Anything to back it up?
Good news indeed. The bitcoin madness drove prices sky high."AMD CDNA architecture for GPU-based compute accelerators. GPUs without raster hardware is happening." -> So these are gonna be used for bitcoin mining and other hash operations that are compute intensive... No more infighting for graphics cards!
This would be incredibly stupid thing to do as it would kill a lot of synergy inside a GPU lineup. The only reason they are doing this now is because they have the last GCN remnant in the form of Arcturus which is pointless as a gaming GPU in RDNA era. It will die out eventually and all their GPUs will switch to RDNA, including the HPC ones."AMD CDNA architecture for GPU-based compute accelerators. GPUs without raster hardware is happening." -> So these are gonna be used for bitcoin mining and other hash operations that are compute intensive... No more infighting for graphics cards!
Well unless you have a hand in the tape out process during the fab then you won't know first, but learn as with the rest of us when there is a deep breakdown by likes of Digital Foundry or Anandtech... But personally I bet for AMD 'advanced node' means their version of 7nm+.All these nodes are "advanced nodes". It just means that they aren't sure about the node which RDNA3 will use - it may be 6 or 5 or 7 again.
Xbox One Sales Reach 50 Million In New Turtle Beach Earnings Call
A recent Turtle Beach earnings call for this quarter has given the total of Xbox One sales as having reached 50 million, around half as much as the numbersegmentnext.com
A. You can't mine bitcoins on GPUs.
Again: all these nodes are considered as "advanced" in the industry right now, including Intel's 10nm and such. It just means "bleeding edge node", nothing more.Well unless you have a hand in the tape out process during the fab then you won't know first, but learn as with the rest of us when there is a deep breakdown by likes of Digital Foundry or Anandtech... But personally I bet for AMD 'advanced node' means their version of 7nm+.
That means 44+ for Ms /s
I feel like they are at these numbers since forever
Yup, feels like it's been around this amount forever.
Anything to back it up?
That makes more sense. Otherwise it would have been stuck at 45 for a while. Wich doesnt make sense offcourse.
They won't be GPUs per se they will be marketed differently and to just serious platform builders anyway. Not to people on the market for graphics cards, that's why it is said as 'compute accelerators' -> think like Nvidia QuadroThis would be incredibly stupid thing to do as it would kill a lot of synergy inside a GPU lineup. The only reason they are doing this now is because they have the last GCN remnant in the form of Arcturus which is pointless as a gaming GPU in RDNA era. It will die out eventually and all their GPUs will switch to RDNA, including the HPC ones.
44 million would be a pretty bad dropoff for MS. This gen has been a disaster for them.
Ya'll keep misusing disaster. Xbox One was a disappointment but performed solidly. The Wii U was a disaster.Math.
Sony is at 108.9m and AMD said 150m so the difference is 41.1m.
But if AMD is using a rounded number like Zhuge claims I don't know so we can only trust him in that case.
And honestly it's not like 50m changes the situation. Xbox One has been a disaster for MS in terms of sales.
Math.
Sony is at 108.9m and AMD said 150m so the difference is 41.1m.
But if AMD is using a rounded number like Zhuge claims I don't know so we can only trust him in that case.
And honestly it's not like 50m changes the situation. Xbox One has been a disaster for MS in terms of sales.
This. Lol.50M is p solid imo. Sure PS4 is a beast, but considering how MS started this gen (as in that X1 presentation) this could've gone waaaaay worse.
A. Wrong. You can.A. You can't mine bitcoins on GPUs.
B. You can still mine crypto tokens on RDNA GPUs. If the prices will go into the sky again it will likely be way more economical to do this again instead of purchasing a server "compute accelerator" GPU for $5000.
It's why most reasonable people are expecting a better showing for the next Xbox. 44 million is not a disaster but I guess that's the way you want to interpret things. It started off as a disaster but thankflly Phil got better support from the new CEO. Since then they've rectified the power disadvantage with beautifully designed new hardware, made waves being more pro-consumer with how they've handled BC and crossplay GamePass plus PC support, and doubled their studios.44 million would be a pretty bad dropoff for MS. This gen has been a disaster for them.
Nvidia Quadro is not a "compute accelerator", it's a professional videocard made on the same GPUs you see in GeForce. You're thinking about Tesla. But Tesla uses a dedicated silicon only in the highest end of the spectrum - and it's still a fully capable GPU (Volta GV100) which you can build a videocard on (i.e. Titan V).They won't be GPUs per se they will be marketed differently and to just serious platform builders anyway. Not to people on the market for graphics cards, that's why it is said as 'compute accelerators' -> think like Nvidia Quadro
A. You can't. Learn a bit before saying "wrong" to me about these things.A. Wrong. You can.
B. So you claim to know or even predict their asking price even though the hw isn't even produced but only on the roadmap. Got it!
Xbox One is at 44 million at least. Who knows how much over that they are.
To be precised, it's 108.9m as of Dec 31 2019 for Sony (shipped therefore already manufactured) and AMD probably took shipped numbers from Sony's fiscal report to do their estimates (shipped numbers > sold-through numbers to inflate their own stat)
That means 44+ for Ms /s
I feel like they are at these numbers since forever
Just kinda shows how poorly the platform has performed outside of the NA and UK territories, really.
Either way, that seems like healthy number between two consoles. Lower than the previous gen, probably, but healthy.
44 million would be a pretty bad dropoff for MS. This gen has been a disaster for them.
A. You can't. Learn a bit before saying "wrong" to me about these things.
B. You expect them to sell this "compute accelerator" for the price of 5600XT?
Claims in October 2019 were that 7nm+ has comparable yields as 7nm:If you look at the rumored die sizes of the Big Navi chips, they are quite large, I don't think they are on 7nm+ IMO.
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/mi...acturing_-_euv_manufacturing_for_the_masses/1TSMC has announced that their 7nm+ (N7+) lithography technology has entered high volume manufacturing and is already offering similar yields to the company's original 7nm (N7) process.
Math.
Sony is at 108.9m and AMD said 150m so the difference is 41.1m.
But if AMD is using a rounded number like Zhuge claims I don't know so we can only trust him in that case.
And honestly it's not like 50m changes the situation. Xbox One has been a disaster for MS in terms of sales.
Sure you could. But you couldn't already even back during the last mining craze and you sure can't now - you can technically but you will essentially be spending money on electricity and gaining nothing as a result; not sure if this can even be considered "mining".Regarding your A statement.
a.) You could before. (coming from someone that did it back in the early days)
Have no idea if that statement holds firm now, but I think the difficulty is too high already. It started to get harder back then
I know all of this. They used to talk about 7nm+ in their sides as well. To me, this is very odd.Claims in October 2019 were that 7nm+ has comparable yields as 7nm:
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/mi...acturing_-_euv_manufacturing_for_the_masses/1
Currently I see no reason to believe that AMD changed plans.
I just see it as an oversight or AMD generalizing 7nm nodes.I know all of this. They used to talk about 7nm+ in their sides as well. To me, this is very odd.
Sure you could. But you couldn't already even back during the last mining craze and you sure can't now - you can technically but you will essentially be spending money on electricity and gaining nothing as a result; not sure if this can even be considered "mining".
Maybe someone can start a thread arguing about console sales numbers.
DudeA. You can't. Learn a bit before saying "wrong" to me about these things.
B. You expect them to sell this "compute accelerator" for the price of 5600XT?
We'll get one here soon.Maybe someone can start a thread arguing about console sales numbers.
I am not ruling that out.