This is a chance to see what actually matters.
Hint: not the fucking donors.
Oh donors matter. Don't kid yourself. Pressure from base might overcome that given all the attention this is getting.
This is a chance to see what actually matters.
Hint: not the fucking donors.
Oh donors matter. Don't kid yourself. Pressure from base might overcome that given all the attention this is getting.
I just hope Democrats don't give a fucking inch.
We shall see.
They'll start getting calls from rich donors.
The side demanding something always loses in these shutdowns, Democrats have no reason to flinch. Willingness to pass a clean bill rebuts all criticism
Expecting them to cave in the near future because nothing good ever really happens.
remember, Dems are wimps and always cave. now I don't know much about politics, but I'm obviously right about this. if not, how can you explain Dems being unable to stop anything for the past two years? exactly.Are you for real right now? Like are you actually serious with this?
Is this the narrative? Dems, in control of the House, are going to give Trump his wall? In a spending bill that has bipartisan support?
I just can't with some of you people. This is Trump-supporter level double think right here.
remember, Dems are wimps and always cave. now I don't know much about politics, but I'm obviously right about this. if not, how can you explain Dems being unable to stop anything for the past two years? exactly.
looks like I won't be voting again this year
This isn't veto proof is it as the vote seems to be along party lines. Need a veto proof passage from both chambers of congress.
McConell won't even bring it to the floor.
He's gotta protect Trump at all costs.
Because they just got control of congress this year, they didn't have the majority while Trump's been in office.
Which is a self fulfilling prophecy.
remember, Dems are wimps and always cave. now I don't know much about politics, but I'm obviously right about this. if not, how can you explain Dems being unable to stop anything for the past two years? exactly.
looks like I won't be voting again this year
In their desperation they turned to a man they didn't quite understand.how wild is it that Republicans are risking everything over nothing because Ann Coulter was mad on twitter
It makes no sense. even if he got the funding it would still be something Anne Coulter would hate because a concrete wall is infeasible and that's what he hyped up.Don't give shit for the wall. That is the only thing trump ran on it was his entire campaign. Don't give him that ever.
McConell will kneel in front of Pelosi and beg for a wall funding. She will say no.
I really need this shutdown to end...I need my check. Stop holding my life hostage, asshats.
I'll hold on for the dems to pull through, but im feeling stressed.
McConell will kneel in front of Pelosi and beg for a wall funding. She will say no.
Funny thing is Trump grants them power but also limits them. I ahve no doubt in my mind that if Cruz was in office they would have gotten the repealIn their desperation they turned to a man they didn't quite understand.
Trump is completely unpredictable and unstable which means he's uncontrollable because he believes whatever he hears and he runs on emotions and ego.
This is what they fully embraced though, knowing full well they were leaving themselves open to the whims of a mad man. But hey, he could line their pockets, and maybe take away the money from the poor minorities. They had full control of the government after all. It was a risk they were willing to take.
I'm not entirely sure about this. Giving Trump his stupid money that ultimately won't be spent on a wall anyway, is really meaningless, depending on what Dems can get in return. You think MAGAheads are going to be thrilled about DACA being taken care of even for this money? I don't. It will be a bittersweet victory. And something like that may never get taken care of if not for right now when Trump is desperate.McConell will kneel in front of Pelosi and beg for a wall funding. She will say no.
Stop thinking about the magaheads.I'm not entirely sure about this. Giving Trump his stupid money that ultimately won't be spent on a wall anyway, is really meaningless, depending on what Dems can get in return. You think MAGAheads are going to be thrilled about DACA being taken care of even for this money? I don't. It will be a bittersweet victory. And something like that may never get taken care of if not for right now when Trump is desperate.
That said, Pelosi will undoubtedly be telling Trump no to any funding for a wall, for now.
Oh absolutely. Trump was the worst thing for their agenda, but, he cultivated an almost cult like following around him. They are beholden to Trump and don't want to risk pissing off Trump supporters. All they can do at this point is keep supporting Trump and pray they hold on to the Senate and Presidency in 2020 because as soon as they turn on Trump, that's over (though it is already IMO).Funny thing is Trump grants them power but also limits them. I ahve no doubt in my mind that if Cruz was in office they would have gotten the repeal
You completely missed my point. I was saying exactly that. Don't care about the stupid MAGAheads (or Trump getting a victory here), they aren't getting a win out of this anyway.
Don't forget the Team Rocket like Freedom CaucusOh absolutely. Trump was the worst thing for their agenda, but, he cultivated an almost cult like following around him. They are beholden to Trump and don't want to risk pissing off Trump supporters. All they can do at this point is keep supporting Trump and pray they hold on to the Senate and Presidency in 2020 because as soon as they turn on Trump, that's over (though it is already IMO).
its funnyhow deflated the wall arguments got when people saw that weird slotted metal bar designIt makes no sense. even if he got the funding it would still be something Anne Coulter would hate because a concrete wall is infeasible and that's what he hyped up.
I really need this shutdown to end...I need my check. Stop holding my life hostage, asshats.
I'll hold on for the dems to pull through, but im feeling stressed.
A group risen out of the GOP hate for Obama. The hate, and let's be honest, racism, for Obama gave the GOP the uncompromising FC and ultimately Donald Trump. Hope it was worth it.
Thanks man. I'm happy the dems are pushing. They should not back down. Keep the pressure going guys. Just know I'll be fucking ecstatic at the end lol.
Can't imagine not being paid because the President got his fee fees hurt by Fox News Pundits.Thanks man. I'm happy the dems are pushing. They should not back down. Keep the pressure going guys. Just know I'll be fucking ecstatic at the end lol.
There's truth to this. Never trust Republicans they are the scorpions that will always look for a way to sting you. But, Pelosi also knows what she is doing, thank the Lord.I don't think the dems can trust any promises from this administration so they should never bargain over this wall money. The only 'win' Trump should get here is opening the gov't back up. He can spin it however he wants to his base, but it's time to end the tantrum.
Gotcha. Sorry, took it the wrong way. I'm tired of hearing about 'em.You completely missed my point. I was saying exactly that. Don't care about the stupid MAGAheads (or Trump getting a victory here), they aren't getting a win out of this anyway.
There's truth to this. Never trust Republicans they are the scorpions that will always look for a way to sting you. But, Pelosi also knows what she is doing, thank the Lord.