Why? We got plenty of candidates.He treated her like he was her grandpa. Problem is he isn't her grandpa. It isnt something he should do, but let's wait a bit before discarding him over something like this.
Why? We got plenty of candidates.He treated her like he was her grandpa. Problem is he isn't her grandpa. It isnt something he should do, but let's wait a bit before discarding him over something like this.
Well let's just hope the majority of those polled get a clue.I don't think anyone here actually wants Biden to run or has him as their top choice. I might be wrong though lol
Kissing her on the neck and smelling her hair is not treating her like he was Grandpa. It's just creepy af.He treated her like he was her grandpa. Problem is he isn't her grandpa. It isnt something he should do, but let's wait a bit before discarding him over something like this.
What the fuck is this.He treated her like he was her grandpa. Problem is he isn't her grandpa. It isnt something he should do, but let's wait a bit before discarding him over something like this.
Well, it is for me. I mean, not illegal shouldn't be the bar.Because Democrats need to run everyone and pick the one who has the best chance of winning. This is nowhere near disqualifying.
Kissing her on the neck and smelling her hair is not treating her like he was Grandpa. It's just creepy af.
Why are you comparing someone's grandpa to Biden? IS Biden senile? Did you think it was also ok for that boxer to kiss that reporter without permission?Kissed her hair on the back of her head, and yes, I just watched my wife's grandpa do the same thing to her this summer. It is creepy for a stranger to do, absolutely, but nowhere near disqualifying.
Why are you comparing someone's grandpa to Biden? IS Biden senile? Did you think it was also ok for that boxer to kiss that reporter without permission?
Stop fucking dismissing these accusations. A grown man smelling hair and kissing someone he doesn't know without permission is sexual assault and it's absolutely disqualifying.I would highly suggest working with or spending time with people in their 70s. This is absolutely normal behavior in their age group.
Nowhere did I say it was right for a stranger to do this to someone they didn't know, so let's not start that garbage.
I'm pretty sure nobody is going to stop him from running, up to the voters is kind of what we're talking about here. Nobody should want to vote for this creepiness. If he's too old to know boundaries, and understand that times change, he probably shouldn't be president unless he can time travel back to "the 70s".Again, I didn't anywhere say it was acceptable behavior--just nothing that should disqualify him from running at this point. Let the voters decide.
Kissed her hair on the back of her head, and yes, I just watched my wife's grandpa do the same thing to her this summer. It is creepy for a stranger to do, absolutely, but nowhere near disqualifying.
Stop fucking dismissing these accusations. A grown man smelling hair and kissing someone he doesn't know without permission is sexual assault and it's absolutely disqualifying.
Let me refresh your memory:"It wasn't acceptable" equates to dismissing these accusations? On what planet?
Just wow. No it isn't. Smelling a random person's hair and kissing the back of their head is not "normal behavior" for anyone.I would highly suggest working with or spending time with people in their 70s or older. This is absolutely normal behavior in their age group.
yeah I think the whole being married thing makes it a whole hell of a lot different than Biden's behavior. like, night and day difference. like, the difference between unwanted sexual advances from a fucking serial creepo and a husband being loving to his wife. there's no comparison here and I'm puzzled why this post even exists pretending there is one.
Read my other posts before you jump to conclusions. It wasnt acceptable, and I have said that repeatedly.
You're dismissing it by saying it's normal for people in this age range. No it fucking isn't. It's not normal for anyone of any age. Read your posts.Again: read. I said people in their 70s and older do this on a regular basis. That is fact. Another fact: I did NOT say it was acceptable.
I mean, you're dismissing it by saying, it's just what old men do, and suggesting there is nothing here that is serious enough that he shouldn't be able to run. How is this not "dismissing"? What would be dismissing in your mind?"It wasn't acceptable" equates to dismissing these accusations? On what planet?
You're dismissing it by saying it's normal for people in this age range. No it fucking isn't. It's not normal for anyone of any age. Read your posts.
you know what you're doing by saying that kind of behavior isn't disqualifying for a presidential candidate?
you're accepting it
Just because you've seen it happen doesn't mean it's normal.It is normal for people in that age range to do this. I've led groups of students who worked in nursing homes. I've spent time there. This is absolutely something that happens on a regular basis. Yes, it is creepy. But for some reason that generation feels it is normal.
I dont like it. I feel like it is a liability for a guy like Biden to run because of this stuff.
It gives people like Biden an out. It's an (unjustified) excuse and it helps perpetuate sexual abuse.By normal he means "common" or "typical", not that this is proper etiquette in broader society.
Biden 2020: "It's like visiting a nursing home"It is normal for people in that age range to do this. I've led groups of students who worked in nursing homes. I've spent time there. This is absolutely something that happens on a regular basis. Yes, it is creepy. But for some reason that generation feels it is normal.
By normal he means "common" or "typical", not that this is morally justified etiquette in broad society.
It's more like the older you are, the more likely you will be operating from a boomer/silent mindset rather than a modern mindset, the world was very different 50 years ago, and people don't really keep up with generational trends around abstract concepts like "personal space".Apparently to some being 70 is too old to know that kissing women without permission is acceptable, but not too old to run for the damn president of the country. Trump is 70. I wonder if this excuses his behavior as well?
Just because you've seen it happen doesn't mean it's normal.
Again, you're dismissing the accusations of this woman by telling her "this is normal behavior, it happens".
That is a dismissal, full stop.
It gives people like Biden an out. It's an (unjustified) excuse and it helps perpetuate sexual abuse.
This is just another bullshit excuse that perpetuates the power imbalance between abusers and their victims.It's more like the older you are, the more likely you will be operating from a boomer/silent mindset rather than a modern mindset, the world was very different 50 years ago.
Yes, just like Biden used to have different views about race and segregation. And if he STILL had those views instead of changing, he shouldn't be running.It's more like the older you are, the more likely you will be operating from a boomer/silent mindset rather than a modern mindset, the world was very different 50 years ago, and people don't really keep up with generational trends around abstract concepts like "personal space".
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Um but he is kind of saying it's ok. I mean ok enough that it shouldn't disqualify him.Normal and right are two different things, the poster is saying that it is common not that its okay.
He's dismissing the accusation by saying "it's normal for people in this age range". No it isn't. Smelling hair and kissing on the back of the head is not normal behavior.Normal and right are two different things, the poster is saying that it is common not that its okay.
No, it's more like boomers are just generally gross people with gross normative behavior. You won't see me defending their stuff, I'm just trying to explain why it happens.This is just another bullshit excuse that perpetuates the power imbalance between abusers and their victims.
So,No, it's more like boomers are just generally gross people with gross normative behavior you won't see me defending their stuff, I'm just trying to explain why it happens.
Stuff like Pence calling his wife "mother", that kind of thing. We had thread recently about sexual harassment from older women towards younger men where to the older woman it seems "okay" and the younger men don't know if to cut the older women some slack or to put their foot down.
Just because you've seen it happen doesn't mean it's normal.
Again, you're dismissing the accusations of this woman by telling her "this is normal behavior, it happens".
That is a dismissal, full stop.
It gives people like Biden an out. It's an (unjustified) excuse and it helps perpetuate sexual abuse.
Are you going to include the part where you explain to her that this is just something 70 years olds do and that he should still be able to run for president?I am contacting her to thank her for sharing her story and flat out tell her it wasnt right and she needs to demand an apology, so let's cool it with the "you're excusing sexual abuse" stuff.
Nah.I am contacting her to thank her for sharing her story and flat out tell her it wasnt right and she needs to demand an apology, so let's cool it with the "you're excusing sexual abuse" stuff.
This is bullshit and you're dismissing her accusation with this post, contact her if you want, but I am calling this outHe treated her like he was her grandpa. Problem is he isn't her grandpa. It isnt something he should do, but let's wait a bit before discarding him over something like this.
I didn't check that far back in the chain, and no, I think Biden would get raked over the coals for it if/when he runs and it's one of the things I dislike about him and like about Bernie. He's also an old coot but he's kept up with the times better than Biden has.You think it's cool for it to not disqualify Biden because "it's normal for people his age to do"? That was the original argument.
They are part of the same generation and same culture group that runs up against #metoo. They are the generation of Bill Maher and comprise most of Bill Maher's audience. They run the video game industry and love gays and minorities and feminism, but, until recently, most game protagonists were 30-40 male Caucasians and they never thought it was weird or strange and simply thought "this is the way of the world".
Nah.
This is bullshit and you're dismissing her accusation with this post, contact her if you want, but I am calling this out