ABC News: Bill Nye says record-breaking extreme heat 'a taste of the normal of the future'
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But at least Marvel vs Capcom 2 is back! As long as we can keep consuming, everything will be fine :)
How do you get people to dump their gas cars when every EV manufacturer wants to fuck around in 40-50k minimum pricce points?
I mean...yeah.
Scientists have been saying it for years.
I mean I feel like this is the same as saying "If you make under 50k a year, you can't do anything to help."
Scientists have been saying it for years.
I mean I feel like this is the same as saying "If you make under 50k a year, you can't do anything to help."
I don't mean to be performative about it.
It's just getting really depressing, as you say. And the constant doomer discussions with nary a speck of hope left for the future. Might as well go out on your own terms right when the bomb drops.
I'm certainly not planning to stay in New Jersey, with its wonderful combination of boiling heat and suffocating humidity. And I work outside, for fuck's sake.
Been planning a retreat to the Great Lakes for a few years, hopefully before the land rush really ramps up.
Been planning a retreat to the Great Lakes for a few years, hopefully before the land rush really ramps up.
I'm not a single issue voter, but the closest I come is for climate issues. It will never not make me angry, furious even that nothing was done in the 1960s-1990s, when changing our trajectory would have been so much easier.
We still have to fight for every tenth of a degree. And that means everyone in the west - me very much included- accepting a lifestyle that involves less luxury and less stuff. There is no world where fast fashion and eating red meat every other day is sustainable. None.
We also should be researching geoengineering ideas, IMO. Not deploying. But researching.
1. Burn less fuel (via airplanes, cars, or other motors)
2. Eat less meat (especially red meat)
3. Buy less stuff.
Options 2 and 3 are available to everyone even if option 1 is not.
New normal isn't saying things will peak soon. But that this extreme we're experiencing now could be the median of the future - which yes, also means that there might be cooler years.
We still have to fight for every tenth of a degree. And that means everyone in the west - me very much included- accepting a lifestyle that involves less luxury and less stuff. There is no world where fast fashion and eating red meat every other day is sustainable. None.
We also should be researching geoengineering ideas, IMO. Not deploying. But researching.
Human beings will not go extinct from climate change.
The biggest impact things any common person can do are:
1. Burn less fuel (via airplanes, cars, or other motors)
2. Eat less meat (especially red meat)
3. Buy less stuff.
Options 2 and 3 are available to everyone even if option 1 is not.
It has accelerated both long-term because our CO2 output is still growing, and short term because we're in a strong El Niño cycle.
It's not going to be a linear year by year increase. Tons of factors affect year-by-year temps, like El Niño I mentioned above, which is why one year of >1.5C temps isn't enough to declare it the new average.
New normal isn't saying things will peak soon. But that this extreme we're experiencing now could be the median of the future - which yes, also means that there might be cooler years.
EVs are not available to everyone and every income, but eating less animal products and buying less stuff (especially electronics, disposables, and plastic goods generally) very much are. They'll help everyone save money..
I didn't say anything about EV cars. One of my coworkers got a van and now we're carpooling to work. Just a few people left at my work to come with their own car. Maybe not big enough impact but we're doing our part.
Yeah I know this can be a harder thing to do for people with kids or people living in overly car dependent cities but there's always something you can do. Nobody have their hands tied.
Nothing will be done as to how we collectively live. So long as we adhere to a lot of the bullshit we've imposed onto the world, this will continue. Infinite growth will come with growing heat levels, because we're literally burning alive by living with this axiom.
I'm just not convinced people will abandon their cars en masse without a same convenience level alternative, which is the problem
June has been pretty mild in Germany this year, so of course the denialists are out in force, because a single milder summer in a single country apparently means worldwide climate change is cancelled
Yep, it's pretty much impossible and we have to do the impossible. Don't forget, progress has two parts: you take action and you convince others to take action. Just don't give in to defeatism. Do your part. Preach. Preach to the very end. A whole continent converted to Christianity thanks to endless preaching, you have more capability then 1st century figures.
We switched to carpool and we didn't end it there. Asked others to do same. They declined. Asked again. Declined again. Annoyed them to the point of giving up. Now we have 9 carpools carrying 8-9 people each. about 50 less cars used every day. Did we convince the whole country to use less cars? No. But we sure made the change that we could.
Didn't Brazil get absolutely torched last winter too? Hopefully you get some relief. I don't know what a typical winter is like in Brazil, but it can't be this.
Can't wait for the Italians who voted for xenophobic policies to move north out of necessity. It's only a matter of time.
Why would the US invade a country that's broiling? It's invading Canada for their habitable climate that's inevitable.
The people in power that have the ability to make positive change are making too much money to care.
It would stay this bad temporarily and hopefully regress if we stopped pumping ghg into the atmosphere right now. But we're pushing full steam ahead, so things are only going to get worse until we make drastic changes to our civilization. We'll be lucky if we avoid a complete systems collapse.
A good number of people died if they didn't convert, so it was by no means a peaceful process. The transition to whatever way of life we're looking at in the future will likely not be a peaceful process either.
For the record I would absolutely slap solar panels onto my home and replace my automobile with an electric one if I had the income to do so.
I can't move to most of EU or NYC anymore, I've decided. I will not tolerate the bullshit of 85F/30C+ weather in April-June like is happening in much of the world but NYC and EU are notorious for no a/c in homes/public spaces and that is just fucking insane given climate change and sorry I just won't. Which is sad cuz I'm at a science conference and lots want to hire me but in EU and besides EU pay being abysmal I just won't tolerate the heat here in Italy and other places without a/c. Had to drag 100 lbs in suitcases across long stretches of cobblestone in 90F weather a couple days ago here in Italy and I was like…okay I'm done, never again with that lol
Humans will need to relocate to Canada and new places that used to be too cold. PNW for life.
And quit fucking moving to places like Houston and Phoenix for fuck sake
I hope shit doesn't hit the fan till me and my SO are long dead, I'm doing my part by being very eco-friendly or whatever but I don't expect humanity to do even a fraction of what actually needs to be done.
People will not even stop eating meat, and that kinda includes me but I did stop eating beef more than a year ago.
We're also completely fucked over here lmao
People will not even stop eating meat, and that kinda includes me but I did stop eating beef more than a year ago.
We're also completely fucked over here lmao
People still stop eating meat if meat isn't readily available or is way too inconvenient to acquire, because then the choice is then made for them. We are products of our environment and will thus act accordingly to what the environment offers and encourages.
So while we should be encouraging individual action, we should be simultaneously finding ways to force politicians to act on the will of human well-being, because at this point we need drastic force. By the time we'll have convinced half the population of omnivorous humans to cut their meat consumption we'll be underwater.
I'd have done it ten years ago, can't even afford to put new windows and doors in it, shit is extremely expensive around here.
And a heat pump, lol, shit will cost a fortune.
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The issue is, and always will be, it doesn't matter if I go vegan or recycle a plastic bottle or only use self-generated renewable energy.... until governments and corporations take it seriously the "bitter end" is going to be a lot quicker.
The electric to power your EV doesn't necessarily come from a renewable source, it kicks the issue elsewhere.
Nah the real issue is the chronic pessimism and defeatism. You are absolutely correct about how governments and corporations aren't doing their parts at all and what you're doing could mean for nothing. Yes there are tons of issues still remain, still lots of things have massive carbon footprints. But you're not the one to solve that issue. You have to do what YOU can do. No matter how dire the situation is you will keep doing it. Don't give in to defeatism, avoid thoughts like "me not buying plastic bottles wouldn't count for anything". It does. It really does. Do it and have others do it as well.
Don't get me wrong, I still do my part. If nothing else, I feel like my waste is still my responsibility.
I would just like to see the same responsibility applied to the highest polluters.
Actually the best thing you could do is simply drive your current gas car until the wheels come off. Just not buying shit has a more positive impact than replacing a perfectly fine existing vehicle with a new thing that isn't needed
Man. He sounds rightfully pissed about how people haven't listened to the warnings, particularly when she asked if he is surprised by how fast it's now happening.
My husband also is of the opinion fusion is the way to go and it's sad to hear there is only a few groups even looking into it.
My husband also is of the opinion fusion is the way to go and it's sad to hear there is only a few groups even looking into it.
The ocean is done being the heatsink for humanity's industrial activities. It's now absorbing the equivalent of 14 Hiroshimas per second of heat and that trajectory is not going to reverse in our lifetimes (honestly, for many millennia lmao).
Globalleadersdespoilers doubling our carbon pollution from 1.25 to 2.5 trillion tons in only 35 years means that Earth will continue to warm for another 60 years (just from our pollution and not the natural sources we've agitated into becoming positive feedback loops) even if someone could Thanos snap all our emissions to zero due to C02's lag effect on the atmosphere. Drastic action needed to happen yesterday but the reality is that capitalists have locked us into nothing but bad endings. The only thing we have control over now is the severity of the disaster future generations will have to bear for the rest of human existence on this planet. It won't be pretty but there will be far less people suffering on our depleted home once it fully plays out.
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There is serious work being done on it but progress is slow. I've heard people joke it's been 10 years away for 30 years now.