In protest against US missile strikes that killed 25 Iran backed fighters; sounds like it might get serious.
Really wish we would just stop bombing people but hey.
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American Embassy in Iraq "Attacked"
- Thread starter TheHunter
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In protest against US missile strikes that killed 25 Iran backed fighters; sounds like it might get serious.
Really wish we would just stop bombing people but hey.
Just want to clarify these protesters aren't the same as the ones that have been going against the government for over 2 months now, they are a bunch of militia under the order of a bunch of criminals.
You realize the bombing was in response to the recent attack that killed 1 American and injured a few more in Iraq right?
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Yes, I'm just tired of all the slaughter in the Middle East in this War on Terror with no clear end-goal in sight or really any clear objectives other than drone strikes and occupying forces.
This part is getting played up significantly in the media but I think its worth noting that in 2016 Iraq passed a law in which it places these PMUs' under the Prime Ministers control and in 2018 officially made them part of Iraq's security apparatus. By bombing them the United States directly attacked the Iraqi state which is why this is causing a major outrage and forces even pro-Arab backed parties in the government (Sadr) to support these protests.
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The fuck are you talking about? I'm an Iraqi and know exactly who those people are.
Maybe understand the situation before attacking other posters. This is a response by militia supporters, not general civilians. Read the fuck up.
To add more to this, the protests that have been going on against the government since October couldn't and weren't allowed to get into the green zone which is where the American embassy is while these protesters did so in a few hours, they are literally lead by the same people that killed over 500 of the protesters against the government so far.
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Which is the "it might get serious" part.
We had to evacuate our personal.
My apologies then, you're indeed better suited to know about this.
Half Iraqi half Lebanese here, these "militias" are the same units that were formed by a Fatwa from Ayatollah Sistani to combat ISIS while they were rampaging through Iraq and the Iraqi army faltered. They sacrificed tens of thousands to liberate Iraq from ISIS while the so called progressives in Baghdad were too busy with their Arguileh.
The American forces are an occupation force, pure and simple, they're still here even after ten years have passed since it was agreed they would leave, an act of resistance against them is justified.
These "militias" are also legally part of the Iraqi army, the US has violated Iraqi sovereignty and attacked a branch of the iraqi army and they're calling for that same army to protect the embassy.
I find any Iraqi who justifies these American actions to be a traitor
The American forces are an occupation force, pure and simple, they're still here even after ten years have passed since it was agreed they would leave, an act of resistance against them is justified.
These "militias" are also legally part of the Iraqi army, the US has violated Iraqi sovereignty and attacked a branch of the iraqi army and they're calling for that same army to protect the embassy.
I find any Iraqi who justifies these American actions to be a traitor
Not that I disagree with you on the American presence, but who is Kateab Hizb funded by?
There is a difference between those that truly fought and sacrificed (you can see them with the people in their protests against the government) and those that follow their leaders which are hadi al amiri and qais al-khazali, both which played a part in killing Iraqis and trying to silence people, every day there are assassinations and kidnapping being done by them, I dare you to go to the civilian protests and tell them that you support or believe in those people, they literally chant against them.
are civilians being assassinated/kidnapped? I've only heard about protest deaths.
Yes, there are 10s of people that haven't been found and 10s other that have been assassinated, they usually go after those who are socially active and have been speaking against them.
Iraq announces three day national mourning for the people the United States military killed.
Prime Minister of Iraq:
Curious to see how US media portrays this since they are largely angling at the "Iran backed forces" narrative.
Prime Minister of Iraq:
Curious to see how US media portrays this since they are largely angling at the "Iran backed forces" narrative.
it's a good thing that trump doesn't seems to want to start a war nowadays, unlike at the beginning of his presidency with North Korea.
Ah so that's worth 10 more years of ... Something...
Making arms dealers more money and doing nothing in the middle east?
Phil Mattingly @Phil_MattinglyThe US embassy is under lock down but has not been evacuated, a US embassy spokesperson tells @arwaCNN & @NicoleCNN, as protests continue outside the diplomatic compound located in Baghdad's Green Zone.
The US ambassador is out on a previously scheduled vacation.
The US ambassador is out on a previously scheduled vacation.
8:37 AM - Dec 31, 2019
How do you / social circle view Russia compared to the USA? Honest curiosity.
What does russia have to do with this? They have little to no influence in iraq.
The US is a occupational force that invaded iraq with a illegal war. The iraqi goverment and it's militias have been surviving on iranian support since ISIS forced the iraqi army to run and this escalation is completely down to americans ripping up a deal that contained iran because they had another tantrum.
So it's Hezbollah? Is that right?
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Same reporter says the staff has been evac'd which directly contradicts the US statement.
its not the same Hezbollah as the one in Lebanon, they're an offshoot. They definitely don't have the same rocket arsenal that Hezbollah has.
Seems pretty obvious what the iraqi goverment thinks of this.
Because America is heavily invested in the Iraqi government since the invasion? Anyway let's see if this turns into an Iran hostage crisis repeat. I doubt it though.
Thanks. Found the wiki which explains exactly as you said. An offshoot that was suspected to be started by the Lebanon variant.
Shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone whose been paying attention. If you search online you'll see videos of the PMU's flag raised in Iraq's Parliament today. Iraqis by in large are not happy with the USA's response.
Oh no the horror! In the words of Slick Rick "Gimme my oil and GTFO out my country".
No objectives is basically the whole point because it creates an endless funnel of money into the military complex without having a real war?
It's been 18 years, with no end in sight as the Iran Nuclear deal was ripped up by cheeto-face.
Trump doesn't give a single shit about any Iraqi, he just wants to stick it to Iran.
"omg but russia and syria" what about them? The US abandoned the Kurds to Erdogan, Syria saw an easy win to get some extra warfighters.
Russia is up in Crimea, waiting for people to just accept it as theirs, meanwhile Trump tries to blackmail dirt on his political riva by withholding aid to the Ukrainians.
Trump doesn't give a single shit about any Iraqi, he just wants to stick it to Iran.
"omg but russia and syria" what about them? The US abandoned the Kurds to Erdogan, Syria saw an easy win to get some extra warfighters.
Russia is up in Crimea, waiting for people to just accept it as theirs, meanwhile Trump tries to blackmail dirt on his political riva by withholding aid to the Ukrainians.
This is going to fall right into his lap and we will be up to our assholes with it at election time.
So we backed Saddam Hussein to prevent Iranian control then later remove Saddam Hussein and now Iraq is generally under Iranian control?
