Canada PoliERA |OT 2| Time Is a Flat Circle
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Greens will most likely vote against the throne speech unless emissions targets are raised.
It wouldn't take much for NDP to do the same.
The Bloq is probably Trudeau's most reliable ally right now lol.
Conservatives manufacturing a crisis and obstruction because they lost. Hoping their media will successfully convince people it's Trudeau's fault and we need a strong wise leader like Scheer.
LMAO
Its gonna be something to have another Conservative leadership election in less than four years since the last one. Unfortunately for us, the Canadians who vote Conservative are not necessarily party members, so I wonder what crazy they'll put up next.
I feel like the strategic choice, were I the CPC, would be to try to get Rona Ambrose back into federal politics to run. She has already lead the party as interim leader before Scheer, and was even appointed to the NAFTA advisory council by the Trudeau government, so she could actually attempt to market herself as trying to bring Canadians together (not saying that's true, just saying they could attempt to spin it that way more easily). And I honestly can't recall any huge scandals against her, unlike say, Peter Mackay.
She's also been outspoken about women's issues, climate change/emissions, and at the very least supported the inquiry into missing/murdered indigenous women.
Hell, she even ticks the box as having been born in Alberta.
She's obviously still a Conservative, but would be hell of an improvement and shift over Scheer.
She's also been outspoken about women's issues, climate change/emissions, and at the very least supported the inquiry into missing/murdered indigenous women.
Hell, she even ticks the box as having been born in Alberta.
She's obviously still a Conservative, but would be hell of an improvement and shift over Scheer.
Hopefully not. I mean, it looks like the discussions the leaders all had were good? I hope? Lol. 😭
I am not panicked at all, if these opposition parties want to go into another election with Wexit, LOL
Go ahead, pull the plug.
Isn't it funny that the Bloc is the only one not wanting to go into an election?
Go ahead, pull the plug.
Isn't it funny that the Bloc is the only one not wanting to go into an election?
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Seriously, you should not be getting worked up over this. This is no chance the government is going to lose a confidence vote right now.
I know
But just imagine an election at the end of December lol....turnout would be 10%
Thank you. Please be gentle with me. This is basically me all the time when politics come up right now:
Thank you. Please be gentle with me. This is basically me all the time when politics come up right now:
Take a deep breath Leeness. There will always be more days ahead, so getting anxious about today won't make tomorrow any better :)
I'm a very naturally anxious person lol (as I'm sure you can all tell). But I try. Thank you 🙏
Thought this deserved its own thread because wow is Kenney continuing to expose how terrible a person he is: Bill 22: Jason Kenney's Plan to Fire Election Commissioner Investigating Illegal Campaign Donations, Change Control of Teacher's Pension Investments
Don't judge all people in a place for the actions of their leader. Or are we going to start comparing all Ontarians to Doug Ford...
The difference is that Ontario learned from being burnt (for the time being) and helped keep the cons out of power federally. Alberta never learns
Key difference being that 60% of Ontario did not vote Conservative, while 64% of Alberta voted conservative (UCP+AB Party).
This is all a repeat of Obama wining in 2008 and then again in 2012.
CPC will go with a Canadian-Trump next, and not willingly, just as Republicans didn't want Trump.
CPC will go with a Canadian-Trump next, and not willingly, just as Republicans didn't want Trump.
This right here is why it cannot happen with the CPC as it is today.
People already do. And ford is as good as gone next election. Kenney was willingly put in place by Albertans and will most likely stay in future elections.
They keep voting for the same grifters every election then whine when their team loses. The vast majority voted UCP and CPC. No FPTP tom foolery here, the numbers show it. They deserve everything that's coming for them.
They know all they have to do is bide their time until Liberal fatigue sets in and install their candidate to fuck it up. People don't understand the consequences of elections. Some arguing that all parties are the same.
Added perspective of the optics in AB now.
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If people want to say "people who voted for Kenney deserve what they get" then I understand. But don't lump in the hundreds of thousands that voted for other options.
man, Alberta is at near dictatorship levels of support for the Right.
They had decades to prep.
They tried to have their cake and eat it.
They are stirring up disunity in the country while Quebec has been quiet for over 15 years
why do the poor whites vote for the worst possible option?
they had like 4 decades of uninterrupted Tory rule until Notley nudged in for 4 years while the Right was temporarily divided
other Provinces cycle through two parties (sometime a 3rd) but Alberta is truley Saddam Hussein, Kim Jung Un dictatorship levels
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"Feeling if Alberta Separated?"
Happy/Unhappy
AB: 36% / 63%
"How Would You Vote On Alberta Separation?"
Remain/Separate
AB: 75% / 25%
Smart people right there. Now they need to squash the morons trying to make it a thing.
Happy/Unhappy
AB: 36% / 63%
"How Would You Vote On Alberta Separation?"
Remain/Separate
AB: 75% / 25%
Smart people right there. Now they need to squash the morons trying to make it a thing.
QC: 55% / 45% hahahaha
Alberta Wexit going off on Quebec Bashing has made most us here of all political allegiances say 'buh bye berta''
Turnout was 64% last election.
And Kenney got 54% of the popular vote.
So no, most people in AB didn't vote for him. Not sure what the 36% were doing but they weren't voting.
You can't even blame vote splitting, it was pretty much all UCP/NDP votes.
Its just so transparent. I don't want to see any province leave but my eyes can't roll back far enough when i hear their grievances.
You're never going to get the $100/barrel price ever again so as a province fucking deal with it. Raise your god damn taxes or something.
Scheer needs to own this. He still talks about oil, oil, oil. Any talk of oil from Scheer makes the East associate Scheer with Wexit
Which is a bad opinion because a single province leaving would result in the breakup of the country.
you are talking to Gutter_Trash the Liberal Federalist who lived through 1980 and 1995.
I don't have any lessons to learn on national unity from anybody.
Wexit on the other hand is freakin' joke
That's who he's owned by. He doesn't speak for most Canadians, he speaks for the companies and investors who bought into the oil sands years ago who want a CPC government to rescue their investment at the cost of the environment and everything else.
They love the free market until it goes against them and then they're screaming for government intervention.
It's a joke yet you are in favour of it. Shows that you are a joke.
If any province got to the point where the federal government began negotiations with them for a special agreement (whether to leave or to remain with special conditions) then the other provinces would demand in as well, and the country would either totally devolve into a loose collection of independent regions, or collapse completely.
You would be living in the independent nation of Quebec. So yes, less right-wing people (except for the majority of racists), but also you no longer live in Canada.
Quebec Independence is near it's end. As soon as the hippy boomers go, separatism will be dead.
Demographics and diversity makes it so in a popular vote
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Keep in mind that most of Canada doesn't really care if Quebec separates either.
Ironically, Quebec actually does care if other provinces in Canada separate (goes to show that yes, there are plenty of federalists in QC).
Remarkably most people don't think there should be some political association with QC if QC separated. Personally I'm quite neutral on QC leaving, but I would strongly want to ensure there is some Schengen style free/work/movement association.
The Cons wouldn't mind that one bit. Hello Republic of Canada.
I might be wrong but that sounds like one way of getting out of treaties between indigenous people and the Crown. No Crown, no treaty.
I think Gutter is right when saying that separatism is not really trending in Quebec right now, especially with younger generations.
Yup, the constitutional disputes from the 1980s, 90s that fueled it has evaporated.
The PQ has been on a downhill trajectory since 2003, losing official party status in 2018
Boomers are dying.
Millennials embrace bilingualism.
Diversity is on the rise
it is demographically impossible today
You aren't going anywhere but Kenney is being a dick for weaponizing this sentiment instead of quelling it.
Considering how well the UK is handling their exit i don't think people will want in on that.
This down here is what's is wrong with AB.
Highest median incomes and highest GDP in the land yet they cry that Trudeau is causing all of this. Get stuffed.
My post was a jest, but I wouldn't put it past my province to look at the dumpster fire that's Brexit and say
"Mmmm, yeah, gimme a slice of that"
The UPC is such a pile of shit of a party