Just finished my rewatch of the series earlier in the week to prep for this. Love the show but still burns that Mike is killed off(I understand it) he is GOAT of the show in the later seasons to me, thank goodness for Better Call Saul.
Breaking Bad: El Camino Teaser
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Oh I'm sure there's a good reason for it that we'll find out after watching the movie hehe.
These promos aren't a part of the movie. Here's the only on set image that was released a few days ago.
These promos aren't a part of the movie. Here's the only on set image that was released a few days ago.
So... in other words they were too lazy to get him a fake wig/beard for the teaser?
She is older(at least played by a clearly older actress) in Better Call Saul then in Breaking Bad and Saul is prequel.
Is there a reason nobody thinks he just shaved when on the run? Maybe to look different than he had in the proceeding months/year if people are looking for him?
So... in other words they were too lazy to get him a fake wig/beard for the teaser?
Yeah I guess that would make sense. It seemed like the scene in the teaser happened that night, but I suppose he could have run home (set image) and shaved or whatever. Or maybe that set image is after a time jump or something.
...Anyway I should stop speculating. If Breaking Bad is anything to go by these guys know what they're doing.
Walt's dead and I want him to stay dead, his story and arc is complete, bringing him back will just be spinning around the same wheel. But not gonna lie, if they somehow tease him being alive at the end of this, either with a slow-panning shot of him in the ICU or some sort of updated news report... I will lose my shit (in a good way).
At the end of Breaking Bad 2: Season 1 we see Bruce Willis in a coffee shop, watching a news report about notorious supervillain Heisenberg's most recent reign of terror.
So... in other words they were too lazy to get him a fake wig/beard for the teaser?
Why can't folks use a bit of imagination here? It was a teaser. They could have had audio from one part of the movie and visuals from another. Like how. . . trailers are cut sometimes.
Jesse was locked away and isolated from human interaction for a while. He's probably going to have visions of Walt in this movie
I wonder if they pull an Arkham Knight, with Walt appearing as a sort of imaginary frenemy
I feel like you and I watched two very different shows. I watched a show where Pinkman was a troubled kid from long before he started working with Walt, who turned Jesse from a small time crook into a murderer working for the cartel, who abused and manipulated Jesse at every turn into doing things that he never would have done, or even thought about, on his own, and then ultimately selling him out to literal fucking Nazis as a slave cook.
Sounds like a victim to me.
Jessie IS a victim of Walts semi selfish acts. I know he fools himself into thinking he's doing it to secure his family, but in reality, he just loved the thrill and the rush. And it costed Jessie his life also along with Walts
Are we going to see jesse parents and his lil bro again?
man.. shits bout to be real deppressing.
man.. shits bout to be real deppressing.
Well, yeah. He flat out admits this to Skyler in the finale. "I did it for me. I liked it, I was really good at it, and I was really... I was alive".
He ruined the lives of everyone in his family, Jesse, Jane and her father, and scores of other people because he wanted to be a fucking kingpin. How some people don't get that is beyond me.
honestly I wouldn't like that. Jesse is alone now, and he should remain alone. Only dialogue should be with himself, in his head. I'd be down with showing flashbacks if they want Walt in this, but perhaps moments in BB or scenes that weren't shown on screen that can shed light on or inform previous scenes.
Exactly. He literally says it himself
walts not really the victim. I'm interested to see where they go with Jesse
I'm half expecting this to end with a very Memento-esque slow fade to black and white as we see it transition into the "flash forward" scenes from Better Call Saul.
Here's hoping it's its own self contained narrative about Jesse on the run and trying to start a new life with Brock.
Here's hoping it's its own self contained narrative about Jesse on the run and trying to start a new life with Brock.
Last I checked, Jesse is a grown ass man who was already kicked out of his house by his loving, and apparently perfectly normal, parents for his bad behavior and drug dealing. Jesse isn't some helpless victim of Walt's actions. He pushed Walt early on to cook just as much as Walter pushed him once he saw his talent.
Jesse was a selfish little prick, but he was one that at least had a conscience, unlike Walt.
You can be a selfish prick and still be a victim. Before the first season is even over Walt is manipulating Jesse into more and more dangerous behavior than Jesse is comfortable with, which he constantly advises Walt against.
Jesse is a kid in his early 20s, who isn't super gifted with common sense, being a rebellious problem child who was pretty obviously shunned by his "loving" parents in favor of his prodigy little brother.
Walt is a fucking ubermensch who is ridiculously gifted in the art of manipulation and deceit, and he absolutely took advantage of Jesse's naivete and desire for some kind of father figure to get Jesse to do unthinkable things he never would have done otherwise. Acting like Pinkman deserved everything that happened to him because "he's a grown ass man" is ridiculously reductive. Smarter, older people take advantage of younger, less experienced people all the time.
Jesse may not have started the show as a victim, but he sure as shit ended up one long before the ending. It was an absolutely abusive relationship in which Walt was the abuser.
So, not a kid.
We know this isn't true as his brother tells him all they ever talk about is Jesse.
Yes, Walter is manipulative. But again, Jesse is a grown ass man. He could've stopped at any point. There was a time where Walt stopped and Jesse kept cooking using his recipe which angered Walt's ego. Who was pressuring Jesse to cook by himself then? Did Jesse "deserve" everything that happened to him? I don't know if that's a word that can ever be used appropriately, does on deserve anything? But, what happened to Jesse was almost entirely his fault and no one else's. At what point does he take responsibility?
This might rankle some folks, but people in their early 20s really are still kids. As for Jesse's parents "always talking about him" if you think it's anything other than lamenting what a disappointment he was, I want to sell you my favorite bridge.
And by the time Jesse decided to start cooking for himself, he was so far into that abusive relationship that him continuing to cook was little more than a chance to regain some of his own agency.
I love the idea some of y'all have, though, that while Walt was able to manipulate, deceive and gaslight very intelligent people like Skyler, Hank, Gus et al for years and years it's the young dude who never even went to community college who should have been smart enough to see through Walt's bullshit. I mean, come on LOL. I get that some people don't like the character but this is just stretching the limits of rationality, here.
No, I do not subscribe to the idea that Jesse is just play-doh that was just molded to do whatever Evil Walt wanted. Fuck that. He's an adult. He has agency. He has to take responsibility for his own actions. Otherwise, why can't Walt get off the hook some? He had cancer, he had a family he needed to care for, his son is disabled, he's got a baby on the way, he get no respect; can't you say society made Heisenberg just as much as he did? No, we know that's some weak sauce bullshit.
Jesse was just as much responsible for everything they did as much as Walt.
Thank goodness for How I Met Your Mother bizarrely, that's the whole reason we got Mike in the first place apparently, as Odenkirk wasn't very available.
No, we can't do that because Walt made it very, very clear exactly how much money he needed to raise, and he got there by early in the second season. Everything after that was just his greed and ego driving him, and he was the driving force behind it, not Jesse.
In the end he even admits he didn't do it for the money, or for his family. He did it because he liked it, because he was good at it and it made him feel important. He flat out admits that all the "I'm doing this for my family" bullshit was exactly that. Even Walt would tell you your attempt to conflate the two is nonsense.
The way you dismiss the concept of abusive relationships and how they affect people's decision making choices is honestly creepy and frustrating. By your logic any woman who stays with a man after the first time he beats her deserves it if she gets beaten again because hey, she's a GROWN ASS WOMAN who can MAKE HER OWN CHOICES and she needs to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.
Sorry, friend, but that's not how abusive relationships work. Walt preyed on Jesse, because he couldn't accomplish what he wanted to without him. He used every trick in the abuser's playbook to keep stringing Jesse along until he was too far in, setting himself up as Jesse's only choice other than death or jail, and now you want to blame Jesse for it. If that's really how you feel, well okay, but I don't see it that way at all and find that attitude just a bit disgusting.
I honestly just want to see the public reaction to Heisenberg's death. A chemist teacher with cancer turned drug dealer who took down Gus/ the neo-nazis group will most likely have some supporters, especially in "these" times XD (obviously BB last took place in 2010 so they cant go too on the nose) .