That's the thing. I really don't. I don't treat women like objects at all, and have actively avoided being responsible for them feeling that way. For instance, a friend I had a crush on slept over, got really drunk and wanted me to sleep in the same bed like we had the other night (before which she'd said she didn't think she wanted to have sex and we didn't). I helped her up to bed, told her I was going back to the living room for a little while and then slept on the couch, waking up to texts asking if I was mad at her. I just didn't want to be a regret, or for her to do anything she regretted while drunk, or take advantage of her. If I looked at them as objects, I wouldn't have done that and would've been called a pervert or creep or anything like that once in my life when I have not.
... I thought most employers would try to keep that stuff on the QT. How did that get out in the open???
i like to imagine OPs gradually warmed up to the guy who licks his butt-sweat covered fingers at his work and is now concerned for his employment
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-just-saw-a-man-pick-his-butt-and-lick-his-finger.79989/
I dunno man it's 2018 and I feel like I can't even puff out my big-ass red sac anymore without being accused of sexual harassment.
At the guys saying that there is skill involved in looking at a woman without her noticing.
We always know. :P
The fuck is wrong with yall. Keep that silly shit at the bar. Yall ain't there to chill and check out folks. Fucking up your paper cause you creeping.
The woman told her co-workers which led to: "Oh! I know him" and so on...
Misogynists would rather play the victim card themselves, and unfortunately there are always other misogynists providing support. It's especially easy with today's internet to find a social bubble that provide the like-minded opinions they seek.
YeahhhhThe woman told her co-workers which led to: "Oh! I know him" and so on...
Sounds to me like this isn't the first time he has harassed someone at work.The woman told her co-workers which led to: "Oh! I know him" and so on...
Or as I said much much much earlier in this very thread.
Keep it out of the bar too.
and OP knows it, which is why OP thinks "good friend" might actually lose his job instead of just being reprimandedSounds to me like this isn't the first time he has harassed someone at work.
Lmao. This plus the avatar of the person you're replying to makes me think you know each other.
LOL. Dammit!As chief representative of Straight White Men, LLC, I have to inform you that white people have been aware of dime since the Ying Yang Twins put out that song.
I like how he's so undeniably nasty but directed sexism and casual defense of your wrongful actions is so acceptable. At least that guy isn't hurting anyone. To this new coworker of yours, you and your friend are the nasty ones in need of avoidance.Lol. No
That dude is absolutely nasty. I see him around and just avoid him.
If she's such an objectivly perfect 10 that any heterosexual man would notice it, surely there was no reason for your friend to point it out, particularly since you're married. You could have both noticed her, thought she looks pretty, and moved on with your day without having to share your thoughts on it.
It's almost like that was never really the point.
Some men have been so poorly socialized that they think communal or shared objectification of a woman is a good group bonding activity. You're wrong. HR was doing their jobs by trying to teach basic social norms and simple concepts like empathy. The kind of thing you're really supposed to know by 30.
that's probably true too, but this is one of the cases where doing the right thing and covering their asses are the same thing so it really doesn't matter. It just means that OP's friend fucked up on multiple levelsI mean, lets be real here. HR was covering the company's liability. Which means they believed that shit was legally actionable.
that's probably true too, but this is one of the cases where doing the right thing and covering their asses are the same thing so it really doesn't matter. It just means that OP's friend fucked up on multiple levels
It's the fucking workplace!So wait real talk, is it creepy to appreciate that some girl is pretty? Or was it that he was trying to point it out to his friend? I think the OP is doing a shit job of making this situation not look creepy but I generally wouldn't have considered it harassment if there was no intent to do anything bad, let alone her noticing him motioning. If I see some hot girl on the street and I poke my GF to look at how cute she is, is that fucked up?
So wait real talk, is it creepy to appreciate that some girl is pretty? Or was it that he was trying to point it out to his friend? I think the OP is doing a shit job of making this situation not look creepy but I generally wouldn't have considered it harassment if there was no intent to do anything bad, let alone her noticing him motioning. If I see some hot girl on the street and I poke my GF to look at how cute she is, is that fucked up?
So wait real talk, is it creepy to appreciate that some girl is pretty? Or was it that he was trying to point it out to his friend? I think the OP is doing a shit job of making this situation not look creepy but I generally wouldn't have considered it harassment if there was no intent to do anything bad, let alone her noticing him motioning. If I see some hot girl on the street and I poke my GF to look at how cute she is, is that fucked up?
Everyone appreciates beauty. You just keep that shit to yourself until an appropriate time. At the very least wait until said woman is out of the fucking room. Realistically though it's incredibly unprofessional to do at work and OPs friend definately deserved what he got.
Time to go get some skis with w/Squi"I'm all for me too"
"She's a 10"
You're like one beer away from calling this woman a B-Word and you know it.