I don't know, empathy?
Copying the original serverside code is definitely piracy. I mean that should not be in doubt ever.Never played this but it really doesn't seem like it was ever hurting anyone for this game to stay alive on fan-run servers. Clearly NCSoft decided that the game wasn't worth it for them to run it anymore, so why should they care if someone else decides to run it?
As an aside, I wonder if people consider this a form of piracy, similar to an abandonware scenario?
They are now saying on Discord that there was no C&D from NCSoft, and some random developer just got spooked or something.
Innocuous/Glory to Arachnos said:Innocuous/Glory to Arachnos I dag kl. 22:42
Things may not be as nuclearly fucked as I was lead to be presented with. Please hold tight. I am not posting a GFM, it may not be needed.
Innocuous/Glory to ArachnosI said:Innocuous/Glory to ArachnosI dag kl. 23:08
We are drafting a general update.
Questions I can answer right now:
1.) We do not currently have the server binaries right now. We do not physically have them.
2. We are not giving up, every single one of us is looking at the outcomes and directions to go to.
3. Hope is not lost. Seriously. Coderbus, calm down. People in the community, calm down. We are working to figure out a solution as well as get some spatial awareness on what is going on.
4. The previous plan of forming an LLC may not need to be formed. So, once again, please calm down. This is a panic spiral and we are trying to collect ourselves.
I just wish I could understand NCSoft's position on this.
People have literally offered to BUY the IP.
But instead they sit on it, dead, and not even let people play a private server.
Its just PETTY.
I know NCSoft has every right to do this. But this is an incredibly poor look, i've never been a fan of the "I ain't doing anything with this, but you better not touch it" mentality some publishers have. Even Square Enix will let people use some of their legacy IP if their pitch is good enough.
So just the usual panic storm?They are now saying on Discord that there was no C&D from NCSoft, and some random developer just got spooked or something.
Innocuous/Glory to Arachnos said:Innocuous/Glory to Arachnos I dag kl. 23:52
As of now, we are running on the assumption that there is no DMCA. We have a drive that we are currently verifying on if it's the server binaries. As it stands, it has everything.
There has been some fuckups that lead to mass server panic, and an emergency administration and codemod meeting has been called.
We may very well be able to salvage this situation before the next sunset. No promises. Do not hold this against me.
We have a gameplan. It depends on verifying this code right now. Once it is achieved, we are pushing to get a server back up immediately.
The original goal of the server has been to get a stable i24 for distribution and by the Well of the Furies we will get it. This chaos was unprofessional on my part (partly from my inexperience), and triggers were being pulled before we even had the horses at the races.
We will also be futureproofing future development to make sure this kind of clusterfuck will never happen again.
Also, allow me to be blunt and address this once and for all. FOR FUCKS SAKE, STOP HOPPING LEANDRO'S DICK THE MOMENT ANYTHING HAPPENS. MYSELF INCLUDED
Examples?
Not because I dont believe you I just love times when pubs are ok with it
You are the kind of kid who yelled for the teacher when you saw people passing notes in class, weren't you?I don't get the point of defending people who would not have ever included you.
I don't get the point of defending people who would not have ever included you.
Why would you play an MMO without the community?They put in the work to enjoy something they love and you didn't. Why do they have to include anyone outside of their group? They don't. You aren't entitled to anything.
they *are* the community
But they loved it enough to form a community and find a way to play it. they don't owe you anything because you have a similar interestOnly because they knew someone.
A lot of us loved CoH and its sad we can't play it unless we were part of some elite ass club.
They were handed the server code on a silver platter which they used to create their own exclusive secret club. The only work they put in was engaging in a campaign of gaslighting the tight-knit CoX community, sabotaging other efforts to create private servers and conducting a conspiracy to hide the existence and deny even the possiblity of a private ever existing.They put in the work to enjoy something they love and you didn't. Why do they have to include anyone outside of their group? They don't. You aren't entitled to anything.
But they loved it enough to form a community and find a way to play it. they don't owe you anything because you have a similar interest
They kept it a secret literally for the reason this thread even existsAnd that justifies fucking gaslighting the community and banning people on reddit who dared to reveal their secret little club?
They haven't actually been struck with legal action yet but okayThey kept it a secret literally for the reason this thread even exists
This shit isn't that hard
By my (limited) understanding, this all started because an assumed troll impersonated an NCSoft employee and convinced the person responsible for hosting the servers to wipe everything and take it all down.
As far as we know, NCSoft was not involved in this at all. It was simply the act of a random person wanting to get a kick out of it. The details around it are a bit hazy, but the bottom line is NCSoft had nothing to do with what occurred today.
It looks like we're kind of back to where we were last week when the code was originally released. Code is out there but not in a running format, folks are working on things, stay tuned.
They haven't actually been struck with legal action yet but okay
Btw the best way to actually ensure the game will live on forever is to release the code openly and freely in the first place when one of the original game devs handed them the code
Once it's out there you won't be able to take down the wider community