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Epic definitely breached the contract and Epic's only foot to stand on is "they shouldn't be charging 30% we should get more money"
Don't see how a judge rules in Epic's favor on this counter-sue...it's pretty open and shut (not a lawyer)
Don't see how a judge rules in Epic's favor on this counter-sue...it's pretty open and shut (not a lawyer)
I don't think Apple would do this if they didn't think they had a hell of a leg to stand on. They know that they're under scrutiny with the App Store.
Epic's position is "well, you shouldn't get to take such a big cut!" and Apple's is "well, that's the agreement you signed." One of those will probably do better in court.
Epic's position is "well, you shouldn't get to take such a big cut!" and Apple's is "well, that's the agreement you signed." One of those will probably do better in court.
No, but people might be going for Epic higher up heads if they lose this badly
Replace Apple with Sony/Nintendo and you're damn right everyone would be saying Epic was stealing.
Will watch this case as well but as I said when Epic sued. I really don't care about a pissing match between two large megacorporation's.
Will be interested to see how this all plays out as that's a hell of a charge to make.
He overplayed his hand, and using gross methods at that. No sympathy from me.
They were attempting to circumvent paying the 30% commission, which is why the countersuit refers to the attempt as 'commission-theft'. This whole shit is corny.
That's irrelevant. Epic took Apple's cut of transactions without Apple's approval. That's all that matters.
They didn't steal literally but they did try to benefit buy using Apple ecosystem for free.
breached the contract
no lies detected
I still don't like it, but epic signed the damn ToS in the first place.....Tim is a fucking moron
no lies detected
I still don't like it, but epic signed the damn ToS in the first place.....Tim is a fucking moron
Yeah, I imagine some kind of judgement in their favor, but full-on theft seems hard to prove
If the breach of contract is found true though, then the theft of commission is also true.
Damn right. Apple winning does me no good at all and me is who I care about.
The problem is they probably didn't physically sign anything, it was just a virtual checkbox on the terms. Unless it's different for these big companies. I'm sure most people don't really take those terms seriously. Not that they shouldn't, but they probably don't view as as "legally binding" or whatever.
I think it's "stealing" because they actively tried to circumvent paying Apple and have the money "re-rerouted". It would probably just be a breach of contact if paying Apple their 30% wasn't part of the original transaction and they never wrote Apple their check.
But I'm no lawyer as well so wtf do I know.
I was gonna say... This seems a little silly since they'd have to prove that the 20% sale was what made people buy the vbucks to begin with little to no other factors playing in.