My Galaxy S2 Is on Android 8 AND works like a charm still.
What about the 4s? Oh right, it's useless.
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Anandtech: Apple A12 “nearly 2x performance” all all Android SoC; margins off fastest desktop CPUs
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What about the 4s? Oh right, it's useless.
They sort of did, with the AppleTV (which is no slouch either.) But Apple doesn't really have anyone who cares or really gets gaming—they didn't support the iOS App Store enough that "premium" games could really make it work, they let their online services die, and they didn't pack in a useful controller.
It's a shame, because they could provide a pretty compelling product in the space. But they can't even be bothered to half-ass it. I don't think Apple particularly cares though, because casual games still make them money hand over fist with a lot less effort.
Leaving aside the potential for more graceful aging, a lot of that power is going into 'invisible' stuff like computational photography and background processes. But there are also people who are legitimately using their phones and tablets for 'real' work, not just consuming content and posting on social media, and the speed obviously benefits them there.
Seeing as the reason for limiting clocks is due to battery aging, and that all batteries age, if an Android device didn't do the same, it had statistically much higher chances of randomly crashing due to the battery not being able to supply at the needed voltage at peak usage.
So, either they did the same thing, or they worked worse. Literally.
Don't know about that, my mom's still using mine.
I agree long term Android update support was bad but that is changing.
Extended Linux kernal support has tripled from 2 to 6 years since then. It actually started with the release of the Snapdragon 835 (Pixel 2 / Galaxy S8, Nexus 6 was only the 805). https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...kernel-lts-releases-are-now-good-for-6-years/
Also Google released Project Treble in Android 8 which makes SOC drivers a separate layer and not tied to the operating system version.
Things are looking up in Android land if you want a phone from an OEM that provides long term software support (Pixel lineup for example).
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What's so funny about worked better? I used to use only android phones back in the day before the iPhone 5. They worked great for the first year and a half. Then with some updates, the phone would start freezing up, get really hot, or have weird bugs. You can argue that android has gotten much better but my parents have android phones and they are always asking me to help troubleshoot issues to the point where I plan to get both of them iPhones. So yes, iPhones WORK better.
Is it running a custom ROM or something oficial from Samsung?
Custom. So? That's the beauty of Android. Wanted a "Gotcha!'" moment?
I said that with each one of your post saying that Android phones run bad.
It's nice that this thread has continued with thoughtful discussion on the state of mobile SoCs.
Well then, so that only shows how great apple support for older devices is. Are you trying to say Samsung is at the same level of support?
You may have time to spare tinkering with phones, most people don't.
Why do people get so fucking defensive over cell phones, of all things?
If only we could channel this much emotion and passion into something actually productive.
If only we could channel this much emotion and passion into something actually productive.
I only really want more resolution if I can get higher information density. I don't want more ppi than 450. I don't need Retina 4x but I'll happily take a bigger canvas.
It'd be insane if Apple had a Retina 2x mode for the XS Max. Having a 624 x 1344 logical resolution on that screen would be fucking crazy.
I'm trying to say I can still use an S2 with modern apps. Unlike the 4s.
Apple has been absolutely killing it on the SoC front. Absolutely stunning achievements, consistently so, and firing on all cylinders. They're literally in a class of their own on this front.
It's amazing to see how they're consistently 12-18 months ahead of the competition in this regard and keep pushing forward.
I'm getting a new iPhone this year after evaluating some other phones, knowing Apple will support my phone for at least 5 years sure brings me some peace of mind as they're becoming expensive.
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My Nexus 4 can have Android Pie installed and still runs like a dream, can the iPhone 5 even install apps anymore...?
Some people tie their identity to whatever OS their phone is running.
So if you diss the phone you're actually dissing them.
I still see people running apps on iPhone 4 models so I'd assume the 5 can as well.
How does that work? Would they have to be backups? Thought Apple dropped all 32 bit support already
No clue, but I have people install apps for classroom.communication and they're contacting me through their old iOS devices .
Looked it up, they can install old apps but nothing new as iOS 11 required 64bit.
Its kinda silly. Its like some people have to prove that their phone OS is superior. They all have their own pro's and con's, and its just about what you prefer to use.
Logic has nothing to do with discussions about phone or console wars!
Meh, yeah if you root it and install custom roms. Official support stopped at Lollipop which was just 2 years later. iPhone 5 was officially supported up to iOS 10 which is 4 years. And yes if you jailbreak the iPhone you can get iOS 11 on there and install apps.
And I commend you for still using the nexus 4 which doesn't have LTE. How's the battery life?
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lol, I admit I get caught up in the phone wars, but it's just fun to argue about. But, I really do feel the iPhone is the superior product.
My friend's mom borrowed it last summer for a road trip, she said it went great it's not my daily driver but I update it every once in a while and I'm shocked how well it still runs. Battery isn't an issue either.
When people bring up bad Android's it makes me appreciate the good ones that much more. Think the only phone I've had that I disliked was the blackberry priv, garbage phone
In what ways though? iOS feels awful to use, Apple hardware feels premium I'd love an Android device from them but... iOS? :Barf:
What rom are you using? I'm seeing serious battery drain on 8.0.
Every year we hear the same shit and it never translates to real life usage, but congrats on the benchmarks.
The big single threads of the A12 are on par with the desktop CPUs, but the A12 has only 2 of these and desktop cpus have like 8 and 16 threads.
However, it looks like Apple wants to ditch Intel step-by-step
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...an-move-from-intel-to-own-mac-chips-from-2020
Where did I say that?
Lmao.
On par? The A7 was on par. The A12 has a crazy wide execution unit.
Hi, I'm currently using a 4S. Works just fine, despite being 32-bit and unsupported since 2015. I haven't even replaced the battery on it and it still lasts for most of the day with moderate usage. I've been considering upgrading it, but haven't simply because it's still completely usable, if a bit slow when switching apps due to only having 512MB of RAM.
Oh yeah, and I just received updates for apps like Whatsapp and YouTube last week. Every app I have still is regularly updated and works just fine. I kind of doubt that that's the case with your Galaxy S2.
Phones like the Galaxy S2 have 1GB of RAM which is supported under the Go initiative and have access to the store and the like. It's custom ROM but it's all based on Google built tech for specifically for low end phones and is all fully supported by Google Play services.
Sorry but what android phones are you referring to? Flagship phones? As in the same price bracket of the iphone? Because i don't believe you, because i know several people with flagship android phones and they all work fine.
i don't even have a horse in this race because i still have windows phone. But apple fans sometimes pull up the most ridiculous comparisons.
Soon I'm guessing.
Those gals and guys work their asses off at Apple. They have the R&D money and man power to invest in their chipsets and it shows.