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Biden is live right now at at North Carolina Rally gives a pretty different vibe compared to yesterday
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That was the case in 2020 and Biden did win that.
If anything, Biden doesn't have this in the bag, so it's not complacency.
I feel like this is something you could have posted verbatim four years ago, except Trump still lost there
As someone that is not from the US. This election does worry me, especially with how the debate came across last night (for many reasons).
Many places in the rest of the world seem to "import" American politics these days and the right of populist, far right politicians is no coincidence imo. Trump was the start of a movement and I fear that it will continue further if he gets into power again. The stripping away of rights and a push to a more authoritarian government and a strong arm of Christian fundamentalism.
It's really concerning, especially when such important issues like climate change, cost of living & more and being brushed aside in favour of manufacturing outrage to the LGBTQ community.
I really hope Biden still wins.
Many places in the rest of the world seem to "import" American politics these days and the right of populist, far right politicians is no coincidence imo. Trump was the start of a movement and I fear that it will continue further if he gets into power again. The stripping away of rights and a push to a more authoritarian government and a strong arm of Christian fundamentalism.
It's really concerning, especially when such important issues like climate change, cost of living & more and being brushed aside in favour of manufacturing outrage to the LGBTQ community.
I really hope Biden still wins.
If he can be like this more often over the next few months then I don't think it's completely over but the fact remains that last night did a lot of damage.
It was already going to be a tight race and a setback like this right off the bat is really tough.
It was already going to be a tight race and a setback like this right off the bat is really tough.
This is a rebuttal that doesn't address anything that poster said. What do waffles have to do with a cold and speech impediment ? What does a speech impediment and cold impacting speech have to do with the situation room?
I guess in a world where the answer to child care is deport undocumented immigrants it makes sense.
And you didn't feel that way 4 years ago? Every one of these from now on will be close because the country is that divided. There's still a chance for comedy amongst all this drama. Trump drops dead of old age before Biden in the coming months.
I am mocking Biden's frustratingly sudden lucidity and coherence at Waffle House immediately after the debate
And on your last point sure, let's talk also talk about Biden's answer on abortion
The condescension and cope is off the charts. Polling has shown that over 70% of the people think he's too old. 50 million people saw proof of that last night, but of course it's the fault of the people who have been pointing this out for at least 2 years and not the fault of the completely incompetent DNC/Democratic Party. Can't wait to see how the liberals somehow blame his defeat on the left again.
Trump is so awful that he could still lose, but that performance from Biden last night just made it so much harder. I guess I'm glad people have finally woken up to what an awful candidate he is, but that ship has sailed.
That's great! This Biden should get a time-machine, go back in time, and do the Debate instead of last night's Biden.
I mean, real talk, Biden's press team should put out a statement allowing usage of this presser for free universally, since CNN put up such a stink about using clips from the actual debate without a high buy in.
He was just like this after the debate with his speech! I don't know what the fuck happened last night but damn; if he showed up to the debate like thishe would've absolutely crushed trump.
This at the very least should stem some of the dooming last night.
This at the very least should stem some of the dooming last night.
I think the problem last night was that Biden was incoherent and mumbling things like "we finally defeated Medicare..." before trailing off into a fugue state. He's too old and no one in their right mind thinks this guy would be able to see out another 4 years. If Trump was not the GOP nominee, no one would be making any excuses for Biden. Period. This was an avoidable problem, but the usual mix of hubris and utter ineptitude from the neoliberal center right corporate assholes that run the Dem party have screwed us all yet again.
This is anecdotal obviously but I will say this - I worked as an intern for Obama in 08, and then as a field organizer during the healthcare reform push/midterm elections and his reelection campaign in 12. I still keep in contact with a bunch of people that still work in and around DC and my group chats are a fucking eulogy right now. People with skin in the game think we're cooked. The things that are not being said publicly right now by people in the party cannot be understated. And when I compare what literal political operatives are saying privately to people here going "oh but his speech impediment" - like, it doesn't matter. It's literally fucking crazy. I need to get off the internet for a bit.
This is the Biden that needs to show up constantly now. I have no idea how the difference can be so sharp, but he needs to really show he can still do off-the-cuff statements that stick to the heart of the matter in every platform possible. Get some savvy influencers to spread the word and get wild.
Maybe he just feels better today after a night's sleep. He has a cold.
Agreed. This is a problem Biden has had his whole term.
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They tweaked the drug cocktail for this event just right.
The constant barrage from Trump and poor moderation prolly just scrambled his thoughts last night. Trump and cnn knew what they was doing, and its fucked up.
This helps my anxiety a little bit, but it's like why couldnt we have this last night. He honestly didn't need to give any detailed answers, just generic responses and look coherent and competent. Then in his closing response just call Trump a rapist and convicted felon and it would've been a wrap. He has to get out and keep showing this Joe so last night gets lost in the news cycle. I fucking hate our presedential campaigns are so long and are all about optics and vibes
Go ahead & travel over to that parallel timeline & find out for us.
It was late at night. I am not trying to be snarky or cute, but dude is old and that timeslot did him no favors
What is the point of talking about these multiverse scenarios that literally can't be proven either way.
That 'awful candidate' handily won the dem primaries four years ago, and got the most votes for a president ever four in a general election. And incumbency is a well known advantage. And he beat Trump, Hilary didn't.
It's not some great mystery why the DNC decided to stick with him, nor is it entirely illogical to do so.
He has definitely aged in a way that might make people less excited to vote for him, but how do you quantify how that counteracts the good things he has going for him?
And those successes above might because a very large part of Americans just fucking hate Trump, so they voted against him.
But...that doesn't really factor in. Cause he's still facing Trump.
Didn't the WH doc confirm he has a cold?
He is definitely not as sharp as he was 4 years ago but if he can get out there more do stuff like this people will forget.
He is definitely not as sharp as he was 4 years ago but if he can get out there more do stuff like this people will forget.
I'm 30 with a fresh cold right now and I've been zombified for about two days now. Could easily see it being a factor at play for someone his age.
That and just generally being in so much bodily discomfort that you stop caring how it looks to those around you, which I've personally experienced a lot lately with carpal tunnel at work.
Next debate, after every trump answer, they check the answer in real time and don't move on until its pointed out that he's a fucking liar.
do it for both candidates.
do it for both candidates.
I'm 41 and have a cold since yesterday and fever too since today and I feel like driven over.
