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Anyone else annoyed when people insist on using untranslated titles (manga, anime, games) when an official translated name exists?
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Fuck I came in here to shit on the baka gaijin but then I realized I've done this with Pan's Labyrinth for this reason.
Only if i think theyre doing it pretentiously, if thats genuinely what they know it as (for example importers) then fair enough to them.
I will always call JoJo Part 5 Vento Auereo because thats what i read it as long before the anime was even announced.
I will always call JoJo Part 5 Vento Auereo because thats what i read it as long before the anime was even announced.
Yes, and thankfully on this forum, there are only english native speaking people...
I mean, people will use what they feel comfortable with, and i really don't see any issue here. Also, some people start reading the manga, before it was released in the west, so of course they are used to the japanese name, for example Shingeki no Kyojin. I can adjust to the person i'm talking to, and use rather Attack on Titans, but cause my brain first got used to Shingeki no Kyojin, Attack on Titans just sounds wrong.
I don't know, maybe i don't have an issue with that, cause i'm from europe, and we use many words from other languages and not translating it, cause the sound would be just different. For example "la dolce vita", so many older german people i know always use this, rather then "Das süße Leben", it has the same meaning, but it sounds different when you say it in italian then in german. Some of my friends use Salut, some Salve, others Servus, and others Moin, i love "Griaß di", but nobody use it here in Frankfurt, and all means the same, just a "Hello", but people prefer different words, and should be allowed to use it.
Honestly, in fairness, that was another situation where the official title changed after awhile, like I mentioned prior. Though at least in this case, most people did use that, where most people didn't use... "Diamond is Not Crash".
Diamond is not crash, fitting for such a beautiful Duwang lol
Kuririn is used in the VIZ english translation of the Manga. It is 100% valid. As are many other DB names that differ from how Funimation often times (incorrectly) translated them. All official subtitles in the DVD and Blu Ray home releases of DB and DBZ also use the accurate translations as well. This isn't a "weeb" thing at all and many people used these names for DB exclusively long before the Funimation dub was ever a thing. If anything its the dub fans who use cringe like " Destructo Disk" that look ridiculous.
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Obviously not but a person who doesn't speak English wouldn't join an English forum and then complain that people aren't speaking their native language.
I honestly had no idea that "Diamond is Not Crash" was a thing until this thread.
God, it's kinda insane that happened to be the one with the really awkward fan translation, given the title. What's hilarious is despite everything, the translation was actually fairly accurate, just poorly written for the most part. Part 5, for fan translations, despite being well edited, was practically made up a lot of times, so it had the exact opposite issue. This has been since been replaced, to my knowledge, and there's official localizations coming out in the near foreseeable future, thankfully on top of that.
Really glad the localization situation with JoJo officially is a lot better than it was years ago. My god. I guess with the anime adaptations happening, really helped give the manga a chance now. Previous attempts were unfortunately meant with mixed results, due to fans not really supporting it back then.
Hahaha. I guess it shows how much the fandom avoided using it. Probably for the better. But yeah, I remember learning that quite a number years back (back when the Anime just started adapting Parts 1 and 2) and was like "..huh?".
Araki was an Italian weeb after all and we wouldn't have it any other way.
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With something like Les Misèrables, while there was some early translated titles, it's generally been just referred to by the original name. If someone goes and buys the original book or watches the movie or see the play, they see, Les Misèrables. The wider community has accepted that as it's title and so that's that.
Thinking using the actual title is "pretentious" is pretty ridiculous and shows how self-centered people are in the West.
It's not about that, never was about that, but many people are from different countries, never maybe even used for example Attack On Titans, because it's called different at their home. I'm from Germany, and i can speak english, but do you really think, it's called Attack on Titans here? So, for me it's easier to use a different name.
Or what do you guys expect, just because we all talk english here, it's a must to use the english names for things, although you know what people mean, when they say Shingeki no Kyojin (as example)? Why?
La vie d'Adèle is about the most uninspired title they could have picked. Just super lame.
The english title is much better and almost a direct translation of the original graphic novel "Le bleu est une couleur chaude". It's a great title, why change it.
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Again. When did I say that other speaking communites need to use English translations for stuff? I feel like your being willfully obtuse as to make me be this bad person.
But that's under the assumption that everyone does. Not everyone is aware of every single translation. Again, this is from an english-focused perspective. So in cases such as what I'm talking about, people are more likely to know the english translation before they know the original title. So yes, it can be confusing.
But again, before you continue to try and accuse me of policing what other languages use. I'm not telling the German, Spanish, French, and other language communities to use English translations. But if you're taking part in the English community it couldn't hurt to use those translation as to keep everyone on the same page. Just as if I did take part in a German talk about One Piece it probably would be good use to Ruffy instead of Luffy since it's the official translation there.
I mean, if I started reading something that was known by its Japanese title for years and it suddenly gets an official English title...it's gonna take a while if ever that I start calling it something else. Attack on Titan took ages before I stopped thinking of it as SnK and it's talked about all the time. Plenty of lesser-known series I'll hear their english title, go 'huh' then forget what it even was until someone reminds me. I'm not trying to be pretentious I'm just old and set in my ways.
If an english speaker is calling Jojo by its full Japanese title they're just being a twat though.
If an english speaker is calling Jojo by its full Japanese title they're just being a twat though.
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That really hasn't been true for awhile. Vast majority of dubs are pretty good these days. There's only the occasional outlier (namely Netflix) that tends to turn out bad dubs.
Post examples, please.I'll check them out later, but everything I've seen dubbed is definitely worse than the original.
P.S I bet it's mostly people it's mostly people from the states or uk/aus that prefer dubbed stuff.
It's fine depending on who, why, and where they are saying it. Some guy a while ago called My Hero Academia by its Japanese name in the class we were all in and that right there is some dumb ass weeb shit.
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Some older examples:
Black Lagoon
Cowboy Bebop
Fullmetal Alchemist (Original and Brotherhood)
Yu Yu Hakusho
Samurai Champloo
Code Geass
More recent examples:
My Hero Academia
JoJo Bizzare Adventure
Carole & Tuesday (I haven't personally watched but I heard good things)
Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?
Darling in the Franxxx
Dragon Ball Super
Star Blazers 2199 and 2202
I mean this shit is all preference.
Edit: On an aside I'm still so so sad about Crunchyroll and Funimation breaking up their deal. Sure Funi made a deal with Hulu but soooooo much of their shows are missing on Hulu.
Nope doesn't bother me at all, in fact I'm one of those people you dislike. Though I'm known to switch between the two depending on if the show's translated name is trash and which I like better.
Example I am not calling KonaSuba, God's Blessing on this Wonderful World! I am not going to call Precure, Glitter Force. I am not going to call Machikado Mazoku, The Demon Girl Next Door. I'm calling it DanMachi not Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?
Whereas I call have no issue calling Enen no Shouboutai, Fire Force or Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari, Shield Hero.
Example I am not calling KonaSuba, God's Blessing on this Wonderful World! I am not going to call Precure, Glitter Force. I am not going to call Machikado Mazoku, The Demon Girl Next Door. I'm calling it DanMachi not Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?
Whereas I call have no issue calling Enen no Shouboutai, Fire Force or Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari, Shield Hero.
I agree with the following, even though, imo, are not as good as the original, but still good.I don't agree with the rest or I haven't seen them.
Depends on what I first knew the name as and if it's not a really long title. For example: I'm not going to call Erased by it's Japanese name, but I don't mind saying something like Kimi ni Todoke.
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But no one calls KonoSuba, God's Blessing on this Wonderful World!, because when they brought it over they still called it KonoSuba. I feel like "counter examples" like that don't actually exist in reality.
Also I agree that DanMachi is better because the full title is too long. (Although DanMachi itself is still shortening the super long original title)
Edit: I guess I thought I did but yeah, cases where the untranslated title is what is used overseas are exceptions. As in that case they have made the deliberate choice of not translating it.
Man, this thread reminded me of something.
You know that joke in Spongebob, where you got a bunch of characters yelling "GHOSTS!", except for one, who holds up some toast and says "Toast."?
In the German version, he says "Weissbrot". Why did he do that? The word toast exists in German. I'm so confused. I mean, either way, it doesn't rhyme with "Geister". Translations are weird.
You know that joke in Spongebob, where you got a bunch of characters yelling "GHOSTS!", except for one, who holds up some toast and says "Toast."?
In the German version, he says "Weissbrot". Why did he do that? The word toast exists in German. I'm so confused. I mean, either way, it doesn't rhyme with "Geister". Translations are weird.
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Ultimately it's just preference. Some like subs more and some like dubs more. I know lately I've been watching dubs more because it's much easier to multitask with a dub then watching a subbed show.
I just get annoyed when I hear "SNK" cause then I'm like "ya'll like Metal Slug" and they're like "what the fuck is that?"
I agree.I used to watch dubs a few years ago, nowadays I prefer subs.
I do this with some games, in particular ones I've played and known the Japanese versions first. Notably, Rhythm Tengoku. (Which is also exacerbated because it's called Rhythm Heaven in NA and Rhythm Paradise in EU, so it's even less likely I call it by its US name.)
I also might accidentally do it with titles that I've just heard the Japanese name first, and it stuck, like Judge Eyes instead of Judgement, or even WarioWare's "Made in Ore" instead of "DIY" (which honestly I don't know why I remember that one).
I also might accidentally do it with titles that I've just heard the Japanese name first, and it stuck, like Judge Eyes instead of Judgement, or even WarioWare's "Made in Ore" instead of "DIY" (which honestly I don't know why I remember that one).
Name can be different across regions, the Japanese name can be a common denominator.
For exemple, it's basically impossible for me to talk about Pokemon here because I don't know their names in English. With Anime, since when you watch it with sub you end up knowning the original name you can use that.
For exemple, it's basically impossible for me to talk about Pokemon here because I don't know their names in English. With Anime, since when you watch it with sub you end up knowning the original name you can use that.
Interesting, didn't know that! But yeah, like I said I'm generally only miffed about localized titles that misses the point of the original source material.
Most of the time, yeah.
The only time I've held to a Japanese title was Umi ga Kikoeru (as I understand it, literally "I can hear the sea") which has an official English title of "Ocean Waves".
The only time I've held to a Japanese title was Umi ga Kikoeru (as I understand it, literally "I can hear the sea") which has an official English title of "Ocean Waves".
As a spanish speaker, I don't care. I tend to use english, romaji or even spanish titles according to the work and my own preferences.
