That's how I hope they end up doing it, my only hesitation is looking at how slow they were to support PS4 and hopefully that won't be the case next time.
The fact PC gamepass is seperate to console game pass, is already suggestive that PC xCloud may also differ to an extent.
Also in today's Verge interview:
Microsoft is only saying "next year" for Windows 10 support, but it's more likely we'll see it appear in the next few months than toward the end of 2020. I asked Kareem Choudhry, the head of cloud gaming at Microsoft, about how the company will handle keyboard and mouse support for Xbox games when they're streamed via xCloud to a PC. Not many Xbox games support keyboard and mouse right now, and there's a challenge getting developers involved. "What you're saying is absolutely true for Xbox game content right now, but there will be more types of content," says Choudhry.
That sure sounds like Microsoft is planning to stream PC games through xCloud in the future, but Choudhry is only hinting at this future right now. Microsoft isn't committing to exactly where xCloud will go here.
This is also a good way for them to cater to the PC audience, rather than copying exactly what is on consoles, and being supportive of PC exclusive endeavours and content.
It perhaps wouldn't be surprising if xCloud is one of the vendors joining nVidia and perhaps EA on Steam's integrated Cloud Gaming offerings alongside its own service
FanboyismTell me what I'm missing here. The fact that it ties into GamePass is cool. A library of bonus games. But compare the core services: xCloud is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with console graphics and framerate, to your phone or tablet, for a subscription fee. Google Stadia is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with high-end PC graphics and framerate, to any device, including your TV (the important one!), and no subscription required. You can stream the game you bought even if you're not subscribed. I'm so confused about why everyone thinks this was a slam dunk. And the white screen with all the publishers? Google did the same thing months ago. They even have Dualshock 4 support. So what's the big deal?
Your one of the few people here that did actual researchTell me what I'm missing here. The fact that it ties into GamePass is cool. A library of bonus games. But compare the core services: xCloud is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with console graphics and framerate, to your phone or tablet, for a subscription fee. Google Stadia is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with high-end PC graphics and framerate, to any device, including your TV (the important one!), and no subscription required. You can stream the game you bought even if you're not subscribed. I'm so confused about why everyone thinks this was a slam dunk. And the white screen with all the publishers? Google did the same thing months ago. They even have Dualshock 4 support. So what's the big deal?
Tell me what I'm missing here. The fact that it ties into GamePass is cool. A library of bonus games. But compare the core services: xCloud is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with console graphics and framerate, to your phone or tablet, for a subscription fee. Google Stadia is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with high-end PC graphics and framerate, to any device, including your TV (the important one!), and no subscription required. You can stream the game you bought even if you're not subscribed. I'm so confused about why everyone thinks this was a slam dunk. And the white screen with all the publishers? Google did the same thing months ago. They even have Dualshock 4 support. So what's the big deal?
He has a point though!
It's actually does, GP already has had all three since the summer.
Anti-google herd mentality. I have no particular love for Google myself, but you are 100% correct. If, and this is a big IF, Stadia were ever to put out top-of-the-line looking games with computational power not offered by consoles, then it would be a whole new ballgame, but xcloud somehow showing up Stadia with today's announcement is nothing but anticipatory premature ejaculation... "I believe it, therefore it is true"... splat...Tell me what I'm missing here. The fact that it ties into GamePass is cool. A library of bonus games. But compare the core services: xCloud is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with console graphics and framerate, to your phone or tablet, for a subscription fee. Google Stadia is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with high-end PC graphics and framerate, to any device, including your TV (the important one!), and no subscription required. You can stream the game you bought even if you're not subscribed. I'm so confused about why everyone thinks this was a slam dunk. And the white screen with all the publishers? Google did the same thing months ago. They even have Dualshock 4 support. So what's the big deal?
Sure, soon both will be running on Azure even, so the Twins are also game streaming twins too. PSNow falls real short on quality at the moment though, just 720p and the PS3 games are the PS3 versions, warts and all. It has significantly more games than otheer services at the moment though.Help me understand one thing: is it fair to compare XCloud to PSNow? How do those two fare against each other? Technically speaking, and with respect to content.
That's exactly why Stadia is more likely to fail and XCloud/PS Now are more likely to succeed.Not exactly a fair comparison. You have to build apps to natively work on Stadia. You already have the code for Xbox games. It's not like to stream games from my Steam Library, Valve is asking devs to work on a streaming version. It's hands off for them.
Tell me what I'm missing here. The fact that it ties into GamePass is cool. A library of bonus games. But compare the core services: xCloud is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with console graphics and framerate, to your phone or tablet, for a subscription fee. Google Stadia is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with high-end PC graphics and framerate, to any device, including your TV (the important one!), and no subscription required. You can stream the game you bought even if you're not subscribed. I'm so confused about why everyone thinks this was a slam dunk. And the white screen with all the publishers? Google did the same thing months ago. They even have Dualshock 4 support. So what's the big deal?
You basically covered it.
Just add in the fact that it's a hot take by someone who obviously has no idea how different the work required is for supporting a brand new streaming platform,
against just streaming already made Xbox One games on Xbox hardware in the cloud.
I do wonder what hardware the xcloud is running. Are you going to get 4k Xbox One X quality at least? I haven't seen that confirmed anywhere.
MS does have a ton of points in their favor with their built-in marketplace, I really am curious to see how they price it out and what kind of tech they have
Is it confirmed they will have XB1 blades in the servers after 1.0 launch? Seems counterproductive if true
Maybe do a research before posting?dont you still have to like, buy an xbox to play xcloud? then it's not comparable to stadia. plus stadia has an offering in 5 days, this doesnt. ds4 support doesnt mean anything to me...
Do you not see the contradiction here?Anti-google herd mentality. I have no particular love for Google myself, but you are 100% correct. If, and this is a big IF, Stadia were ever to put out top-of-the-line looking games with computational power not offered by consoles, then it would be a whole new ballgame, but xcloud somehow showing up Stadia with today's announcement is nothing but anticipatory premature ejaculation... "I believe it, therefore it is true"... splat...
Honestly I kinda want Stadia to fail primarily because they don't offer an local option to play their games. Every game on PSNow can be played locally on your PS4 or PS3 etc, every game on xCloud can be played on PC/Xbox hardware. How the fuck am I going to play Gylt or Orcs Must Die 3 in Australia where Stadia won't launch for likely 5+ years? Or when the service goes down? If Google had a PC client in addition to their streaming service it'll be a millon times better.
Yeah, I definitely understand that. I still feel it's too early for a purely streaming gaming service though, even ignoring my location and whatnot. Growing something out of an established gaming company with local hardware options feels so much more organic and something I'd rather put my support behind.While I understand this issue, it really doesn't make sense for the hardware agnostic approach they are taking.
If you have to add an asterisk saying you can play the games locally, only if you have a PC that supports each games minimum specs, then I feel like you muddy the messaging even more than it already is thanks to the misconception of what game 'streaming' means compared to other media.
As someone else not in their current launch territory, it does suck having to wait though!
While I understand this issue, it really doesn't make sense for the hardware agnostic approach they are taking.
If you have to add an asterisk saying you can play the games locally, only if you have a PC that supports each games minimum specs, then I feel like you muddy the messaging even more than it already is thanks to the misconception of what game 'streaming' means compared to other media.
As someone else not in their current launch territory, it does suck having to wait though!
That's a easy one.Why is that? Is there a good comparison out there somewhere? Is PS Now behind on a technical level?
Gears 5? The Outer Worlds? Halo 5? Forza Horizon 4? Are you kidding or just being a Sony fanboy?
Yes and most of them, a overwhelming majority of them were not that great.
Tell me what I'm missing here. The fact that it ties into GamePass is cool. A library of bonus games. But compare the core services: xCloud is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with console graphics and framerate, to your phone or tablet, for a subscription fee. Google Stadia is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with high-end PC graphics and framerate, to any device, including your TV (the important one!), and no subscription required. You can stream the game you bought even if you're not subscribed. I'm so confused about why everyone thinks this was a slam dunk. And the white screen with all the publishers? Google did the same thing months ago. They even have Dualshock 4 support. So what's the big deal?
Tell me what I'm missing here. The fact that it ties into GamePass is cool. A library of bonus games. But compare the core services: xCloud is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with console graphics and framerate, to your phone or tablet, for a subscription fee. Google Stadia is a service that lets you stream purchased games, with high-end PC graphics and framerate, to any device, including your TV (the important one!), and no subscription required. You can stream the game you bought even if you're not subscribed. I'm so confused about why everyone thinks this was a slam dunk. And the white screen with all the publishers? Google did the same thing months ago. They even have Dualshock 4 support. So what's the big deal?
Anti-google herd mentality. I have no particular love for Google myself, but you are 100% correct. If, and this is a big IF, Stadia were ever to put out top-of-the-line looking games with computational power not offered by consoles, then it would be a whole new ballgame, but xcloud somehow showing up Stadia with today's announcement is nothing but anticipatory premature ejaculation... "I believe it, therefore it is true"... splat...
All Google needs to do really is offer their own Gamepass style service, on top of what they offer now. That is it. The reasons I'm choosing xCloud over Stadia are Gamepass and local downloads. Those are big enough features for me that they overshadow any weaknesses the xCloud platform has. Google currently doesn't have options with their platform, it's just buying games for full-price and that's it.
I don't know of any other streaming service that has that as their primary business model.
PSNOW is out now though. It works right NOW!!!! LolThat's a easy one.
Not on mobile devices.
Game content doesn't compare.
Doesn't work across PC, mobile tablet and console.
Oh, they don't have GamePass!
Yea, they two have a huge mountain to climb!
Scarlett isn't running the future's games at 4K 60fps.xCloud preview and immediate launch is with base One S units. By end next year, those get swapped out for Scarlett units, which should easily be a match for whatever hardware is in Stadia. Same with PS Now revamped, which will be running on PS5 hardware.
No meaningful computational advantage.
While it is more akin to PS+ than Gamepass, Stadia Pro is planned to have free games added for subscribers....
But like thats another issue. For 10 dollars a month you can get gamepass. Is stadia gonna have a better sub library than gamepass? I doubt it.That's certainly a step in the right direction, and I could easily throw down $10 for a month of gaming if the free* game that month interests me. I mean $10 is more than fair for a month's rental
But like thats another issue. For 10 dollars a month you can get gamepass. Is stadia gonna have a better sub library than gamepass? I doubt it.
But like thats another issue. For 10 dollars a month you can get gamepass. Is stadia gonna have a better sub library than gamepass? I doubt it.