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ABC: 2nd whistleblower with first-hand knowledge of Trump's dealings with Ukraine has come forward, his attorney says
- Thread starter chadskin
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I dont get why you need a whistleblower or multiple whistleblowers? Trump has admitted on live TV to the offences he's committed and the offences he will continue to make.
More and more, I begin to think it is. They're just like "Well... if it saves the unborn babies then..."
People have gotten so used to trump acting like this that it's considered "normal". So we have this weird dynamic where he gets in more trouble for saying something in secret rather than out loud.
We're passing a cultural kidney stone.
I love how certain communities and outlets cannot actually react or talk about news as it happens without literally reading disseminated propaganda first. 🤣 Just enough self awareness and experience to make them weary of preemptively disagreeing with the inevitable official batshit talking points. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love how certain communities and outlets cannot actually react or talk about news as it happens without literally reading disseminated propaganda first. 🤣 Just enough self awareness and experience to make them weary of preemptively disagreeing with the inevitable official batshit talking points. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"But first lets being on former Trump Campaign manager to give their take. And after the the break we'll be talking to Roseanne Barr!"
Gonna repeat what I said in the "50% of Americans polled support removal from office" thread:
FIRE
EVERYTHING
If there was any time to get some dirt off your chest, now is the time while the spotlight is bright.
After the sheepish chewing out he got at his testimony I'm thinking he'll act right this time because again, everyone is watching for a slip up now.
Remember when Trump admitted on national television that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation? Good times.
Dox via what? The trump admin? They knew it was CIA the second the CIA lawyer talked to the WH lawyer (weeks before NYT reported it).
Hate to be a "nothing will come of this" guy, but I do agree with this tweet.
It doesn't matter how many whistleblowers there are, or if he literally stood on a street corner and shot people, he can just deny everything and face no consequences ever because his supporters are death cultists who have gained total control of the country.
It doesn't matter how many whistleblowers there are, or if he literally stood on a street corner and shot people, he can just deny everything and face no consequences ever because his supporters are death cultists who have gained total control of the country.
I don't. The texts Volker gave are more damming than Trump's lawn announcement. Trump's afraid of proof of quid pro quo, because he can't spin that as being fine. His base/some swing indis view his lawn announcement like it was either a joke or really no big deal since he's draining the swamp.
Yeah, but the next big thing will be spun as a joke/misinterpreted as well, as will the one after that. There is no limit to spin and it will continue to work every time, because, y'know, death cult.
Not on all of them. There's already been some movement on pubs and indis.
Hell, there are even a section of dems left to flip.
The spin isn't working though. Every new poll shows more support for impeachment. If the evidence keeps racking up, along with polls continuing this way, it might be the start of something on Senate Republican's end. I know, still a long shot.
The public didn't know though.
Do you remember pipe bombs?
The death threats to Congressmen and women?
Those don't come from the White House (or Russia). They came from every day people motivated from Trump.
The point is that there seems to be no consequence for the crimes at all, it doesn't matter how many are uncovered or who uncovers them.
Any loss of popularity will be easily wiped out in 2020 by gerrymandering, voter suppression, and cooking election results outright.
Even if Trump himself commits a million times, it's still valuable to gather as much evidence as possible on who else was involved. As long as they keep sending out subpoenas, scheduling hearings and depositions, and people keep leaking, it'll stay in the news. The longer it stays in the news and the more corrupt Republicans as a whole look, the better off we'll be in senate races. There's more at stake than Trump's removal.
I have no reason to believe this is the case, but I don't know why my immediate fear was this is another Avenatti type lawyer. I'm just that paranoid.
Trump already checkmated the whistleblowers by admitting he did it. And now he's campaigning on the fact that he did it.
But something is happening: he's getting his ass impeached and with every revelation and every whistleblower the evidence of his wrongdoin gets bigger and bigger. So no, this isn't one of those moments...
yes, they can. If they can testify to/have evidence of Trump holding back funds for Ukraine in order to extort them, things look much worse for Trump.
the consequences are dropping poll numbers, getting impeached, and stopping this administration from doing what it wants to do.
Really enjoy your insight that there's nothing that can be done and we'll lose anyway
Whats the point of this?
Trump will simply say that whatever he did is not against the law, even though its obviously is, and Republicans and his base will continue to support him.
For years now Trump has committed crime after crime and despite ample evidence nothing ever happened.
Trump has control of the DOJ, he effectively is above the law now, so I really doubt that his illegal activity or any legal process can remove him from office.
Trump will simply say that whatever he did is not against the law, even though its obviously is, and Republicans and his base will continue to support him.
For years now Trump has committed crime after crime and despite ample evidence nothing ever happened.
Trump has control of the DOJ, he effectively is above the law now, so I really doubt that his illegal activity or any legal process can remove him from office.
I imagine that unless something actionable is happening like holding the subponeaed parties in contempt and started charging them fines/holding them in a cell it won't gain as much traction. That or its a Sunday morning so people are still asleep/waking up.
This may be the most shit, defeatist post I've ever read on here. And that's saying something.
This should destroy The stupid "but it was secondhand knowledge" argument
Ah, yes. Time to give up then. Thank you for setting us straight.
This is literally word for word what sad sacks like you were saying in the lead up to 2018.