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ZeroX

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
21,266
Speed Force
Ah that's a shame. Well the storyline must be decent no?
It's okay. About the same as Arrow S1 at the same point of the show, with less of a budget. The world and characters are slowly developing, Alice and Mary are strong.

So far this season I'd rank the shows:

1. Arrow
2. Legends
3. Batwoman
4. The Flash
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99. Supergirl

(Not up to date with Black Lightning, would probably throw Titans S2 at #3 or #4 if we were including it)
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,993
I don't know why anyone thought it was a good idea to take Beth out of the BATCAVE, but I knew she was too good to last in this Gotham. At least they went through with the choice. Maybe having Alice go scorched earth will finally get Kate to start doing what she needed to from the start.
 

Rellyrell28

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
29,068
It's okay. About the same as Arrow S1 at the same point of the show, with less of a budget. The world and characters are slowly developing, Alice and Mary are strong.

So far this season I'd rank the shows:

1. Arrow
2. Legends
3. Batwoman
4. The Flash
.
.
99. Supergirl

(Not up to date with Black Lightning, would probably throw Titans S2 at #3 or #4 if we were including it)
While Black Lightning is my favorite show I'd put it number 2 cause of the amazing season Arrow went out on and there fight scenes are top tier as well.
 

Deleted member 34949

Account closed at user request
Banned
Nov 30, 2017
19,101
Knew Beth wouldn't live, but she was utilized pretty damn well.
Using her as a means to push Kate into that decision (and subsequently cementing Alice going full scorched earth on her) was kinda smart from a writing standpoint.

Wouldn't have thought Batwoman of all things would make the best use of Post Crisis continuity, but here we are.
 

Dr Doom

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,029
What an intense episode. I was rooting for Beth to live but I know it's not to be. However, it gave us Kate saying goodbye to Alice which developed more relationship between the two

That was good acting by Alice.

It was a great episode
 

Skeeter49

I wish Jim Ryan would eat me
Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,297
I hate that Beth died, but that fakeout was so well handled, I can't be mad.
 

TitanicFall

Member
Nov 12, 2017
8,297
Sad episode, but also stupid ending. They could have stayed in the Bat cave indefinitely. No reason at all to leave. They would have found Alice's body eventually and Beth would have been in the clear.
 
May 10, 2018
5,717
Didn't want Beth to die but knew It would happen.

The look on Alice's face after she comes back from the verge of death was some record scratch "you know you fucked up right"?
 

Skeeter49

I wish Jim Ryan would eat me
Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,297
It's funny that they bought up the bat cave being discovered as teh reason they're moving Beth, but the batcave being discovered brings up a lot more concerning issues than just Beth.

And it wasn't discovered, so her being moved was pointless?
 

SilentMike03

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,095
It's funny that they bought up the bat cave being discovered as teh reason they're moving Beth, but the batcave being discovered brings up a lot more concerning issues than just Beth.

And it wasn't discovered, so her being moved was pointless?
It wasn't discovered because they stopped searching once they saw the bike trying to escape.
 

Vito

One Winged Slayer - Formerly Undead Fantasy
Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,131
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mnk

Member
Nov 11, 2017
6,361
It's funny that they bought up the bat cave being discovered as teh reason they're moving Beth, but the batcave being discovered brings up a lot more concerning issues than just Beth.

And it wasn't discovered, so her being moved was pointless?
Haha yeah, like you mean to tell me there's no way to lock the door to the batcave from the inside? lol

Then again given Star Labs and the various Arrow bunkers, it's not actually surprising at all.
 

Reinhard

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,612
Haha yeah, like you mean to tell me there's no way to lock the door to the batcave from the inside? lol

Then again given Star Labs and the various Arrow bunkers, it's not actually surprising at all.
Lol, I was wondering the same, seems stupid if there isn't a means to lock it down. Wasn't the elevator also coded to Kate's fingerprint or something so they wouldn't have been able to use it? The final thing is boy the evil dad can sure teleport fast to wherever he needs to go.
 

mnk

Member
Nov 11, 2017
6,361
Also I thought the Crows were just like a security for hire type of thing. At the very least I know they're not the GCPD and I'm pretty sure they're not a government agency like the FBI, so do they even have the authority to do what they're doing?
 

Eoin

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,104
Also I thought the Crows were just like a security for hire type of thing. At the very least I know they're not the GCPD and I'm pretty sure they're not a government agency like the FBI, so do they even have the authority to do what they're doing?
My impression is that they're contracted by Gotham City to act as citywide private security, so have some of the authority of a police force. I think that's been mentioned a few times, but without any clear detail in terms of how that works and exactly what level of authority they have.
 

WrenchNinja

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,751
Canada
i legit thought Kate was gonna be a dumbass and choose Alice. Glad she chose Beth.

Of course, fate ends up overiding her choice causing more drama with the relationship.
 

milamber182

Member
Dec 15, 2017
7,745
Australia
One of best episodes of the season. Predicted the surgeon twist but not the twist at the end. I thought Beth would survive but start to experience Alice's memories. Maybe the other way around...
 

Freddy=Legend

Drive-in Mutant
Member
Oct 29, 2017
5,136
Really good episode last week. But man, the whole time it kept kinda annoying me that they really needed to get Beth out of Gotham, but Kate never once thinks to ask her superfriends that can fly and/or possess super-speed for a little assist on this one. I know it's the out of sight, out of mind of superhero shows in general. But this one really bugged me. Like, we know they can get in touch with each other pretty easily now. Just ask Kara to fly by for a quick minute & get her out.
 

DangerMouse

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,402
Yeah, that wasn't the outcome I expected from the whole Beth returning thing until it happened. Alice Unleashed.
 

Nemesis121

Member
Nov 3, 2017
13,888
Year 1 Batwoman, so I understand gonna have rookie mistakes, just hoping season 2 we have less of this shit....
 

DangerMouse

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,402
Sophie really took her sweet ass time cutting her loose lol.

It seems like a complete waste of the character, but I will admit it does make a really solid foundation for us knowing that Alice is pretty much irredeemable now.
Yeah, the final thing was Kate so it's a really solid foundation for her villain side escalating.