Just don't both sides us and preach about decorum on resetera when we do.
Just don't both sides us and preach about decorum on resetera when we do.
Truth.
At least in New York State, there are a whole bunch of crimes that can have a "hate crime enhancement" added to the sentence:whats the punishment for stuff like this?
i feel like it should be much higher, whatever it is. IMO just spray painting hate speech should land a person in jail for a significant time, a fine or something just isn't enough.. society as a whole should signal to these fucking cowardly fascists that there is zero tolerance to their crap. if the penalties are basically a slap on the wrist, then this shit gets more and more normalized and soon we are in real trouble..
i wouldn't hesitate for a minute to put a fascist in jail for 5-7 years just for hate speech. and much longer for attempted arsony.
When they go low, go even lower.
Man, the amount of divide in this country is widening by the day. The amount of hatred for people simply living their life and not bothering anyone is especially disturbing.
It is really shocking and dismaying this is going on in general in this country. But to have it happen in a city I have felt built up extra social factors to prevent something on this scale happening so quickly compared to the rest of the country touches a deep nerve for me.
Nobody threw a shoe at that comment?Proud Boys jumped protestors while the NYPD did dick in this city. Our governor Cuomo (curse him) went on to then "both sides" and conflate him receiving a mystery package containing files of the group to Democrats receiving pipe bombs.
The guy who did this is black. And he used to work on initiatives to stop hate crimes.
He is calling for this. He's been calling for violence for years.It's pretty scary for people to ascribe all such crimes to the president. The slightest examination of the case would seem to prove this has nothing to do with Trump. If you have to misrepresent the facts to make your point, how great was your point?
My dudeIt's pretty scary for people to ascribe all such crimes to the president. The slightest examination of the case would seem to prove this has nothing to do with Trump. If you have to misrepresent the facts to make your point, how great was your point?
You sure about that?Absolutely emboldened by Trump and his rhetoric.
Won't see any of you Trump fans on ERA in these threads though. Fucking cowards and douche bags. Eat shit.
Trump didn't invent racism but ignoring the rise post-election of the pro-white or misogynistic attacks in the US is absolutely wrong.It's pretty scary for people to ascribe all such crimes to the president. The slightest examination of the case would seem to prove this has nothing to do with Trump. If you have to misrepresent the facts to make your point, how great was your point?
It's pretty scary for people to ascribe all such crimes to the president. The slightest examination of the case would seem to prove this has nothing to do with Trump. If you have to misrepresent the facts to make your point, how great was your point?
Society doesn't function well just by giving extremely punitive prison sentences. 7 years for hate speech does not benefit society. It just causes us to spend a lot of money to support somebody for an action that isn't worth that much money to prevent. Remember that the money spent on keeping that prisoner alive and ethically comfortable for 7 years could be better used helping people.whats the punishment for stuff like this?
i feel like it should be much higher, whatever it is. IMO just spray painting hate speech should land a person in jail for a significant time, a fine or something just isn't enough.. society as a whole should signal to these fucking cowardly fascists that there is zero tolerance to their crap. if the penalties are basically a slap on the wrist, then this shit gets more and more normalized and soon we are in real trouble..
i wouldn't hesitate for a minute to put a fascist in jail for 5-7 years just for hate speech. and much longer for attempted arsony.
He's right, you're wrong. But don't let that stop you from ranting and raving.Yeah like you did the slightest fucking examination. You are fucking delusional and completely clueless and you should be embarrassed.
Pretty much.
He's right, you're wrong. But don't let that stop you from ranting and raving.
Of course I do. I also follow the news of this event, which is how I know automatically attributing it to Trump is patently dumb.And you don't pay any attention to Trump. Also embarrassing yourself.
Don't show your ass. Trump out here spitting ((globalist)) nonsense, underfunding departments that monitor domestic terrorists.He's right, you're wrong. But don't let that stop you from ranting and raving.
Of course I do. I also follow the news of this event, which is how I know automatically attributing it to Trump is patently dumb.
Society doesn't function well just by giving extremely punitive prison sentences. 7 years for hate speech does not benefit society. It just causes us to spend a lot of money to support somebody for an action that isn't worth that much money to prevent. Remember that the money spent on keeping that prisoner alive and ethically comfortable for 7 years could be better used helping people.
It's not people that look like them getting killed but doing the killing. White privilege has infinite retries.i dunno, i just feel like i've seen enough of this shit and i would want sensible authorities all over the world to stamp down HARD on any elements of fascism, to show we mean business.. make them afraid, make them crawl back into their holes.
or we can just be like whatever, it costs too much to go after them properly.. lets just keep giving them second chances, maybe they'll learn to act like humans some day. i can kinda guess where that will lead us, and i hope i'm wrong.
Of course the guys going to the border are inspired by Trump. What does that have to do with a young black man burning Jewish centers? A young black man who used to work on behalf of targeted individuals and groups. Perhaps this situation is more complex than "Trump did it !"Don't show your ass. Trump out here spitting ((globalist)) nonsense, underfunding departments that monitor domestic terrorists.
There's fucking gun nuts traveling to the border armed and loaded getting ready to attack the caravan. Not inspired Trump tho right?
Oh golly gee, it's a black attacking Jews. You're right, I bet it'll be more complex than if he were white.Of course the guys going to the border are inspired by Trump. What does that have to do with a young black man burning Jewish centers? A young black man who used to work on behalf of targeted individuals and groups. Perhaps this situation is more complex than "Trump did it !"
A black man who used to work on behalf of Jews and other groups routinely targeted. Feel free to jump to any conclusion you want but stifle the urge to attack other users who have their own opinions.Oh golly gee, it's a black attacking Jews. You're right, I bet it'll be more complex than if he were white.
Abhorrent people can also be doctors, teachers and cops helping the people they have deep irrational hate for.A black man who used to work on behalf of Jews and other groups routinely targeted. Feel free to jump to any conclusion you want but stifle the urge to attack other users who have their own opinions.
Aren't these literally terrorrism?
My point is it's complicated and until I know more I'm not making any sort of judgment. Least of all ascribing responsibility for it to one person.What is the point you are making? Were their motives released, or are we just assuming that a black man who used to work with victims of hate crimes cannot be motivated by Trump?
You think there are no black anti-semites? Anti-semitism knows no color.Shit, he's black...looks like dude was off his meds. It's sad that his mental state caused him to perform acts of true hate.
Bruh, not even CLOSE to what I was thinking.You think there are no black anti-semites? Anti-semitism knows no color.
But that's what you said.
But that's what you said.
It's not surprising that this happened- this is the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn. Hasidic Jews and blacks have had a history of strained relations there. A lot of it has to do with the Hasidic sect being so seclusive and dismissive of anyone who is not them. I'm Jewish- they don't even consider me a Jew.