Is this where we are at? "THE Neo Nazi and Bernie Sanders, a Jewish person, would get along." From a mod no less?Richard Spencer could lend an endorsement at this point and it wouldn't be a conflict of interest.
We're so fucked in the general.
Is this where we are at? "THE Neo Nazi and Bernie Sanders, a Jewish person, would get along." From a mod no less?Richard Spencer could lend an endorsement at this point and it wouldn't be a conflict of interest.
What's this anti-semitic shit? Do better.Richard Spencer could lend an endorsement at this point and it wouldn't be a conflict of interest.
i didn't say anything pro-Biden, but thanks for proving my point with the whataboutismBiden was close friends with segregationist Strom Thurmond lol
you could have stopped here
so if david duke had the audience and reach of joe rogan you'd be cool with it
I don't know why this is difficult to understand. If it still results in the elimination of existing capitalist structurees, then yes, I'll be nice to the capitalists.
Bernie is running an election. He needs votes. It does not benefit him to antagonize to potential voters, even if those people suck.
I, however, can and will criticize Rogan however much I want because I don't have the platform that the actual candidate has. I will not move the needle and can stand firm against bullshit.Your response is really missing the forest for the trees.
Is this where we are at? "THE Neo Nazi and Bernie Sanders, a Jewish person, would get along." From a mod no less?
We're so fucked in the general.
You realize Richard Spencer hates black people like me too right? Or is anti-black racism just not a problem for you too?
Are you serious?
Yes Bernie highlighting the endorsement of an extremely popular comedian/podcaster who occasionally says bigoted shit is the same as the support of an open white nationalist with a tiny audience of nazis.Richard Spencer could lend an endorsement at this point and it wouldn't be a conflict of interest.
There are only two candidates who can realistically win the primary, so I assumed you were talking about the racist one.i didn't say anything pro-Biden, but thanks for proving my point with the whataboutism
I'm not going to even comment on the Joe Rogan shit, but I am going to respond to this, because it's a flat out myth that nonetheless keeps being circulated.
Read this entire twitter chain, and then say that again with a straight face. There is a reason Bernie has been lovingly referred to as "the amendment king" for a long while.
so if david duke had the audience and reach of joe rogan you'd be cool with it
because it would help bernie win the primary
like i said
You realize Richard Spencer hates black people like me too right? Or is anti-black racism just not a problem for you too?
Clearly it isn't. You've been shrugging Joe Rogan's off the entire thread.
Did you conveniently ignore my last post??There are only two candidates who can realistically win the primary, so I assumed you were talking about the racist one.
Implying a Nazi like Spencer would be cool with Sanders, a Jew, and that Sanders would be cool with him is pretty gross. Examine the implications of your statement. It's "Jews helped in the concentration camps"-tier.You realize Richard Spencer hates black people like me too right? Or is anti-black racism just not a problem for you too?
Clearly it isn't. You've been shrugging Joe Rogan's off the entire thread.
He still needs to win the primary!!!We aren't fucking shrugging off how much of a shit heel Rogan is, holy fuck. The point being made is that his endorsement can lead to a lot of apolitical viewers towards Bernie, which can help win the Election.
In what? The Dem primary? Lot of independent voters in that group?
I'm not into performance theater or virtue signaling, just sharing a slice of reality with people who are too tucked into their own echo chamber to know better.I'm guessing his problem with your statement is that it was a low effort generalization that serves absolutely zero purpose other than to demonstrate "look how woke I am as a straight white man!". It's weak.
Nope.It's there any evidence that Sanders promised Rogan anything or compromised his values or engaged in bigotry to get this endorsement?
And you believe this just lost him the primary?
i think rogan is the on-ramp that gets you to david duke eventuallyCorrect em if I'm wrong, but saying people would jump to defend Duke implies you think both him Rogan are in the same ballpark in the US political discourse, no?
No but he's absolutely focusing on the wrong demographic by looking ahead to the GE.
How about just not highlighting racists assholes of any degree? Or is some level of racism acceptable for Bernie's coalition?Yes Bernie highlighting the endorsement of an extremely popular comedian/podcaster who occasionally says bigoted shit is the same as the same as the support of an open white nationalist with a tiny audience of nazis.
Yup. It's weird that his campaign is acting like it's already the GE.
i think rogan is the on-ramp that gets you to david duke eventually
Other candidates are also looking ahead to the GE. Thats the whole "Lets get the White Working Class" stuff Biden is banking on afterall. But you're acting like Bernie Sanders is now doing nothing but talking about Joe Rogan.No but he's absolutely focusing on the wrong demographic by looking ahead to the GE.
Some of the reactions here would lead you to believe he's a fucking Grand Wizard.the Idea that Bernie would ever associate with David duke is bananas. He is a Jewish man that lost family in the Holocaust...
I think you are downplaying Rogan's racism.This is as ridiculous as stating Bernie is on the ramp that gets you to Stalin eventually. Heck, i've seen a few people go down this route- doesn't mean anything.
i think rogan is the on-ramp that gets you to david duke eventually
Look, in an ideal world, Bernie would be able to be critical of Rogan's bigotry to his face, transforming both his views and those of his audience at large in the process. We would all love that.He absolutely criticizes capitalists though, like that's his main message.... so you should tweet him to tewll him he's antagonizing voters
(don't do this he should be critical of capitalists,just like he should of bigots)
Exactly! There's some mountains being made of molehills. Rogan is the sort of thing that appeals to my brother and his friends. He's a dumb passive bigot but not a committed white nationalist.Yes Bernie highlighting the endorsement of an extremely popular comedian/podcaster who occasionally says bigoted shit is the same as the support of an open white nationalist with a tiny audience of nazis.
the Idea that Bernie would ever associate with David duke is bananas. He is a Jewish man that lost family in the Holocaust...
No level of racism is remotely acceptable but if the racist asshole (like it or not Rogan is simply just an influential entertainer to many, I doubt much of his audience were even aware of what was posted in this thread) in particular has an amenable audience who can possibly be turned away from racism I'm okay with it. Simply put Rogan is a lot of things to a lot of people.How about just not highlighting racists assholes of any degree? Or is some level of racism acceptable for Bernie's coalition?
i think rogan is the on-ramp that gets you to david duke eventually
So Racist shitheels are fine, just not anti-Jew racist shitheels?
Got it.
actually the premise is that if he did accept those endorsements y'all would be cool with itI don't disagree that Rogan is racist, but the premise here is this is like accepting an endorsement of Spender and Duke now.
That is effectively shrugging off his racism. "Sure he's racist, but--"We aren't fucking shrugging off how much of a shit heel Rogan is, holy fuck. The point being made is that his endorsement can lead to a lot of apolitical viewers towards Bernie, which can help win the Election.
My post is not aimed at Bernie. It's aimed at his fanbase who clearly have a higher threshold than I do for the amount of bigotry they are willing to tolerate on the campaign trail in the pursuit of victory. But fair enough point.Implying a Nazi like Spencer would be cool with Sanders, a Jew, and that Sanders would be cool with him is pretty gross. Examine the implications of your statement. It's "Jews helped in the concentration camps"-tier.
I don't disagree that Rogan is racist, but the premise here is this is like accepting an endorsement of Spender and Duke now.
What?? The WWC is the largest electorate for both sides. It's not about time spent dude.Other candidates are also looking ahead to the GE. Thats the whole "Lets get the White Working Class" stuff Biden is banking on afterall. But you're acting like Bernie Sanders is now doing nothing but talking about Joe Rogan.
Looking at his Twitter feed he's focusing on a ton of Primary friendly things. AOC literally just had a speech promoting him about how it costs money to go to the ER despite having insurance.
Some of the reactions here would lead you to believe he's a fucking Grand Wizard.
Thank you for getting it.actually the premise is that if he did accept those endorsements y'all would be cool with it
Joe Rogan's Podcast is one of the most popular ones out there, to the point where everyone ignored the fucking NEW YORK TIME'S endorsement, while everyone is running around screaming about this one. Its full of impressionable apolitical voters who can be used to obtain victory.What?? The WWC is the largest electorate for both sides. It's not about time spent dude.
Trying to get such marginal, bigoted voting bloc that won't vote in the primary when you're trailing is dumb.
Richard Spencer could lend an endorsement at this point and it wouldn't be a conflict of interest.
IMO the endorsement of 200,000+ Joe Rogans should be regarded as less harmful than the endorsement of a single person who voted for the Iraq War. Or the premier newspaper that pushed it to the masses, for that matter.
I would rather Bernie be endorsed by Joe Rogan than someone who believes Americans should still be dying from preventable illnesses by being uninsured or underinsured, or that gender affirmation shouldn't be a guaranteed facet of healthcare for people who want and need it. How many people in Washington are irredeemable ghouls, and why do we scrutinize their endorsements less than the chimp podcaster?