-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
-
We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
Include it with Prime in Australia and I'll try it out. Otherwise nah, pretty over this feudal renting of content.
that's why they copied the Switch Pro! because it's the only incompatible one
Ah nice,thats interesting then,I mean Stadia tech wise works like a charm for me so if this is the same but the games are included in the sub...
Never understood why google doesn't just use proton. The only thing that doesn't really work on it is anticheat which is pointless when you are streaming through the cloud anyways.
XCloud should hit Aus in H1 2021 according to Phil Spencer the other day. Our internet is good enough for a lot of people to use it, they just need to get it all installed in our Azure servers.
Amazon has 3 availability zones in Australia so technically they have the capability there but I'd imagine their data
centers might require some new hardware
Yeah, but has any major player made such a big app that bypasses the app store system?
I'm really not aware of any
That's a good point. Also a tricky way around Apple's rules if they did release an app on the App Store. You would be watching a video stream on the device but the interactive element would be outside of the app. Would the app still technically be considered interactive? Would viewing your own stream on Twitch while using the Luna controller violate developer agreements? I could see lots of legal arguments about what constitutes an interactive app in this case
They're circumventing the App Store by running in a web app on mobile Safari
Yeah, we'll have to wait and see. The speculation is $15, but that would be colossally stupid.
Web browser, not the App Store.
Nintendo is in the portable market, streaming services is about being able to play anywhere. Nintendo has that. Sony at the moment is pretty much half not the case.
I still think this thing is nearly dead on arrival, and will struggle to limp along to relevancy. The only reason xCloud is an interesting value proposition is because:
A) It's included within a subscription plan that a lot of people are likely already going to pursue
B) Microsoft is currently an existing platform holder, with a large breadth of internal studios and existing IPs, and existing partnerships from its two decades in the industry
C) Even though you're playing through the cloud, the platform itself is Xbox - so you're not having to worry about the lack of an install base
They can definitely package this with Amazon Prime as a trojan horse, but points B and C are going to be tougher hurdles to jump through. I can see why privately held companies would be willing to sell themselves to Microsoft, given they're a known quantity and there's stability with that. Will enough Public or Private entities want to tie themselves to Amazon, who hasn't really demonstrated a longterm commitment to gaming and whose experience thus far has been lackluster?
A) It's included within a subscription plan that a lot of people are likely already going to pursue
B) Microsoft is currently an existing platform holder, with a large breadth of internal studios and existing IPs, and existing partnerships from its two decades in the industry
C) Even though you're playing through the cloud, the platform itself is Xbox - so you're not having to worry about the lack of an install base
They can definitely package this with Amazon Prime as a trojan horse, but points B and C are going to be tougher hurdles to jump through. I can see why privately held companies would be willing to sell themselves to Microsoft, given they're a known quantity and there's stability with that. Will enough Public or Private entities want to tie themselves to Amazon, who hasn't really demonstrated a longterm commitment to gaming and whose experience thus far has been lackluster?
Stuff like this will never replace Nintendo and Sony, it's a great way to play 3rd party games though for cheap
It most definitely WILL replace Nintendo and Sony if they don't adapt.
No a lot of Nintendo and Sony fan base come from first party games, cloud streaming is good for 3rd party stuff though
this is why exclusives are more important now than ever
lol no, look at the massive hype for PS5 and XSX and tell me consoles are going away
Given that thrid-party games make up the majority of software sales on consoles, Amazon could very well attract a lot of third-party publishers to its platform due to the sheer size of the Prime and Twitch audiences. Amazon could compete very effectively, especially if they subsidize the subscription cost a bit if you already subscribe to Prime or Twitch.
Google I'm less sure about. They have YouTube, but the Stadia pricing model is so bad up against Luna and Game Pass.
It comes down how long they can fund developing those exclusive games when a large majority of gamers have moved over to the streaming platforms. Especially Sony when most of their exclusives are very big budget.
They might find it difficult enticing people to go out and spend $500 on a console and $70 a game when your tv has these streaming app built in, all you need is a reitivly cheap subscription and a controller.
I'm going to guess that once out of Early Access, Luna+ will be
$5.99/mo. for Prime members
$9.99/mo. without Prime
They aren't going to add this as part of Prime. People would lose their shit if Prime got a price increase for this, and they're not going to give it away for free.
$5.99/mo. for Prime members
$9.99/mo. without Prime
They aren't going to add this as part of Prime. People would lose their shit if Prime got a price increase for this, and they're not going to give it away for free.
Nah people aren't going to stop playing Mario just because there's a streaming service
they could pull away the casual pc gamer though since the cloud service has the exact same games for a cheaper price
At least business and product-wise, Amazon made better decisions vs Google on how to price and offer the service.
Maybe they lucked out by hiring Marc Whitten (former Xbox) and Google fucked up by hiring Phil Harrison (Sony and Atari). I always felt Harrison was out of touch with core fans.
They can and Apple even suggests they do.
"In addition to the App Store, developers can choose to reach all iPhone and iPad users over the web through Safari and other browsers on the App Store."
Apple Explains Why Xbox Game Pass Won't Launch on iOS, Microsoft Responds - IGN
Apple has explained why its guidelines won't permit Xbox Game Pass to publish on its App Store, and Microsoft has now responded.
There is a potential issue with Bluetooth controllers working in Safari, Amazon is bypassing this by having it's controller connect directly to the server over WiFi.
The business model make a lot more sense here than what Google went with.
I guess Stadia was also able to bypass this for the same reason or are they not compatible with Safari?
I do think Nintendo has a better chance at weathering this, it's Sony I'm more worried about.
The Amazon Music subscription is $80 annual charge or $7.99/mo. with Prime, or $9.99 per month stand alone. For gaming, I imagine they'll offer similar options, but maybe a bit more expensive due to higher bandwidth usage. I highly doubt it's $5.99/mo stand alone.
At the end of the day, technology is secondary to the games. You can have an awesome streaming service, but if the only games you can offer are old games people have already played, or third party titles people can play elsewhere, you're never going to replace your rivals. Even if Nintendo and Sony go down a completely different route, I can only play Mario and Zelda on a Nintendo console - and therefore will continue to buy whatever Nintendo puts out to get those games.
I sometimes think we forget the actual games themselves and the power of first party IP. Sony and Nintendo both excel in that area and I dont see that changing any time soon.
I sometimes think we forget the actual games themselves and the power of first party IP. Sony and Nintendo both excel in that area and I dont see that changing any time soon.
Stadia could, no idea why Google doesn't go this route as well. As we both know, they don't always make the best choices.
I didn't know he left Sonos. That must be very interesting for Spencer to be competing directly against two former colleagues, Harrison with Stadia and Whitten with Luna.