You made the exact same jump as me!I switched from a i7 6700K to a Ryzen 5800X last month. Don't regret it at all. Congrats to AMD for making a kick-ass line of CPUs.
Is the combo working well? My 3080 should be arriving soon. I have a 3600 as well.
Your phrasing is weird, as if you were actively avoiding AMD despite being aware that it's better lolHonestly, I am just waiting for Intel's response in their next lineup, and price adjustments. AMD has just finally become competitive, so let's hope Intel wakes the fuck up.
If not, only then will I maybe consider AMD.
After decades of being behind, I do not trust AMD's platform to continue beating Intel, and I prefer future-proofing at least a bit in that regard. Yes, AMD has taken a slight lead and Intel has become complacent/is struggling, but I don't trust AMD to keep their lead unless Intel shows they cannot compete in their next lineup.Your phrasing is weird, as if you were actively avoiding AMD despite being aware that it's better lol
But... future proofing in what regard? I mean, if you buy a 11th gen Intel CPU and you want to upgrade to a 12th gen down the road you'll have to buy a new motherboard... just like if you want to upgrade from a Zen 3 CPU to Intel 12th gen. What are you future proofing by choosing Intel vs AMD? If anything, AMD actually has a history of supporting their sockets and chipsets for decent amounts of time lolAfter decades of being behind, I do not trust AMD's platform to continue beating Intel, and I prefer future-proofing at least a bit in that regard. Yes, AMD has taken a slight lead and Intel has become complacent/is struggling, but I don't trust AMD to keep their lead unless Intel shows they cannot compete in their next lineup.
All that matters to me in terms of PC usage is gaming performance -- all other productivity tasks are done on my MBP. I simply am not interested, nor do I care, about PC CPU/GOU performance outside of gaming, since I don't use PC for anything else.
It actually went down in December... Is this less-enthusiasts (don't want to quite say casuals) buying Intel rigs as Xmas gifts?
I mean nothing, if you're building something today, the 5800X seems like a great value. At what point did I say otherwise?But... future proofing in what regard? I mean, if you buy a 11th gen Intel CPU and you want to upgrade to a 12th gen down the road you'll have to buy a new motherboard... just like if you want to upgrade from a Zen 3 CPU to Intel 12th gen. What are you future proofing by choosing Intel vs AMD? If anything, AMD actually has a history of supporting their sockets and chiptets for decent amounts of time lol
Also, AMD beats Intel in gaming so not sure why productivity has any relevance here
I don't get it, my Zen 3 CPU today beats Intel CPUs today, so what am I missing by having made the choice to buy my 5800X? lol
That's fine, I would have waited too if I was willing to hold off for longer. I just didn't understand the future proofing aspectI mean nothing, if you're building something today, the 5800X seems like a great value. At what point did I say otherwise?
I'm not planning on upgrading/building anything new until 2021Q2. I'm waiting on what 11th gent Intel looks like in terms of performance vs. Zen 3/4, whatever is competing from the AMD side at that time.
All that matters to me in terms of PC usage is gaming performance -- all other productivity tasks are done on my MBP. I simply am not interested, nor do I care, about PC CPU/GOU performance outside of gaming, since I don't use PC for anything else.
By all accounts if I had to build something right now I'd go with a 5800X, no questions asked. AMD is simply ahead! I have the luxury of not needing to put anything together for a while yet :)That's fine, I would have waited too if I was willing to hold off for longer. I just didn't understand the future proofing aspect
Yes heavily infront. AMD is great and all but most of the time they only apppear in ethusiast and gaming builds your general consumer will more than likely have an intel cpu 8/10 times. Additionally I went and looked at December Steam survey
Intel: 81%
AMD: 19%
That would include laptops too but yeah gap is huge.
Not only that but Intel about to release some great gaming cpu's that should beat out AMDs offering especially if they price it well.
So what you're essentially saying is that it's nonesense and comes straight out of someone's rear bottom as to why suddenly the only reason AMD is ahead is because enthusiasts (who are a tiny fraction of the market) are doing benchmark enmasse
Pfew, INTEL saved
Is there any sign that Intel might work towards not requiring a new motherboard each new chip? Also to stop locking out motherboard features based on the tier of chip you have? That's what I want them to do to compete as well.
If you only care about gaming the 5600x is the way to go. The 5800x is way overpriced and terrible value imo. The pricepoint of the 5800x is the big reason I delayed my build for a couple of months. 480-500ā¬ for an 8C CPU is just crazy.I mean nothing, if you're building something today, the 5800X seems like a great value. At what point did I say otherwise?
I'm not planning on upgrading/building anything new until 2021Q2. I'm waiting on what 11th gent Intel looks like in terms of performance vs. Zen 3/4, whatever is competing from the AMD side at that time.
It's understandable to require a motherboard update to make use of CPUs that require something like DDR5, just like we did for DDR4 coming from DDR3, but to require a new motherboard going from intel chip to intel chip with no major tech change just makes me never want to upgrade until something like DDR5 is out because I have to change the whole motherboard just to support the new chip.There will probably be a lot of advancement in motherboards over the next few years. DDR5, PCI-E 5, and USB 4 are all supposed to be coming to consumer parts within the next 2 years. With DDR5 I expect we will see speeds increase with the first few generations of products.
What I'm saying is that I'm not sure people will be as concerned with holding onto old motherboards across multiple generations of CPUs the way they were in the past few years when changes to Intel boards were pretty incremental.
Awesome, thanks for the info. I have a planned build/upgrade later in the year, so hopefully in a few months when 11th gen intel is out and nVidia's GPUs are actually purchasable will be a good time to build.If you only care about gaming the 5600x is the way to go. The 5800x is way overpriced and terrible value imo. The pricepoint of the 5800x is the big reason I delayed my build for a couple of months. 480-500ā¬ for an 8C CPU is just crazy.
The 5800x is in the same terrible product category as the 3800x & 3800xt were except there is no "3700x" you can buy right now for Zen 3. Hopefully this will correct itself in a couple of months when Intel releases Rocket Lake. AMD will have to release a 5700x to compete with the 11700k.
Well, yeah, not a lot to beat considering that Intel's current desktop lineup is still based on Skylake from 2015.I might go AMD for my next build. Apparently they even beat Intel's single thread performance on their latest CPUs? Wow if true.
But it also doesn't capture all the AMD cpus in "machines for businesses, schools, and other more casual users of pre-built machines" so I don't really understand your point.
Have the 3600 and it is the low price king AMD deserves this win.Well deserved. I love my Zen 3 CPU, the single threaded performance increase is just unreal being used to Intel doing absolutely nothing each gen
How many AMD cpus are actually going in computers in those places? I have to imagine its a pretty small percentage. Out of the hundreds of computers I've used in multiple schools and jobs, all of them were Intel. Probably all low spec i3 and i5 machines, or at least all the ones I've checked.
Its possible things have changed in the past couple years, but I've yet to see an AMD powered Dell Optiplex or HP Elite or whatever equivalent desktop.