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Kat Von D Says She Won't Vaccinate Her Child
- Thread starter Wazzy
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In lieu of me saying something that will get me another warning, here's a pic I made for a mod months ago in another topic where I encouraged anti-vaxxers with a voice to off themselves:
Fuck off, Kat.
Can I use this in the future?
Depending on where she lives it might be. In some states you can't send your kid to public school if they aren't vaccinated unless there's a medical exception. My private school I went to in elementary school required me be up to date on my vaccinations.
I cant believe the first dozen or so posts. Do people just not understand how to cook.
If anything raising a kid vegan makes way more sense, let children grow into adults so they can make a choice about what they eat and if they wabt to contribute to the harm that comes to animals. Kids can't understand that at a young age and raising meat eaters dissociates people from what their food really is.
Lots of uninformed people who must not know a bit about cooking or nutrition.
All of that being said vaccinations should be the law, these people are as stupid and dangerous as the climate change deniers.
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B12 is in many fortified foods. No problem.
And a vegan diet can supply more than enough protein.
You don't know what you're talking about.
This is like when people bring up protein with vegetarian diets. People think vegetarians just eat fuckin lettuce. Everyone is so warped when it comes to their perception of choice in food.
A grocery store is like 90% vegetarian yall. Learn more about food.
Daniel Bryan's kid seems to be okay having anti-vax parents, but I sure as shit don't recommend it.
You need to make a conscious effort to get food that has artificially added vitamin B12 though, and enough of it, which is very common not to work out even for vegetarians:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23356638
http://www.b12-vitamin.com/vegan-vegetarian/
As stated here, but in numerous other places as well, Vitamin B12 (in a digestable form) is not part of any natural vegan food, so raising your child vegan is deliberately raising the child on a deficient nutritional paradigm. It is obviously difficult to prevent Vitamin B12 deficiency as a vegan, it fails especially regularly for children and since there are no medical indications for a vegan diet, it is irresponsible to force it on your child, especially if it is very young and you can curb neural development particularly badly in a development phase.
Wow I didn't know this about him.
Anyway yeah I don't know why people get so militant about what they eat; it's usually embarrassing. You can easily get the nutrients you need from a vegan diet or from a normal one.
It occurs to me that knowing how to research is just as much a skill as anything. So many people don't know what's a valid source, and you end up with situations like this.
No one said you should avoid vegetables in your nutrition. Vegetables can be and are a valuable form of food. Restricting yourself to just vegetables for your food is the choice that is not supported by the human body and requires careful supplementation. I mean, luckily we are in a situation that allows such supplementation in principle, but deliberately force malnutrition on a child that requires supplementation if you do not want to have severe health consequences is irresponsible.
Having never heard of her before, I'm trying to gather who she is through her Gram and YouTube.
Is she a beautician? Part time singer? Tattoo artist? At first I thought she was a full time singer because of the tour date posts, but now I'm not sure.
Halp.
Is she a beautician? Part time singer? Tattoo artist? At first I thought she was a full time singer because of the tour date posts, but now I'm not sure.
Halp.
It's not in any vegan foods naturally but it's in MANY fortified foods and you can just take a supllliment for it.
And you get everything else naturally.
It's nowhere near as difficult as you're making it out to be. At all.
It does not require careful supplementation at all aside from b12 which is found in many fortified foods like cereals and alternative mills and many more.
Like ANY diet you just need to make sure it's balanced.
You are not fighting malnutrition being vegan, lol.
You really have no idea what you're talking about.
When her child dies of an avoidable condition, I'm sure she'll still hold the same views. Fucking hell, that poor kid is going to have a rough upbringing with such a misinformed fool as a mother.
Pretty funny that people are demonising veganism whilst calling someone out for demonising vaccinations. If all kids were raised vegan and vaccinated they'd likely be healthier than if not and the world would be a better place.
It's required but they don't kick your kid out of school for not having it. At least I've never heard of that happening in my school.
No, the world would not be a better place if all kids were raised vegan. But yeah, it would be a better place if all kids were vaccinated.
Then why is this found:
From the full study:
It is obviously difficult enough for the majority of parents to fail to compensate for it even in a vegetarian diet where a fully natural nutrition would be possible that contains B12, with devastating numbers for vegan children (85.4%....).
Which is a pretty big aside and it goes much beyond making sure your diet is balanced, because you deliberately make the diet not balanced and need to take supplementation to counterbalance this.
Please elaborate.
And they would be even better off if they were given a balanced diet and they were vaccinated on top of that.
Vaccination isn't an ethical or peer pressure issue. That's a safety issue. You don't see a sign that tells you to stay on the path because of poison ivy and run off the path because everyone else is on the path.
Also why are so many of you more concerned with the vegan part of this?
Also why are so many of you more concerned with the vegan part of this?
If your unhappy with your life in the public eye. Stop putting your life in the public eye.
I imagine the careful planning of a vegan diet would help with obesity. Then on a manufacturing level I believe vegan produce is much less harsh on the environment than rearing livestock? Plus ethically there's the whole mass slaughter/torture of animals thing.
This is my point. It's not just vegitables.
Go into a supermarket. Remove the meat and dairy. There is still so much food left.
You are saying this thing you are sure of, but in fact there are many links here to show you can easily have a completely healthy and nutritious diet without animal products.
A vegan diet IS a balanced diet.
At the end of the study summary it states "Vegetarians should thus take preventive measures to ensure adequate intake of this vitamin, including regular consumption of supplements containing B12."
I don't know a single vegan who doesn't do this.
Now do a study on regular people eating regular diets and see how many deficiencies they have...
Yes they do.
I meant vegetable in the sense of plant, which is of course a bit problematic when it comes to food. But no, outside of artificial supplementation it is not possible to serve all needs of the body with a stricly vegan diet and the supplementation option is one that appears to be to difficult to properly execute for up to 86% of parents of children forced to eat vegan.
Which is a contradiction in itself. You could live off McDonalds hamburgers and supplementations exclusively, but it would hardly count as a balanced diet. The moment your diet is insufficient without artificial supplements, it certainly is not balanced anymore.
Then you must have a pretty lucky sample, considering the prevalance.
Eating not exclusively vegan is not a guarantee to have a balanced diet, but it is a huge step towards it.
Katherine von Drachenberg, known as Kat Von D[1][2] (born March 8, 1982),[3] is an American tattoo artist, model, musician, entrepreneur, and television personality. She is best known for her work as a tattoo artist on the TLC reality television show LA Ink,
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You didn't know who she was? She's got a monstrously huge makeup line.
I was just browsing through her instagram and I feel like I just got out of a tim burton movie.
I mean. I had to look it up too.
based on the description, its pretty easy to see how one wouldn't be aware of her.
I remember when the TLC show was on, had no idea she was still relevant to anyone. I don't follow make up artists.
I was going to reply "This is probably the least worst child rearing decision a TLC 'celebrity' has made in the last 10 years," but thought it might come off as supporting anti-Vaxxers, instead of mocking the celebrity of The Learning Channel reality TV show personalities.
Everyone that gets vaccinated gets sick and dies at some point.
Cant believe people here are defending a practice that is associated with a 100% mortality rate.
Cant believe people here are defending a practice that is associated with a 100% mortality rate.
I mean, sure, if you're being pedantic a Vegan diet can never be truly balanced because of the need to supplement b12.
But then as the average person probably doesn't bother checking the'ye getting enough of every essential vitamin and mineral, "balanced diet" is probably a nebulous term most of the time.
The point is once you take care of the obvious one, A vegan diet can easily be balanced. Takes as much effort as any diet to achieve that.
One study, that says at the end "you should make sure to take supplements for B!2... which every single vegan I know does...
It's not, at all. It's a much likelier chance they won't suffer B12 deficiency, but that's it.
As long as they get B12 and the user makes sure the diet is balanced, the kid will grow up just fine.