Yeah, definitely weird to see. I think the open world craze drew in a lot of non Zelda fans in a way that Odyssey couldn't replicate. It will be interesting to see how BotW 2 compares to the next 3D Mario game.
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Biggest IP Jump for Nintendo: BotW, 30mil Seller???
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Yeah, definitely weird to see. I think the open world craze drew in a lot of non Zelda fans in a way that Odyssey couldn't replicate. It will be interesting to see how BotW 2 compares to the next 3D Mario game.
Can anyone provide an example of a single player sequel cutting off the legs of its predecessor on the same console?
For reference BOTW's legs are increasing over time currently. Meaning the game sold more last FY than it did the previous FY. I'm not sure if a sequel would be able to hinder those legs.
For reference BOTW's legs are increasing over time currently. Meaning the game sold more last FY than it did the previous FY. I'm not sure if a sequel would be able to hinder those legs.
The thing is, single player games don't have legs like BotW. Basically nothing outside of Rockstar games (which have become once-a-generation or less franchises) and Mario Kart (also once a generation) does, and even then it's only a rough match because there's a lot of different behaviors to the sales. So there's not really data points available to make any sort of accurate judgment what happens. BotW is a highly anomalous run in a lot of ways.
I will say though, it's nature as an open world, systems based game that's not plot heavy means it theoretically is "replaceable". This isn't a game people need to experience the story, so if BotW2 comes out and from a mechanical standpoint it's judged to be "BotW but better", there's not going to be a whole lot of need to go back to the mechanically inferior predecessor. So my belief is it's going to be highly dependent on how positively the new game is judged and how similar they are.
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Terraria Crosses 30 Million in Sales, Update Brings Console Versions to Content Parity With PC - PlayStation LifeStyle
New Terraria update has gone live on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, bringing these versions to content parity with PC. The title has also reached 30 units in sales.
www.playstationlifestyle.net
There is no way it doesn't hit 25m lol
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BOTW will become a player's choice/selects title in a year or two, and continue selling decently possibly adding 1.5m units a year on average until 2022-2023 then it could still keep selling past that point when Switch 2 it out , so I think 25 million is possible. Not 30.
It will be a huge jump for sure.
It will be a huge jump for sure.
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CAnt wait to see in 3 years when the bar goes even higher and dwarf the others lolZelda's increase this gen can't be overstated:
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If it gets a permanent 30$ or more price cut in Switch's 5th or 6th year it might. I'm gonna say 27.5 million if they don't.
Does 25 million include WiiU?
That is still an insane number consider it's basically a single player game that's only on one system. Its one of my favorite games of all time but I would not have thought it would appeal to a wide enough audience on a single system to get those numbers.
That is still an insane number consider it's basically a single player game that's only on one system. Its one of my favorite games of all time but I would not have thought it would appeal to a wide enough audience on a single system to get those numbers.
Yeah it'll definitely depend on what BotW 2 is. If it's more focused on underground exploration or traditional dungeons or something different enough from the first game it shouldn't really kill the sales of it all that much.
Nintendo really doesn't often put out "samey" sequels in that way. Especially in the Zelda series. Did Majora's Mask prevent OoT from selling?
Yeah...people are acting as if BotW 2 will be the to BotW like Fifa 20 to Fifa 19.
BOTW Calendar Year Sales:
2017: 6,700
2018: 4,980 (-25.7%)
2019: 4,660 (-6.4%)
2020: 1,070 (-1.8% YoY so far)
Excluding the Jan-Mar quarter each year (this removes the impact of the huge launch quarter of 2,760). So Apr-Dec sales yearly:
2017: 3,940
2018: 3,200 (-18.8%)
2019: 3,570 (+11.6%)
There's no way this is going to go sub 25M - it doesn't make reasonable sense short of it falling off a cliff today.
In order for it to miss 20M this year, it would have to drop under 2,590 for the Apr-Dec period for 2020. That means a greater than 27.5% drop-off for the rest of the year despite the Jan-Mar period holding better than the past two years (its only down 1.8%). More realistically it should do another 3-3.5M for the remainder of the calendar year, putting it at 20.5-21.0M by Dec this year. Following that, it would have to fall under a 2M per year average from 2021-2024 in order to miss 30M. Missing 25M seems impossible.
Then there's an additional 1.61M from the Wii U version to account for (as of Dec 2017).
I think it crosses 25M by holiday 2021 and legs its way past 30M w/discounts/bundles/special editions/etc. There is no sense in a sequel cutting off its legs - that happens with GAAS/MP titles. A shiny new MK9 is a better option for a brand new Switch owner than MK8D, but a new Switch owner is not going to gravitate to BOTW2 before BOTW1 - it's not the same kind of experience.
2017: 6,700
2018: 4,980 (-25.7%)
2019: 4,660 (-6.4%)
2020: 1,070 (-1.8% YoY so far)
Excluding the Jan-Mar quarter each year (this removes the impact of the huge launch quarter of 2,760). So Apr-Dec sales yearly:
2017: 3,940
2018: 3,200 (-18.8%)
2019: 3,570 (+11.6%)
There's no way this is going to go sub 25M - it doesn't make reasonable sense short of it falling off a cliff today.
In order for it to miss 20M this year, it would have to drop under 2,590 for the Apr-Dec period for 2020. That means a greater than 27.5% drop-off for the rest of the year despite the Jan-Mar period holding better than the past two years (its only down 1.8%). More realistically it should do another 3-3.5M for the remainder of the calendar year, putting it at 20.5-21.0M by Dec this year. Following that, it would have to fall under a 2M per year average from 2021-2024 in order to miss 30M. Missing 25M seems impossible.
Then there's an additional 1.61M from the Wii U version to account for (as of Dec 2017).
I think it crosses 25M by holiday 2021 and legs its way past 30M w/discounts/bundles/special editions/etc. There is no sense in a sequel cutting off its legs - that happens with GAAS/MP titles. A shiny new MK9 is a better option for a brand new Switch owner than MK8D, but a new Switch owner is not going to gravitate to BOTW2 before BOTW1 - it's not the same kind of experience.
I remember they were saying that they would have broke even with 2m units. Of course these shouldn't be taken as expectations of how the game would sold.
30mil is not impossible but 25mil is inevitable. Especially once the hype for the sequel ramps up.