We know that the people used as sources in media characterise them as friendly. Not friendly 10 years ago.For the sake of argument, even if this disagreement hasn't started as a racist incident, the moment they choke the victim with the knee it became one.
They were Nazis the hatred against non whites is Nazi 101 which defines their nature of association with other people.
We also do not know the level of acquaintance of the victim, they could be friends when they were 9 or so before Nazi happens.
I think that the Danish police is ignoring the fact of the murderers being racists as if they want to toss it under the rug because it makes them uncomfortable.
Yes - do bring in the cops integrity to this and cast it in an American light. That's going to go over just fine (see the post above yours).Imagine thinking a goddamn Nazi killed a black guy and thinking race had nothing to do with it. Maybe he decided to kill him for reasons other than race - But would he kill a white guy over the same disagreement whatever it was? Will he have killed a white person the same way?
And what will the reaction to this crime will be? How will other neo-nazis react to this? can you ignore the 500 metric tons of racial context here?
And doing this while vehemently defending the Danish police - Well you know, it's "ALL cops are bastards", not "All cops, except for the Danish police which is of course very fact based and will not create a narrative that downplays the racism inherent in this crime! - are bastards."
What a fucking hill to die on.
I have no idea about how the suspect makes his decisions - so I can not say one way or the other how race affected this. Neither can you. We can both speculate - that's easy, I just did that on the post you didn't like. I assumed (because that seems likely) that the suspects racism made it worse.
No we are not. However, In a country where police is not supposed to communicate unqualified guesswork to the media we have to accept that given an existing non-race related motive the police is not likely to say "based on a tatoos and post history on social media we assume that this is driven by race".Having a nazi tattoo and being a white supremacist isn't evidence enough eh? No evidence at all that dudes racial beliefs might have resulted in him going a bit too far where he might not have with someone who was white?
That's what we doing now? Giving racists the benefit of the doubt?
Also - he killed a guy, he didn't "go a bit too far". As for the role of race the police is well aware that it may play a secondary role (presumably in degree of violence etc.) that is clear from the media articles I have read. In light of this they still maintain that the primary factor was a disagreement that people around the victim/suspects knew about.
I am not backing white supremacists. I'm communicating that inference like you illustrate here is not going to be communicated by the Danish police when they have evidence that points to a pre-existing disagreement.I'm gonna flip it to your logic when you mentioned rape but do most rape or sexual assault victims not know their rapist? Were they not friendly at one point?
Please stop trying to back white supremacists.
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They were friendly sure but the method and his mindset clearly leads to something that was at least race related. That's fucking evidence.
As for the methods and mindset making it clear that the instigating incident was race related I find that to be reductive. That would mean that whatever crime he would commit it would always be race related if the other person was PoC. I find it just as likely that he decided to kill the guy for other reasons and then made it excessively violent with a background in race.