These are the speakers I got
They were also on sale, didn't want to go too crazy with my first ever setup. But honesty? Super easy to get everything going.
How did you manage the rear speakers wires ? Did you hide them ?
These are the speakers I got
They were also on sale, didn't want to go too crazy with my first ever setup. But honesty? Super easy to get everything going.
Right now they are on some dinky stools. Going to Ikea and getting 2 mini book shelves that will go to ear height (when sitting) and putting them ontop of those (bolting them down too)How did you manage the rear speakers wires ? Did you hide them ?
I have my soundbar attached via optical cable, though, instead of HDMI.
I've been Googling this and haven't found anything. I have a Vizio SB3821, and I've seen no mention of a repeater online or in the documentation.
IR signals are really good at bouncing around. Is it possible you could just move the soundbar forward a little? Even if you just had a little gap between the speaker and the TV, it's entirely possible you could angle your remote at the ceiling and have it bounce down and hit inside that gap.
Yes seriously dude. I don't get the headache. Once you set it up, it's not really any different than a soundbar at that point. You turn it on, change the input, and that's it. My wife doesn't understand any of the complexities of how things work with regards to that but even she can turn it on and be fine. Heck my 3 year old can do everything while I'm not even home without messing anything up. It's really simple to use. For awhile everything was even a one button press to turn everything on and now they don't even push a button and just use their voice to tell it which thing they want to do. I have an extremely elaborate setup too.
So no, I don't get how it's a headache. I don't see a reason you need to constantly upgrade. I don't see what you have to mess with once you set it up. Heck, I find more problems with my soundbar than I do with my full setup.
My living room is not too big but I don't wanna spend too much on a sound system because ivI' got thin walls and idI rather not be *that* neighbor. I want something practical for watching netflNe and gaming that's why I was looking at the Yamaha.Others will give you a better answer but I think it might depends on the space you have and how you plug your hardware (Blu-ray drive, gaming console directly into the TV or sound system). You could find a very good a/v receiver for that price but then you'll have to add some speakers. Yamaha soundbars seem to be good though, using sound projection.
The biggest drawback of soundbars for gaming isn't the sound quality. That's an expected compromise compared to a proper sound setup, and it will still be better than a TV's speakers.
The biggest issue is Audio Lag. It's like input lag but for sound. While most gaming TV's get 20-30ms of input lag, the soundbars I've measured had unavoidable 50-60ms of audio lag. Sometimes this lag gets added to the TV's audio processing latency, which can bring total audio lag to well over 100ms!
This means almost guaranteed desynced audio/lip sync, a disadvantage in games requiring reactions to sfx like online shooters, and frustrating rhythm game calibration.
Edit: The second issue is power-saving. Some soundbars go into standby during silence and take several hundred ms to wake up from. Not all soundbars let you turn power-saving off, and it's known to screw up audio in games with frequent periods of silence, e.g. NES/SNES Classic games.
Edit 2: I should mention that not all soundbars have a fixed audio lag; some let you adjust the lag using an AV Sync setting. The minimum lag that you can set with AV Sync will still vary from soundbar to soundbar, though.
My living room is not too big but I don't wanna spend too much on a sound system because ivI' got thin walls and idI rather not be *that* neighbor. I want something practical for watching netflNe and gaming that's why I was looking at the Yamaha.
I bought a sound bar because of this thread and Shadow of the Colossus. Sounds fucking magical. TY all.
Yes, it is worth the $80 upgrade, or whatever a cheap model costs.
Depends, one of my friends has his set to pick up a lot of frequencies and it's too much. Mine only picks up lows and it sounds nice.Yeah theyre pretty good.
I personally avoid the ones with the Subwoofers, it just sounds like shit and rattles the whole house.
Yes, the soundbar itself can (will) have inherent audio lag.Is there still lag if you have it wired via optical out from the tv?
I'm looking for a speakers solution too. All devices are hdmi so go into tv but tv sounds like shit.
I used to game with those Logitech speaker sets either 2.1 or 5.1 that you could plug the console audio directly into, and was happy. Now that everything is one cable, hdmi, I'm not sure how one is to set up an audio upgrade.
Soundbar seems like a good solution since tv can use optical cable out to it, but if there's lag I'm not interested.. Let's say I was interested in speakers. How does that work with modern devices and hdmi? Do you need a receiver or something? How much would a decent set up cost in the good quality but lower price range?
I'm pretty sensitive to audio lag and I did notice it when I had my soundbar connected via optical to my TV and then my XB1 plugged into my TV (a slightly older 1080p Sony Bravia) with HDMI. Also, certain devices connected to the TV had worse lag than others, while my XB1 had lag in that configuration, I never had it with my Roku.Yes, the soundbar itself can (will) have inherent audio lag.
The issue with TV audio out (optical, ARC, analog) is that it's also a gamble. Some TVs will have zero audio lag from their audio outputs, and work fine with a soundbar. Other TVs will add their audio lag to the soundbar's lag, making audio even laggier and guaranteed to be desynced.
I guess you gotta do full surround sound then! I'm planning to do that in the future.I bought a soundbar that comes with a sub and 2 rear speakers. Does that count as "surround" when I go in game options? I'm playing Wolfenstein 2 in cinema mode and the gunshots are very low. It's clearer when I choose stereo/hifi. Also I tested the surround option on my wii u and switch and only 2 sounds out of 5 played.
I thought I was getting a surround 4.1 system but it seems like games treat it as stereo only.
I bought a soundbar that comes with a sub and 2 rear speakers. Does that count as "surround" when I go in game options? I'm playing Wolfenstein 2 in cinema mode and the gunshots are very low. It's clearer when I choose stereo/hifi. Also I tested the surround option on my wii u and switch and only 2 sounds out of 5 played.
I thought I was getting a surround 4.1 system but it seems like games treat it as stereo only.
The Wii U and Switch only support LPCM 5.1 which likely your soundbar doesn't support. What platform is Wolfenstein 2 on?
Wolf 2 is on PS4. So for the best sound I should choose Stereo even if I have a 4.1? I'm going to test more games tonight.
Which soundbar do you have and what are your settings on your PS4? For the Wii U and Switch, you'll only be able to do stereo, or some virtual surround sound like Pro Logic since your soundbar likely doesn't support LPCM.
I have a Samsung hw-k370 with the rear speakers and it's connected to my Samsung tv by audioconnect wirelessly. I have an optical cable if necessary. The ps4 is connected by hdmi to the tv. In the audio settings I left it at PCM.
Link to my soundbar system:
https://www.samsung.com/us/televisi...370-soundbar-w-wireless-subwoofer-hw-k370-za/
Thanks for your help!
I have a Samsung hw-k370 with the rear speakers and it's connected to my Samsung tv by audioconnect wirelessly. I have an optical cable if necessary. The ps4 is connected by hdmi to the tv. In the audio settings I left it at PCM.
Link to my soundbar system:
https://www.samsung.com/us/televisi...370-soundbar-w-wireless-subwoofer-hw-k370-za/
Thanks for your help!
If it's set to PCM you won't be getting surround sound to the rear speakers, it will just redirect some of the audio to the rears. You'll want to set it to bitstream and Dolby on your TV and PS4 audio settings.
Looking at the specs on your soundbar, it looks like it only even handles 2.0 for Dolby Digital and DTS bitstreaming. You'll want to switch to that on the PS4, but even then, you're only going to get stereo. I wonder if they just have the rears to do stuff like Pro Logic and virtual surround sound. If I'm understanding it right, this is what you can do and can't do
LPCM 2.0 - Yes
LPCM 5.1 - No
Dolby Digital 2.0 - Yes
Dolby Digital 5.1 - No
DTS 2.0 - Yes
DTS 5.1 - No
For the people who suggest using headphones, I have a pair of Sennheiser 598's that I'd love to use, but everything I've read tells me that plugging them directly into the audio jack would negate all the good sound these headphones could produce. What are you guys using to increase the sound quality while playing on a console?
I have a DAC/AMP that I use with my PC, but I didn't think those worked with consoles. Am I wrong?
I used to game with those Logitech speaker sets either 2.1 or 5.1 that you could plug the console audio directly into, and was happy. Now that everything is one cable, hdmi, I'm not sure how one is to set up an audio upgrade.
I still rock the 5.1 Logitechs. Optical out from the TV. Zero lag, and the setup sounds better than anything I've heard at friends' houses; none of whom have 5.1, but many of whom have soundbars.
I'm sure it's the worst way to do 5.1, but all these years later I still have no desire to upgrade. Only place I ever hear better audio is in a movie theatre. None of the headphones I own sound superior - actually they sound pretty much identical. I needed to use headphones for the binaural audio in Hellblade (speakers didn't come close in that instance); but I stopped bothering with headphones for VR because they didn't sound any better or more immersive than my speakers.
Yamaha YAS-107Yamaha YAS-107- no sub, but better quality and 4K proof
or
Samsung M450-comes with sub, might own Samsung TV one day
which should I get?
In the UK looking to buy a sound bar, do people recommend the Yamaha YAS-107, after reading on here, for one that isn't too expensive, could always buy a sub with it too?
The YAS-107 doesn't seem to have an AV-Sync function. How's the audio lag?Yeah, I've purchased and installed the YAS-107. It's been great. I have all my boxes/HTPC connected via HDMI to the TV then digital optical out of the TV into the soundbar. It's a one button power on for immediate sound out of the sound bar.
The DTS Virutal X simulated surround is incredible
The YAS-107 doesn't seem to have an AV-Sync function. How's the audio lag?
That's good to hear. Enjoy the soundbar!It seems pretty tolerable- I wouldn't say I've noticed much/any lag. (using a 1.5m digital optical cable) watched HTPC movies, TV, X1 and Switch for a few days without anything sticking out.
I might not be too sensitive to it
My soundbar has 60ms of audio lag, which is desynced from my TV with 26ms display lag. Another guy in the thread has a soundbar with an A/V sync toggle that goes as low as 25ms. See my post earlier in the thread for more info.