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MikeHattsu

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Bus driver says he didn't know his gummy snacks included THC

A commercial bus driver has been charged with 38 counts of reckless endangerment after blacking out behind the steering wheel while snacking on gummies infused with THC.

A commercial bus driver has been charged with 38 counts of reckless endangerment after blacking out behind the steering wheel while snacking on gummies he says he didn't know were infused with THC.

Jinhuan Chen appeared Tuesday in Bridgeport Superior Court after being arrested at his home in Boston.

Chen was driving 38 passengers from the Mohegan Sun Casino on March 13 when he stopped the bus on the side of Interstate 95 in Stratford. Police said they found Chen slumped unconscious in the driver's seat, next to an open package of Smokies Edibles Cannabis Infused Fruit Chews.


Toxicology tests showed Chen had a high level of THC, the active ingredient in cannabis, in his bloodstream, prosecutors said.

Chen told Judge Ndidi Moses on Tuesday that he had no idea he had been snacking on anything but regular candy.

"I didn't know it was marijuana," Chen said through a Chinese interpreter, according to Hearst Connecticut Media. "I didn't know."


Victor Chen, the manager of Go Go Sun Tour, the bus company, told Hearst that Jinhuan Chen had been driving for the Boston-based company for 10 years and has an exemplary record.

"He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, but he has a sweet tooth and likes candy," Victor Chen said.

"This would never have happened a couple of years ago. but now there's marijuana everywhere here," he added.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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bro

the logo literally has a pot leaf on it

the company name is SMOKIES

nobody's gonna believe that excuse
 

HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm guessing he didn't look at the packaging as many of those THC edibles have numerous warnings on them in part thanks to how many kids were mistaking them for regular candy or normal folks eating too many too fast.
 

Transistor

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This seems to be the packaging in question, just from a google search from the article. I could buy not knowing the words. English isn't his first language (it mentions he spoke through an interpreter), but there's a pot leaf in the logo and a warning logo at the bottom right. Not to mention the thought had to run through his mind after seeing how much they cost.

That being said, it might not be a bad idea to have a larger label requirement. Some people really may not notice a small pot leaf logo like that. It's very likely he's telling the truth.
 
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GoldenEye 007

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sucks but as a commercial operator, you have responsibility of what you put in your body during your shifts. And I'll say operator of any motor vehicle - commercial or private.
 

Cousin From Boston

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Nov 21, 2017
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This seems to be the packaging in question, just from a google search from the article. I could buy not knowing the words. English isn't his first language (it mentions he spoke through an interpreter), but there's a clear pot leaf in the logo and a warning logo at the bottom right.
How could he have known tho?
 

Glassboy

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Oct 27, 2017
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Doesn't sound like he is a native speaker so maybe he is not able to read English either.
 

henlo_birb

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This seems to be the packaging in question, just from a google search from the article. I could buy not knowing the words. English isn't his first language (it mentions he spoke through an interpreter), but there's a clear pot leaf in the logo and a warning logo at the bottom right.
This looks like regular food. Wouldn't be the first time someone ate something without reading.
 

HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do they even sell THC gummies outside of dispensaries? Maybe some jerk gave him the edibles without saying anything.
 

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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The price had to be a giveaway, unless they thought it was some kind of designer candy. Looks like no one was hurt.

But man, can you imagine snacking on weed gummies as if they were regular ones? They'd put me on my ass quick.
 

Bear

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Oct 25, 2017
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So he didn't feel them at all? He just went from normal to instantly blackout? That's not how edibles work. Like my guy, the second you start feeling weird, you pull over. What a clown.
 

Irnbru

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Oct 25, 2017
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Honestly; give away is snacking , you don't eat through them, you just have one at a time. Like bruh, that high must've been wild if he was snacking on them
 

Wesley

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This seems to be the packaging in question, just from a google search from the article. I could buy not knowing the words. English isn't his first language (it mentions he spoke through an interpreter), but there's a clear pot leaf in the logo and a warning logo at the bottom right.

Not to mention the thought had to run through his mind after seeing how much they cost. That being said, it might not be a bad idea to have a larger label requirement. Some people really may not notice a small pot leaf logo like that.

Yeah I looked at that image for about as long as I would when buying some sweets and I didn't spot either of those things.
 

boxter432

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Oct 28, 2017
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/can you just buy weed gummies in a regular store?
*MN resident here where we are blocked from any sort of progress by a republican state senate so I know very little, but thought it was always from dedicated dispensaries.
 

Slackerchan

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Oct 25, 2017
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I would hope that his employer goes to bat for him. If English isn't your first language and you're not paying attention, you might just think that they're some expensive candy and nothing else. He pulled over on the highway and stopped the bus which was the responsible thing to do.
 

wenis

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Oct 25, 2017
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Whew eating a 100mg bag like it's candy, sounds like me on the weekend. Hopefully the courts come out in his favor just considering he isn't an English speaker natively. Whoever set him up with that bag really dropped the ball.

/can you just buy weed gummies in a regular store?
*MN resident here where we are blocked from any sort of progress by a republican state senate so I know very little, but thought it was always from dedicated dispensaries.

Nothing that's just straight up THC like that packaging indicates. If it were like CBD or Delta-9 then yes, those are much more lightly regulated and can be bought at any gas station practically now.

Just googling this brand and if they produce Delta-9 products (which would be gas station friendly) I'm not seeing it. Their products also contain Delta-8 which are federally regulated so their products wouldn't be able to be found just everywhere. He could've also got them from home from a pot smokers stash without realizing it.
 
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Carnby

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Oct 25, 2017
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I believe it. No one who knew what it was would eat that many. Makes no sense.

And it sounds like English is not his first language.
 

Dis

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Oct 27, 2017
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bro

the logo literally has a pot leaf on it

the company name is SMOKIES

nobody's gonna believe that excuse

My wife had smoked weed fairly often with my brother in law for a good 4 years before we met, she had no idea what a weed leaf looked like and has asked me if random leaf designs on stuff is weed before buying certain gifts for her mum (who is super against drugs) because she has no idea. Not saying his excuse holds up for him but not everyone who has done weed or whatever knows what they look like let alone someone who may never have done it. Add in that he doesn't know English and it could happen.
 

Parch

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Nov 6, 2017
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I'm guessing he didn't look at the packaging as many of those THC edibles have numerous warnings on them in part thanks to how many kids were mistaking them for regular candy or normal folks eating too many too fast.
Since he was using an interpreter during the hearing, language could have been an issue and he didn't understand the package warnings. It's still not an excuse, but it could be a legit explanation.
 

Tbm24

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Oct 25, 2017
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According to the packaging, if he snacked on all 10 and is not at all used to weed, I can see how this went wrong so fast. I don't know how this mistake happens tho, that bag is NOT going to be priced like a bag of Haribos or something.

That said, the edible game is wild these days. The things I find in smoke shops in NYC always just leave me puzzled. I found a snickers bar that you wouldn't know was an edible unless you flipped it over and actually tried to read the play on words. Stuff like that I'm just not a fan of.
 

stumblebee

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Jan 22, 2018
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So he didn't feel them at all? He just went from normal to instantly blackout? That's not how edibles work. Like my guy, the second you start feeling weird, you pull over. What a clown.
Read the article. That's exactly what he did.

I'm inclined to believe the guy if he isn't adept at reading the English language. The fact that he was just eating them like normal candy would mean that he was probably unaware of what was in them.

Ultimately, I'm really surprised that there's not a federal law aimed at cutting down imitation labels of this stuff. I saw one label that was a play on Trolli sour worms. I fully expect big ass surgeon general labels on edible packaging within the next year or two.
 

Transistor

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bro

the logo literally has a pot leaf on it

the company name is SMOKIES

nobody's gonna believe that excuse
English isn't his first language, so the THC stuff and "smokiez" isn't going to register, probably. The pot leaf in the logo really isn't that big, either, if you're not paying attention to it. Really the only thing that would register to a non-English speaker would be the CA warning at the bottom right, but even that's not that big.

Honestly, it's a pretty likely scenario that he's telling the truth.
 

JimD

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Aug 17, 2018
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I can't see him buying them and not knowing. He'd have had to go to a dispensary and pay a lot more than regular candy. But if he lives with someone who bought them and left them out somewhere at thier home it might make sense. Especially if he doesn't know English well-- that warning symbol in the bottom right should probably be more prominent.
 

Sai

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Oct 25, 2017
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lmao T_T I'm glad no one was hurt so it can be kind of a laughable situation. Holy shit at snacking on 100mg of edibles lmfao
 

CatAssTrophy

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Dec 4, 2017
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They look like a boujie small company brand and that would, at least in my mind, somewhat justify the price, but yeah, doesn't look SUPER outwardly obvious that they're THC gummies.

Even if he knew they had THC in them, he wouldn't have eaten so much that he blacked out on the side of the road. Sure, people try to get away with being high on the job, but nobody's doing THAT much.
 

Volimar

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That's a lot of reckless endangerment charges if he didn't know any better. I mean, you should make sure what you're putting in your body, but at the same time, edibles in the mass market aren't very ubiquitous yet. Hope they allow for those mitigating circumstances.
 

Surakian

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This seems to be the packaging in question, just from a google search from the article. I could buy not knowing the words. English isn't his first language (it mentions he spoke through an interpreter), but there's a clear pot leaf in the logo and a warning logo at the bottom right.

Not to mention the thought had to run through his mind after seeing how much they cost. That being said, it might not be a bad idea to have a larger label requirement. Some people really may not notice a small pot leaf logo like that.
The logo is so tiny and people don't pay attention to that kind of stuff. I'm sure he didn't even buy them himself but it was a family member who did and left them laying out.
 

PlanetSmasher

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English isn't his first language, so the THC stuff and "smokiez" isn't going to register, probably. The pot leaf in the logo really isn't that big, either, if you're not paying attention to it. Really the only thing that would register to a non-English speaker would be the CA warning at the bottom right, but even that's not that big.

Fair. Still, at least he didn't hurt anybody. That's good. But yeah, the price difference should've been some kind of red flag - I'm pretty sure a bag of those must cost 3 to 5 times as much as a comparable bag of normal non-weed gummies.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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I took 3 10mg chocolates over the span of an hour before walking into a glass museum. I damn near had a panic attack because I kept thinking I was too close to everything and was going to knock a priceless piece of art to the ground.

Edibles are sneaky little fuckers.
 

PlanetSmasher

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I took 3 10mg chocolates over the span of an hour before walking into a glass museum. I damn near had a panic attack because I kept thinking I was too close to everything and was going to knock a priceless piece of art to the ground.

Edibles are sneaky little fuckers.

The first and only time I ever had edibles, my friends and I decided to watch the blu-ray version of 2001: A Space Odyssey for the first time ever while they kicked in.

That was a fucking mistake.
 

GoldenEye 007

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/can you just buy weed gummies in a regular store?
*MN resident here where we are blocked from any sort of progress by a republican state senate so I know very little, but thought it was always from dedicated dispensaries.
That's the other thing, these aren't the Delta 9 things or whatever that are sold almost everywhere or in gas stations/liquor stores.

This is straight up THC. Also wondering if those can just be bought anywhere in CT or MA.
 

Dyno

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Oct 25, 2017
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I dont really get why people are calling him a clown etc. English isn't his first language and he's clearly a little rusty at it. His employer said he's an exemplary worker with 10 years on the record. He pulled over when he realised his ability to operate the vehicle was becoming impaired. It sounds like a genuine mistake
 

Pacifaxe

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Oct 28, 2017
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Haven't had that brand but the ones I usually get are kind of tricky to open. It's also kind of difficult to just snack on them with the way the package is designed unless you have extremely tiny hands.

But I haven't had those so not sure 🤣 sucks that happened to him.
 

pizoxuat

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Jan 12, 2018
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Edibles really shouldn't be cute with their packaging, it needs to be crystal clear what you are getting regardless of language barrier. 100mg deffo does some stuff to you, I give him credit for getting the bus pulled over and no one getting hurt once he started to feel it. Poor guy.
 

Dr. Mario

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This seems to be the packaging in question, just from a google search from the article. I could buy not knowing the words. English isn't his first language (it mentions he spoke through an interpreter), but there's a pot leaf in the logo and a warning logo at the bottom right. Not to mention the thought had to run through his mind after seeing how much they cost.

That being said, it might not be a bad idea to have a larger label requirement. Some people really may not notice a small pot leaf logo like that. It's very likely he's telling the truth.
If I didn't speak English (or conversely this was full of Chinese characters) I probably would have no clue these were drugs.
Even if I recognized the hemp warning logo it could mean anything without context. Maybe the package is made with hemp. Maybe California is the hemp state, who knows. It's just a bunch of watermelon gummies.