Yeah, they could've tossed them a slight spec bump, but this is the same company sold a four year old Mac Mini because . . . they're greedy.
Apple launches new MacBook Pros Touch Bar Only starting @$1799
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Mine had this (same year) I just got the screen replaced by Apple as they are covered under the repair program until December.
And yet they are the only ones not using USB-C in their phones. Besides, most laptops include USB-C and regular USB. It's not like Apple is the only one using USB-C on their laptops.
Every other single laptop recommendation that have been posted here in this thread has USB-C.
Me too.
I missed my escape key, but once I remapped that function to CAPS lock all was well in the world again.
It doesn't. Peak temperature was 97C. Also, slamhk linked to the 2017 review where they only stress test the CPU and GPU at the same time (FurMark+Prime95). The 2016 model reaches similar temps and throttles to the similar speeds under the same test - it doesn't reach higher temps or speeds because the power adapter can't cope with it. Furthermore, synthetic tests are used for such stress tests precisely because it's incredibly unlikely that a CPU will be under such load IRL. Think of it as a worst-case scenario.
Again, considering that you can leave the entire cooling system to the CPU only with an eGPU, the 3.3GHz speed and 97C temps with Prime95 are a more impressive statement of performance than 2.3GHz 90C with the dGPU. In my opinion. It also means that in gaming, for example, the CPU wouldn't throttle at all from it's 3.4GHz max turbo speed for four cores with an eGPU. When those gain Boot Camp support, that is.
It's a great port, but only having 2 on the base 13" is insanity.
That's great to hear. I honestly have only heard bad to lukewarm things about it since its introduction. I went with the base model last year because I need physical keys. Almost got it for the Touch ID alone, though.
Oh it's there, I just prefer a physical key and I've never really need the CAPS lock function, so I get my physical ESC key back. The Touch Bar ESC key is very meh.
Same. Also good for video editing. I wouldn't want an MBP without it when I look to upgrade.
Is the base model 13 inch Mac worth it?
Or should I bite the bullet and go all out for the 15-inch?
And if im just using it for music listening and music production (Logic X Pro) should i just wait on a deal on a current model or do i need the new model (And do I wait for the rumored Mini or Air)??
Or should I bite the bullet and go all out for the 15-inch?
And if im just using it for music listening and music production (Logic X Pro) should i just wait on a deal on a current model or do i need the new model (And do I wait for the rumored Mini or Air)??
Yeah the Touch Bar is great. It only adds functionality. I only wish it was on all their keyboards.
Lol I don't think the Touchbar is well-received overall either but MacRumors is the absolute worst place to gauge reactions to anything.
Best part of the site is that its archives go back years so you can chuckle at people being totally wrong about so much stuff.
Huh? Apple are the reason I still have to use a non USB-C charger for my tablet and bluetooth headphones. All my other shit's on USB-C--they're the ones who are lagging behind, and it's annoying as hell.
(Plus, it's not like they just removed the ports to make way for USB-C--the SD card reader went as well, and that's something USB-C can't replace, unless you like dongles.)
It definitely removes functionality, though? Physical function row keys are valuable for people who rely on them, ESC in particular. If they'd put the touch bar above the F-row, I'd agree, but they didn't.
Nasty pricing. Apple just release macOS as an open distro pls. Also someone buy me a Xiaomi Mi Notebook Pro.
You 'can't imagine' using physical buttons for volume or brightness again? I'm paranoid of battery drain so I like the non-screen options.
You 'can't imagine' using physical buttons for volume or brightness again? I'm paranoid of battery drain so I like the non-screen options.
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What did you use to clean the screen? I'm using a regular microfiber cloth and I'm afraid I'll get this too. Is your new screen supposed to be immune to this problem?
I don't even know if this program applies to my laptop because it's used and was bought in Russia (I assume, since the keyboard is English/Russian) and I live in Israel
For Logic I would probably recommend a 15" - you want a lot of RAM for heavy Logic work, and likely storage for samples/VSTs/etc. Once you deck out a 13" with more storage and RAM you're pretty much at 15" pricing anyway.
I'm really starting to warm up to the idea of upgrading. Save for 144hz and/or OLED, this is pretty much my dream laptop.
Nearly 5ghz in turbo and finally more than 4 cores. 32gb of RAM will last years and years. The SSD aid lightning fast. If they had just used a Vega GPU... damn, had that video card just seen a bump, I'd have already ordered, I think.
Nearly 5ghz in turbo and finally more than 4 cores. 32gb of RAM will last years and years. The SSD aid lightning fast. If they had just used a Vega GPU... damn, had that video card just seen a bump, I'd have already ordered, I think.
it's cool. I been searching thoroughly now and watching videos. It still gets hot as fuck when using intense programs, but it's impressive how well it manages to sustain performance without melting itself.
but, my perspective has changed from horrible cooling to great performer (altough still toasty).
Just a microfibre occasionally slightly damp.
It shouldn't make a difference where it was bought.
People loathe change. Also, they can direct their general anger at Apple onto something they view as pointless. Fuck, look at the frothing rage the "notch" still generates.
As long as I've been a Mac user, I barely recall using the non-media F keys. Use of them is not as prevalent on Mac as they are on Windows or Linux.
Tempted to sell my MacBook Pro 2016 for this model but...I'll hold out for 2019.
So, about the Mac mini, can Apple please release it right now? I would love a Mac desktop
So, about the Mac mini, can Apple please release it right now? I would love a Mac desktop
I think the TouchBar would be slightly better with haptic feedback. At least then it could feel like you're pressing something.
all i want from a new MBP is a native-res display (2880x1800 on the 13", 3360x2100 on the 15") and a meaningfully better GPU and this update gives me neither :(
No, actually, Apples way of adopting USB-C makes the most sense to the overall transition. They changed the ports to USB-C on the devices where it makes the most sense in terms of beneficial features.
On MacBooks you can actually benefit from all the advantages USB-C brings like video output, fast data transfer, charging etc., while on phones and BT headphones you only use it for charging, where the old regular usb cables would be totally fine for. There is no real feature benefit there in using USB-C.
Also, it doesn't make sense to change a port when in 1-2 years everything mobile has moved to all wireless.
Great! Although, obviously I hope it doesn't happen to me.. lol
I searched a lot but couldn't find an answer if this happens to all models from that era, or if you can prevent it by cleaning with a certain type of cloth
Did it just happen one day or did you notice it over time?
I don't really get the hate for the touchbar. My previous work computer was a 15 inch macbook pro and I thought the touchbar was fine. Well, other than accidentally hitting the siri button when I go for delete. The keyboard did suck though.
However, that starting price of $1799 will keep me from buying one.
However, that starting price of $1799 will keep me from buying one.
Given the price, I wish there was less of a bezel on the screen. But it seems they only want to focus on that new feature with the iPAD.
Always seem to be behind the ball when it comes to these sorts of things. And a bezel free laptop is not out of this world either.
Always seem to be behind the ball when it comes to these sorts of things. And a bezel free laptop is not out of this world either.
I don't have a problem with the Touchbar per se, I just think it drives up the price for something I don't really need. I'd like to have a cheaper alternative without resorting to less capable hardware.
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The touch bar adds to the starting price. Fine isn't good enough if it's gonna bump the cost up $200-$300 dollars.
Yeah, I didn't think of the price increase. If it only added like $50 I wouldn't mind, but over $100 and I'd rather not have it.
Yep, or they should seriously make an effort to add some useful features to it, to make it worth the price increase. But to be honest, I can't think of something that they could implement to justify a 200-300€ price increase.
Scratching my head tbh. The touch bar adds functionality, therefore you'd be missing functionality if it were removed, not vice versa.
This. Also, spending $2300 on a laptop and worrying about $50-100. That's some BS....
At this point wanting a macbook without touch bar is like wanting an old school iPod instead of a Touch. Sure, they both play music - but the touch functionality became standard.
