanks all. lol
 

excelsiorlef

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Oct 25, 2017
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So theoretically someone working full time could now make less than their 2 day a week co-worker.

That said the more money gets in the hands of vulnerable Canadians the better
 

MeBecomingI

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Oct 27, 2017
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Probably a stupid question, but it's hard to find an answer on this. Would this updated CERB for part time workers still work for someone is working a part time essential worker job who is definitely making less than $1000 but is still a full time student? I feel like it won't matter but students are always classified differently in certain financial situations because of loans and such so I have no idea what to expect. My girlfriend is still doing a full course (now online) but also works a few shifts a month for a grocery / pharmacy store. I didn't see any specific exemption listed for students who work part time but I don't know for sure. I know there is some concern of students not being reflected in the current CERB plan but I'm not sure if that's just for those who study and DON'T work at all.
 
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CannedSoup

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Oct 30, 2017
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I made the mistake of filling out my EI report and saying I had received money in the past 2 weeks, but had not worked during that time (it was my final payment from work before I got laid off), and now it says they need more information from me regarding this money before I can fill out the next report. But the number they provide doesn't seem to work? Or all the lines are busy? I'm not sure. Doesn't even give me an automated message. I tried a different number and same thing, just beeping sounds before the call ends.

Anyone been able to get through to talk with someone?
 

Vamphuntr

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wonder if the patients in ICU are getting better or are dying and that's why it's going down.
And now they're pleading for specialist doctors (who don't have anything to do these days) to go do nursing work in long-term care homes. Good luck with that...

It's a way to compensate them for losing money. Specialists are paid for each medical act they do. All specialties and medical imaging are only doing P1-P2 cases so their revenues are down. They actually asked for financial compensation to the government for that but my guess is that the government was uncomfortable subsidizing people that make 400 000$ + a year. This way they will still pay them outrageously high up to 2500$ each day but they will have to do something in return.

He's hoping some will be greedy enough to accept. Still, like a journalist asked in the presser, it means they will pay specialists 15x the salary of a nurse to do the same job which is kind unfair for nurses.

Nobody wanted to work there before the pandemic and now that they are infested with COVID it's unlikely many will do want to so greed is an adequate solution.
 

firehawk12

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Oct 25, 2017
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He's hoping some will be greedy enough to accept. Still, like a journalist asked in the presser, it means they will pay specialists 15x the salary of a nurse to do the same job which is kind unfair for nurses.

Nobody wanted to work there before the pandemic and now that they are infested with COVID it's unlikely many will do want to so greed is an adequate solution.
It's almost like we should be paying nurses more.

Also my understanding is that a lot of nurses work part time in several hospitals as well, in part because hospital administrators don't want to bring on more full time employees and pay benefits (at least anecdotally, I have a couple of nurse friends who work at two or three different hospitals in the GTA for shifts prior to COVID), so who knows if that's also trouble in the making.
 
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It's almost like we should be paying nurses more.

Also my understanding is that a lot of nurses work part time in several hospitals as well, in part because hospital administrators don't want to bring on more full time employees and pay benefits (at least anecdotally, I have a couple of nurse friends who work at two or three different hospitals in the GTA for shifts prior to COVID), so who knows if that's also trouble in the making.

Yea, it's big trouble

Not hiring people full time so they have to work in multiple places is a huge part of this crisis now

Also private LTC homes that like to cut corners and lobby for deregulation
 

Star-Lord

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Oct 25, 2017
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I also heard the bank of canada said companies will be okay till end of May and June but realistically i can't see many of these businesss opening up by then :( its sad to see
 

Leeness

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Oct 27, 2017
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BC state of emerg continues for another 2 weeks.

Update:

+44 new cases
+3 deaths (first in the Interior)
-138 in hospital
-59 in ICU
-48 of our cases cases are linked to that prison in Mission, with 7 in hospital :(

Most importantly (not actually, but it's kind of funny), they announced an upcoming limited edition show styled off Dr. Henry's lol. All proceeds will go to the food bank.
 
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Saifu

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Oct 27, 2017
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My employer is emailing us to see if some of us are willing to return to work some time next month.
Fucking unbelievable...
 

DazzlerIE

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Oct 25, 2017
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BC state of emerg continues for another 2 weeks.

Update:

+44 new cases
+3 deaths (first in the Interior)
-138 in hospital
-59 in ICU
-48 of our cases cases are linked to that prison in Mission, with 7 in hospital :(

Interesting thing I noted today, Fraser Health has more active cases right now than Vancouver Coastal Health
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Ahhhh I bet you're right. That prison is not having a good time 😔

Yeah, it's the LTC homes and prisons - places where people are in close quarters - where an outbreak grows like crazy by the time it's detected. They are also places where individuals who live there don't have control over hygiene, laundry, cleaning, and all of that kind of stuff. It really sucks.
 

Leeness

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah, it's the LTC homes and prisons - places where people are in close quarters - where an outbreak grows like crazy by the time it's detected. They are also places where individuals who live there don't have control over hygiene, laundry, cleaning, and all of that kind of stuff. It really sucks.

Yeah. It sucks...

However, I'm also grateful that it seems like a lot of the care homes affected are being found really quickly? Other than the two or three hardest hit ones first, the other ones only seem to have one or two cases, so I'm happy for that.
 

Vamphuntr

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's almost like we should be paying nurses more.

Also my understanding is that a lot of nurses work part time in several hospitals as well, in part because hospital administrators don't want to bring on more full time employees and pay benefits (at least anecdotally, I have a couple of nurse friends who work at two or three different hospitals in the GTA for shifts prior to COVID), so who knows if that's also trouble in the making.

It's true for all level of healthcare in a hospital. Where I work at many people whether they are Technician, Nurse, Technologist, Aid or you name it only have part time positions. The reason is that when your position is part time they don't have to give you full benefits (paid holidays, paid sick leave, paid day off for family reason) and instead pay you a flat % bonus on each of your pay. The disgusting thing is that more often than not you will be working full time anyway because there is always someone sick or absent to replace or you are constantly understaffed anyway. It's also extremely unfair to new employees. Healthcare is heavily unionized and when a long replacement or a position open up all of the other people with part time positions will have much more seniority than you and you will be left with literally the leftovers.

EDIT : Oh we are so in trouble
 

elty

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Oct 31, 2017
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EDIT : Oh we are so in trouble

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Dead, dead, very very dead.
 

Cheerilee

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Oct 25, 2017
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Rip the band aid off and give it to me straight, Morrigan. What does it say? I know it's about the border, but how bad???
Courtesy of Google:

(Washington) President Donald Trump alleges that the border between the United States and Canada could be reopened to traffic in the near future, a speech that contrasts with that of Canadian authorities.


Donald Trump said Canada was doing a good job of controlling the spread of COVID-19 and said closing the border could be one of the very first preventive measures to be lifted.

He made the comment Wednesday during his daily press conference from the White House.

The two neighboring countries have imposed a travel ban across the border for non-essential travel. The ban, which has been in effect for almost a month, is set to end on April 21, unless extended.

The decision to reopen the border, however, does not depend solely on American will, while the United States is still grappling with the heaviest death toll in the world in terms of people infected with COVID-19.

The epidemic is particularly virulent in the state bordering New York.

In Canada, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has reiterated that measures to prevent the spread of the coronavirus will have to remain in place for several weeks.
Basically, Trump has decided that Canadians are clean enough to be allowed into America again.

Trump apparently doesn't realize (or doesn't care) that the border closing was always about keeping unclean Americans out of Canada.

Trump wants America to be open for business again, so he thinks that opening the border with Canada could be step number one (since everyone else is fighting him to keep things closed).

The border was "jointly closed" by both the USA and Canada, as a way to allow Trump to save face, and the "joint" border closure is set to expire in six days.
 
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Courtesy of Google:


Basically, Trump has decided that Canadians are clean enough to be allowed into America again.

Trump apparently doesn't realize (or doesn't care) that the border closing was always about keeping unclean Americans out of Canada.

Trump wants America to be open for business again, so he thinks that opening the border with Canada could be step number one (since everyone else is fighting him to keep things closed).

The border was "jointly closed" by both the USA and Canada, as a way to allow Trump to save face, and the "joint" border closure is set to expire in six days.

God damn it, that son of a bitch....

Also, thank you kindly for the translation assistance, friend.