I'm watching this King of Kong movie. Is... is this real life?
To this day I dont know if Billy Mitchell is a ass or if he just likes playing the heel.
To this day I dont know if Billy Mitchell is a ass or if he just likes playing the heel.
Some guy who worked in twin galaxies told us here that the movie was heavily edited to make Billy the heel, and in the middle of the production he learned about that he decided to go all in with it
Brian Kuh is my favorite. A friend of mine told me he is very secretive, got fired from gamestop because he kept advertising himself as the guy from King of Kong, and also his apartment was built into a rock quarry, so one of his apartment walls was a boulder. That is a 100% true story.I mean, every new person in this documentary is more outlandish than the next. Who are these people.
Edit: This is making my soul cringe.
What doc would that be?
Some guy who worked in twin galaxies told us here that the movie was heavily edited to make Billy the heel, and in the middle of the production he learned about that he decided to go all in with it
I mean, every new person in this documentary is more outlandish than the next. Who are these people.
Edit: This is making my soul cringe.
The ref dude always got me, dude took his job really seriously
Walter started the company. He worked hand in hand with Guiness World Records. He's a dear friend of mine. he does take it very seriously.The ref dude always got me, dude took his job really seriously
TG wasn't always as it is now. When I partnered with Nintendo and Microsoft there, they trusted us implicitly. While there's no denying some of the oldest scores are erroneous, the knowledge that the refs had when I was there was astounding.Do we trust Twin Galaxies at this point?
I've heard an explanation of Mitchell's infamous tie though. He claims to have started wearing it in response to a Canadian competitor who wore a Canadian flag cape.
After watching Dwayne Richard's videos it seems as though there is some evidence that Billy was the/a founder of the company as well. Do you know any details behind this? Billy funding TG/Walter would actually explain a lot of why some of these efforts to falsify records happened.Walter started the company. He worked hand in hand with Guiness World Records. He's a dear friend of mine. he does take it very seriously.
For sure, he is the true king of Kong.
The new world record is insane.
His record tape could be spliced but I have no doubt he's capable. Most people can't even make it to 200,000 points and he's verified as getting close to a million live as well as getting to 750 on his first life.
Billy is legit.
They make guys like Tom Cruise and most other sub 6' male actors look tall every movie.If the Hobbit can make Gandalf look like he's towering over the hobbits then a King of Kong movie can make Peter Dinklage large and in charge. I'd also say his height isn't his most distinctive feature lol.
I know Steve and his wife. She is extremely supportive. The movie makes it look as though it all took place in a short period of time, but it took place over a pretty lengthy period.I always felt Wiebe and Mitchell came off terribly in that doc. Wiebe seemed like he abandoned his wife and kids trying for a Donkey Kong high score, and Mitchell is well... Billy Mitchell.
I know Steve and his wife. She is extremely supportive. The movie makes it look as though it all took place in a short period of time, but it took place over a pretty lengthy period.
Walter Day never really came off well in that documentary, either. It just seemed like he was hopelessly under the spell of Billy and didn't want anyone threatening the regulars. And yes, I know the documentary was made a certain way so we'd think that, but it always made me doubt TG as a whole.
It's important to note that while Walter is credited with and shown in the film as THE TG guy, he has always had around 10-15 people on staff, and those on staff were located all over the world. There wasn't ever a central location other than the arcade and the office now in California.He seems well intentioned (I think the film actually pushed this angle to a degree) but between the film and what's happened at his company there seems to be an abundance of evidence that he actually sucks.
Apollo Legend did another video after his Todd Rogers saga, now compiling information and interviews about Billy.
That East Side Dave Show footage is cringe as fuck
From what I get it's how the arcade boards actually render that makes it so clear.I don't want to defend Billy, but the biggest claim here is the missing "ghosting" of his recordings right?
So, is it even proven that every single arcade board on different monitors or TVs does this "ghosting"?
It's not fair to judge an entire organization based on the actions of a few. Many of the scores in the database were once thought to be impossible but were later cracked and when a lot of these scores were set the world wasn't so connected.
I don't want to defend Billy, but the biggest claim here is the missing "ghosting" of his recordings right?
So, is it even proven that every single arcade board on different monitors or TVs does this "ghosting"?
It's not the ghosting, it's what's visible for each frame while the stage is being built. Because of how an actual DK machine renders to screen, footage from an actual machine and MAME is very different, and Billy's footage is 100% identical to how MAME (from that era) renders.
Someone made super awesome gifs of the actual technicalities of how an arcade machine and MAME render. It really explains how/why things appear as they do. An actual arcade machine scans the VRAM from left to right while it is being written to. MAME takes a single snapshot of what has been written to VRAM at every frame. It produces a different render:
also if i'm correct there was no way to capture the footage the way billy did off of the arcade with the equipment he used. they tested it and could not reproduce the results.That's a great gif. Really explains the glitch and how Billy's con was detected.
For those not seeing it amidst the jumble of pixels, the arcade machine builds the level somewhat haphazardly (top-left screen). And then an active "sweep" (that pink line) takes the work-in-progress construction and transfers it to the arcade screen (top-right screen). MAME builds the level in the exact same haphazard way (bottom-left screen), but MAME waits a moment and then takes a fullscreen picture of the progress, then waits and takes another picture, and so on, as it sends those pictures to the computer monitor (bottom-right screen).
Billy Mitchell's VHS tape, of the high score game which he played behind closed doors but was which he insists was played on the arcade machine which he owns and not on MAME where it would be entirely possible to cheat... does not build it's picture with a side-to-side sweep, it builds it's picture with a series of snapshots, as only MAME can produce.
This flaw in MAME's emulation was not known at the time but it is known now. Oops, Billy Mitchell's old VHS sample was caught by retroactive drug testing. And his tape was not tampered with, as he's right there on camcorder footage of his reveal, passing MAME footage off as the real thing. There was no reason for Billy Mitchell to be using MAME and lying about it, besides cheating. Billy Mitchell is a cheater.
Potential media attention and small paydays.Serious question. What do people have to gain from faking high scores and speedruns?
Part of this is saddening to me because a lot of people, myself included, found his appearance and the way he presented himself as pretentious and arrogant and it's not hard to associate him with the stereotypical used-car salesman. The fact that his records were, during this time, considered legitimate lend him some credence and proved those that judged him by his appearance wrong and I think there is value in people who do that. It seemed like he wasn't just all-talk.
It's sad that he proved our suspicions were right and its sad that he helped delegitimize, or at least ridicule, competitive gaming.
About how much money do people make off of this stuff? I can understand if someone is a streamer with a huge following but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
As much of a prick as he is, dont forget he's still super talented and did achieve the perfect pac man game. He just got greedy and lazy.