In general I'm against jail, but not sure a privileged wealthy white girl knowingly subverting covid rules to watch a jet ski competition in the caymans elicits much sympathy from me.
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18 year old U.S. Student Jailed for Quarantine Violation in the Cayman Islands, Family Pleads for Her Release
- Thread starter WrenchNinja
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COVID-19 Guidance: Inbound Travel (exploregov.ky)
for caiman island is specified
- Undergo COVID-19 testing upon arrival (day 0) in Cayman and again on day 15; and
Meaning that the test she took did not included a quite risky period of time.
She decided to gamble with other people health basically.
I don't feel sorry for this person, and you can't apply american law on another country.
They flauted the countries laws for a fricking jet ski competition.
I have no sympy for this person or her boyfriend.
What does America's need for jail reform have to do with the Cayman Islands anyway?
They flauted the countries laws for a fricking jet ski competition.
I have no sympy for this person or her boyfriend.
What does America's need for jail reform have to do with the Cayman Islands anyway?
Fuck her and the racist reporting. A Black woman is serving 5 years in US prison for erroneously voting, fuck this clown.
I think what would convince me most is knowing whether or not jail time will have an affect on her & others beyond punishment.
But then, I still haven't concluded whether or not punishment for the sake of punishment is okay.
Also, I don't disagree with most of what you're saying; I'm not so worried about her in particular. Or rather, I don't feel bad for her at the moment.
I was wondering why this was news....then i saw the students picture and was like...of of course.
Four months is a lot, especially for an eighteen year old. 18 year olds are pretty dumb.
I'm generally in with the "when in Rome," so she's learning a lesson about obeying the laws of other countries and not thinking she's above them. Hope it sticks and she's held accountable for her actions.
I'm generally in with the "when in Rome," so she's learning a lesson about obeying the laws of other countries and not thinking she's above them. Hope it sticks and she's held accountable for her actions.
Sounds like a permanent quarantine with the girlfriend is in the cards!
I guess I'd have to ask; what would affect her in this case? What would be a better action to take towards her for what she did?
Makes my blood boil
Been posting about her for years. Every time I have a moment of peace and satisfaction playing a fun game or listening to nice music, I feel a sharp pain in my stomach reminding me that as the world continues to turn, this poor woman is still rotting away in a Texas jail cell because a conga line of racist lawyers and judges turned a blind eye to injustice.
So yeah, maybe four months is harsh or whatever for this spoiled little brat, but I have zero sympathy for her when there are people in jail for much longer who have no business being there in the first place.
That's exactly my question. It's not that I'm in favor of inaction - I'm just wondering if this does what it's intended to do. If it does, okay, fine.
If it doesn't, maybe community service was the better punishment.
4 months is pretty heavy. I'd say a large fine and immediate deportation would send a strong enough message to tourists. You lose money and your vacation is cut short.
Could even blacklist them too.
Could even blacklist them too.
With the amount of people I've seen give no fucks about covid precautions, qurantine or wearing masks, I have a hard time feeling sorry for her even if I think four months is too long or that jailtime may not be the answer for smaller offenders (people who organize big events and super spreaders? Hell yes, throw them in there) rather than maybe fines. There has to be some kind of real consequences though.
Huge amounts of people just want to casually put others at risk becuase they're selfish. Its a real danger that people need to take seriously.
It doesn't matter if you don't care if you get it, it affects more than just you.
Huge amounts of people just want to casually put others at risk becuase they're selfish. Its a real danger that people need to take seriously.
It doesn't matter if you don't care if you get it, it affects more than just you.
My parents live in Anguilla (island close to St. Martin) and some asshole couple from Tampa Bay were caught breaking quarantine recently. Although they avoided jail time, they had to pay $5000, were publicly shamed in an announcement from the Ministry of Health or whatever it's called and got the boot.
These dipshits are too stupid to understand how devastating a serious outbreak would be on any of these islands. Even the more developed ones don't have the infrastructure to deal with this.
As for this story: wtf are these parents doing letting her go alone to see her 24 year old bf during a pandemic? I know she's not like a minor but she's not far off. Parents should be blame themselves.
These dipshits are too stupid to understand how devastating a serious outbreak would be on any of these islands. Even the more developed ones don't have the infrastructure to deal with this.
As for this story: wtf are these parents doing letting her go alone to see her 24 year old bf during a pandemic? I know she's not like a minor but she's not far off. Parents should be blame themselves.
Putting people in prison for Covid violations is incredibly stupid, especially in cases of quarantine violations because quarantines are mandated DUE TO Covid spread risk and prisons are a hotbed of Covid spread, you're just making an already bad situation worse.
Remembering this thread next time someone claims this forum is progressive, the incredibly regressive and destructive attitudes towards criminal justice policy here never cease to disgust me.
Remembering this thread next time someone claims this forum is progressive, the incredibly regressive and destructive attitudes towards criminal justice policy here never cease to disgust me.
B but she's white. Have you no heart sir? Does ice water flow through your veins? For shame good sir, for shame.
Prisons have quarantine areas for idiots like her, she'll be okay.
Fuck that. A fine mommy and daddy will swiftly handle and she'll learn nothing. Stop going on foreign soil and not respecting their health laws during a pandemic. She can literally get people killed being a selfish person.
rofl, US jails are bad, but I doubt Cayman Islands are better.
The 14-day quarantine is BECAUSE you can test negative days into the infection.
I agree. Somehow its always a young blonde woman. But why do Americans feel so bad for blonde women?
A fucking black woman will be murdered in her own house and no one bats an eye.
Stuff like this should be treated like drunk driving would imo, so no sympathy at all if she's getting a jail sentence. You are recklessly putting everyone's life around you in danger.
Shit y'all, let one white girl down to face the consequences of her actions in a prison system outside the US for not obeying containment laws during a global pandemic which she literally could have put lives at risk.....and suddenly your a cess pool.
Well, here's a bit more context to this story.
Both Mack and Ramjeet are people who know people. Ramjeet's parents both sit on the Cayman Islands Watercraft Association. Mack's father is a professional Jetski racer. They all knew about the competition, and Ramjeet knew about the restrictions that were in place for COVID safety that Mack circumvented.
The original punishment WAS going to be just a fine and community service, with Ramjeet getting stripped of his win, prize money, and a suspension. He would have to make a public apology (which he did), and Mack was going to be booted back to the States. However, the prosecution thought this was too lenient. Again, he knew she was breaking quarantine to see him, and she deliberately setup the removal of her monitoring bracelet.
Prosecution appealed, and the judge agreed. He ramped it up to 4 months in prison, effective Dec. 15th.
There was enabling all around. Honestly? I don't see them doing the full time. There's too much money and influence involved.
I don't see what the big deal is. A girl knowingly broke COVID precautions and is being punished for it. Too bad so sad. Nothing should come of this except maybe an episode of Locked Up Abroad.
Ramjeet's not a white girl and the race of a person is irrelevant to whether it is a good idea to jail people for Covid violations when Covid spread in jails and prisons is so rampant. The solution to violating Covid protocols should not be placing people in worse Covid conditions. It's really not hard to understand.
I think you're ignoring a lot of nuance and context here. We have no idea how she is being jailed and what the conditions are like. You act as if they just threw her into a cell with a bunch of people without knowing if she had covid or not. I would rather assume they took precautions than not and at this point, they'd know if she had covid since this happened in November.
I also think you're missing the nuance of why people are upset. I'm not saying basically dancing happily that a girl was put in jail is a pristine, perfect way to act but people are upset that once again, the media is fishing for sympathy points for someone blatantly breaking the law (in a way that could have seriously harmed an entire population) because she's a pretty, young white person. People are upset and not giving the perfect, moral responses because people like her have led to many getting sick and dying because of their selfishness and privilege. Idk about you but I take more issue with what she did and how the media once again spins this sort of thing than some posts here saying "good" or whatever.
It feels like you didn't even read the story or think about it for more than a minute because you just wanted to make a blanket statement about the people on this forum due to some prior thing that bothered you.
This.
4 months is a lot. I would've settled fir 1 and a lifetime ban
At the same time her actions could've endangered the entire region and infected/killed a bunch of people so I'm not exactly chomping at the bit to defend her.
At the same time her actions could've endangered the entire region and infected/killed a bunch of people so I'm not exactly chomping at the bit to defend her.
It is relevent when she is the face of the article and not him and in addition to breaking a country's law deliberately , the position of not putting her in jail rings hollow when she could have put people's lives at risk via her willful negligence.
That to me is not hard to understand and given the risks at play here I see no reason to put my neck on the line for her so long as the prison also follows guidelines.
Let me also add that of the hundreds of thousands of people who are in prison who I would gladly campaign to get released, a bunch of spoiled kids who deliberately ignored the law cause they thought they would get away with it are so far below my list they essentially don't exist as far as I'm concerned.
Quarantine is here for a reason.
Plenty of people test positive after the first negative test.