Making MJ just into Louis Lane light is one of the things I like less about the PlayStation games. Especially when part 2 then decides she also needs to be action hero because how else can you show a character strong
Best character reboot of the last 20 years?
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Yeah, B.J. Blazkowicz is the real answer here, but I'll also throw a mention for Francis York Morgan to Francis Zach Morgan. I didn't know where I expected that character to be at in life when I first started up A Blessing in Disguise but it sure as hell wasn't that.
They could both add the kind of self-serious lore and mythology that folks expect from a lot of modern AAA storytelling while also subverting it and celebrating the dumb blunt simplicity of the franchise by having the "chosen one" be a big, silent brute with a fuck-off gun who doesn't have time or patience for all your bullshit prophecies.
Isn't that kind of the point though? I haven't played the follow up so they may have narratively overplayed their hand but from what I remember of Doom 2016 I found it a pretty clever way to kind of have their cake and eat it too in a remake.
They could both add the kind of self-serious lore and mythology that folks expect from a lot of modern AAA storytelling while also subverting it and celebrating the dumb blunt simplicity of the franchise by having the "chosen one" be a big, silent brute with a fuck-off gun who doesn't have time or patience for all your bullshit prophecies.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-6g5ms4jcY
nevermind the mass war mongering years ago, HE IS FUCKING BAAAAAAAACCK
2016 straddled the line very well!
Eternal gets extremely out in the weeds in a very stupid way.
Ah, yeah, like I said, haven't gotten around to that one yet, shame they couldn't maintain that pitch perfect tone the first had.
BJ or Kratos for me.
I would also argue how they changed Isaac in the DeadSpace remake was such an improvement of the character and added more emotion to moments though it doesn't neatly fit with this thought exercise. Really bummed about the game not being a hit.
I would also argue how they changed Isaac in the DeadSpace remake was such an improvement of the character and added more emotion to moments though it doesn't neatly fit with this thought exercise. Really bummed about the game not being a hit.
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Oh hell no. Gross.
Anyway my vote is RE4's Ashley.
And I don't really mean her design. She just has more agency and her voice acting elevates her so much. I like OG Ashley just fine but I love Remake Ashley.
For sure. I assumed she was just going to be a Macguffin just like the first game, but by the end of it I was demanding a buddy cop story with Ashley as Leon's freshly minted Secret Service apprentice
From asking for overtime to flirting with the idea of breaking his buddy cop. Definitely an improvement.
i guess to contribute to OP Kratos comes off the top of my head
i don't really get the doomslayer/doomguy discourse (well, i kinda do but) it could easily fit within the "mythos" or vibe of doom 1&2. like, as lore heavy as Eternal is most of that stuff can be ignored, and it's criticized as being too serious. but like, I don't think it's that serious at all unless you really want to dork out over it, and in which that case id made an outlet for that kind of player, and another for whom just want to blow shit up
and from my knowledge about "Doom 4" they tried to do the humble mercenary against all odds thing but it just tonally didn't work out at all, or if it did it's like oh here you go another space marine FPS with Doom painting. and it seemed to take itself WAY more serious than 2016 or Eternal. it's worth considering the other side of the coin how things could've gone for Doom if they went that way
i don't really get the doomslayer/doomguy discourse (well, i kinda do but) it could easily fit within the "mythos" or vibe of doom 1&2. like, as lore heavy as Eternal is most of that stuff can be ignored, and it's criticized as being too serious. but like, I don't think it's that serious at all unless you really want to dork out over it, and in which that case id made an outlet for that kind of player, and another for whom just want to blow shit up
and from my knowledge about "Doom 4" they tried to do the humble mercenary against all odds thing but it just tonally didn't work out at all, or if it did it's like oh here you go another space marine FPS with Doom painting. and it seemed to take itself WAY more serious than 2016 or Eternal. it's worth considering the other side of the coin how things could've gone for Doom if they went that way
Reptile in MK1.
He's been various incarnations of a lizard man since MK4 and for the first time in ~25+ years (in canon), they bring back a human form AND lizard with a tail form and it works so so well.
View: https://youtu.be/M39CVZt6uu0?feature=shared
He's been various incarnations of a lizard man since MK4 and for the first time in ~25+ years (in canon), they bring back a human form AND lizard with a tail form and it works so so well.
View: https://youtu.be/M39CVZt6uu0?feature=shared
Now if I could just find this trailer music literally anywhere else on the internet.
But yes, they finally did Reptile some justice and I'm here for it.
It is good. Wonder if it's an alternate/unused Casey Edwards track (has Cage Mansion vibes)
Some have said it already, but the redesigns of Pit, Palutena, Medusa, and every other recurring character from Kid Icarus are simply incredible.
Also, green is my favorite color, so I take this personal!
Hell no. No green tunic. No funny hat. Not left-handed. Awful.
Also, green is my favorite color, so I take this personal!
It's neat that Kratos retells this episode from his past to Mimir in Ragnarok Valhalla. Good perspective and tasteful reference to old game, that DLC.
Echoing the Reptile comments. Baraka, Johnny, and eventually Liu Kang have been done justice in modern Mortal Kombat games as well.
And while it's minor compared to the more story-heavy games mentioned here, I'd like to shout out Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled for leveraging the passage of time and technology to give some personality glow-ups to folks like Tawna, the ex-Trophy Girls, and Rilla Roo.
And while it's minor compared to the more story-heavy games mentioned here, I'd like to shout out Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled for leveraging the passage of time and technology to give some personality glow-ups to folks like Tawna, the ex-Trophy Girls, and Rilla Roo.
Agreed. I like eternal and I'm so excited for the new one but 2016 was just the absolute perfect balance.
Yes.
At the VERY VERY least, Link needs to keep the fashion. 30 years of a dorky tunic is too much.
People are listing things like Norse Kratos. That's not a reboot! That's character development
the kid Icarus Uprising cast and new Ashley are better examples
the kid Icarus Uprising cast and new Ashley are better examples
Green tunic Link w/ pink hair from LttP > Blue tunic Link > green tunic Link with boring blonde hair
hell yeah
Jack from Stranger of Paradise.
Also hell yeah. Remake Carlos is top tier.In this same realm:
Carlos from RE3.
For me, agree with the FF7 cast. I wouldn't consider them "reboots", but the expansion of their characters from a messy translation script from 97, to their remake glow ups just feels good. I feel like they are still "themselves" but very much expanded on.
Though, I would say Barret is a bit closer to a "reboot" in the sense that they massively turned down the "Mr. T" stereotype with him, and he's just a good damn guy now. I love Remake Barret so much.
Though, I would say Barret is a bit closer to a "reboot" in the sense that they massively turned down the "Mr. T" stereotype with him, and he's just a good damn guy now. I love Remake Barret so much.
Gonna be honest, I like original palutena moreSome have said it already, but the redesigns of Pit, Palutena, Medusa, and every other recurring character from Kid Icarus are simply incredible.
Hell no. No green tunic. No funny hat. Not left-handed. Awful.
Also, green is my favorite color, so I take this personal!
Funnily enough this is a similar reboot to the Doomguy.
We've gone through a nameless husk meant to be the player's avatar to a food loving goof with insecurities and a sense of purpose. There's a reason why the fan creation scene has exploded around him and Zelda.
mute thread
I'll be honest, this is the only video game character I've legit had a crush on. Like I played the PSP version of PlayStation All-Stars more than I should have because he had a shirtless costume. No clue why and hasn't happened again but here we are lol.
Too bad Nintendo abandoned them on the 3DS.
De gustibus...
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Like the Ice Climbers...
Why we never got a Switch sequel and/or remaster, Sakurai?
