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modoversus

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Oct 25, 2017
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I always wondered why peopel called dude Tony Stark as a compliment. Tony Stark is a narcissistic asshole, that regularly sacrifices his friends to satify his ego. And once disemboweled a 15 year old kid for calling him out on his bullshit

Huh, I tought detractors called him that to avoid using his name to attract harassment.
 
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The title is very misleading. This isn't musks army, nor did he tell people to do this. Saying 'musks mob' is just deceiving.
 

Dan

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He can condemn the harassment. He can avoid using twitter handles to not give his followers a new target.

As the journalist said in her article, her twitter thread was in obscurity. Then Musk amplified it and gave his followers a specific target for harassment.

I'm a big SpaceX fan, and I do find it interesting what Solar City (Tesla Power) and Tesla are doing - but it's hard to argue against the above.

Musk seems incredibly aggressive a lot of times on Twitter.. and often in unnecessary situations.
 

CloudWolf

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Oct 26, 2017
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Here is him telling another nanoscientist that her field of study is bullshit:

nano-musk-tweet.jpg


Dr Dickinson is a lecturer at my university and a science educator, she does a lot of great work and it's really upsetting to see Musk being such an asshole.

She wrote an article about it:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/28...ike-elon-musk-but-nano-is-not-bullshit-sorry/
Does Elon Musk seriously use Uncyclopedia as source? Oh boy...
 

Chikor

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Oct 26, 2017
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That's not true. Elon Musk is a physicist by education and even got into the Stanford PhD program (before dropping out to chase the dot com bubble) so he's not just a business guy. He's well known for studying any topic that interests him to the point of literal expertise and is notorious for micromanaging his talented engineering teams directly where he frequently contests their decisions based on scientific merit. And he usually wins those arguments because those engineers, who are experts in their field, concede he's correct. It's not the Dunning-Kruger effect, dude genuinely knows his shit. Of course he can't be an expert on everything (and his dismissal of nano science is clearly evidence of that) and he obviously didn't do the real nitty gritty himself, but to disregard how his own scientific and engineering ability has been a big part of what his companies have achieved (for better or worse) is disingenuous.

The reason the talented scientists and engineers beneath him are able to achieve the seemingly impossible goals he sets them is because he himself has the scientific background to know that the goals he sets are actually possible to achieve and he can prove it.

Not trying to be a fanboy or defending Elon's actions in the OP or terrible lack of PR filter, but credit where credit's due.
Musk seems like a smart guy, but he is not a scientist, nor was he ever one. And while he did code at one point, he's almost certainly haven't done it in any sort of meaningful way in like 20 years, and in any case, I think it's hard to argue that his success was due to his coding skills.
 

Chekhonte

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Every time I read something like this I get confused as to why people want to protect the internet.
 

Goldtones

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He can condemn the harassment. He can avoid using twitter handles to not give his followers a new target.

As the journalist said in her article, her twitter thread was in obscurity. Then Musk amplified it and gave his followers a specific target for harassment.

That's nonsense. She's a journalist, it is in her job description to have her writings become as public as possible.
If she wants to attack people's intelligence online she should be prepared to have her's attacked also.

If she is this thin skinned she should just stay off twitter because it is majority trolls
 

modoversus

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That's nonsense. She's a journalist, it is in her job description to have her writings become as public as possible.
If she wants to attack people's intelligence online she should be prepared to have her's attacked also.

If she is this thin skinned she should just stay off twitter because it is majority trolls

"Thin skinned". You need to read the article.

The harrasment was not about an article, but about Elon Musk targeting a thread she made from her personal account on social media.

And harrasement is not a valid response to anything at all.

Do you disagree that Elon Musk should condemn virulent, sustained harrasment in his name?
 

Deleted member 8561

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Turns out all of Tesla's R&D are based on erroneous sources from Encyclopedia Dramatica and Uncyclopedia
 

Goldtones

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"Thin skinned". You need to read the article.

The harrasment was not about an article, but about Elon Musk targeting a thread she made from her personal account on social media.

And harrasement is not a valid response to anything at all.

Do you disagree that Elon Musk should condemn virulent, sustained harrasment in his name?

Ya she literally tagged him in a post and called him ignorant. What does she expect, that he is not allowed to reply to her?

She had 42,000 tweets before this but deleted them all because I guarantee she spends all day harassing people hoping to get one to respond so she can write an article about how she is a victim of sexism.
 

NameUser

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Oct 25, 2017
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Some of the comments here are proving her point. Yes, if you have a large following you should think before you tweet criticism at a normal person. Because your passionate followers will gang up on that person. So, yes, he should take some responsibility.
 

Goldtones

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Some of the comments here are proving her point. Yes, if you have a large following you should think before you tweet criticism at a normal person. Because your passionate followers will gang up on that person. So, yes, he should take some responsibility.

She is a journalist who had 14,000 followers and works on major publications. How is she just a normal person?
 

julia crawford

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How did I misuse the term?

Milkshake Duck is for when a community thinks very well of someone they hardly know, but whose recent moment of fame invites people to find out that they are actually not very nice people. Milkshake Ducks don't come to reveal that they are bad people after being famous for a long time, but are revealed to be bad people because of the sudden search for further information about them after a short moment of perceived good will.
 

Brakke

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Ya she literally tagged him in a post and called him ignorant. What does she expect, that he is not allowed to reply to her?

She had 42,000 tweets before this but deleted them all because I guarantee she spends all day harassing people hoping to get one to respond so she can write an article about how she is a victim of sexism.

So now we're just making things up?
 

NameUser

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She is a journalist who had 14,000 followers and works on major publications. How is she just a normal person?
More than half of your 14 posts are about Elon. So you appear to be one of those Bros. So I don't think I can have a real conversation with you.

14k isn't a lot of followers, hell I have almost 10k and I'm pretty normal.
 

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Anyone else find it hilarious that Musk is beefing with people working on nanotech, when Musk's main areas of focus are electirc cars, high-speed rail, and commercial space flight?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
 
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Anyone else find it hilarious that Musk is beefing with people working on nanotech, when Musk's main areas of focus are electirc cars, high-speed rail, and commercial space flight?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

It's absurd because applications of nanotechnlogy are already highly relevant for aeronautical and automotive products. A brilliant (hobby)-engineer should know that.
 

modoversus

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Ya she literally tagged him in a post and called him ignorant. What does she expect, that he is not allowed to reply to her?

She had 42,000 tweets before this but deleted them all because I guarantee she spends all day harassing people hoping to get one to respond so she can write an article about how she is a victim of sexism.

Ah! The "profesional victim" excuse.

Anyway, you did not respond, so I'm going to ask again: do you disagree with the notion that Elon Musk should condemn harrasment done in his name?
 

Seductivpancakes

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It's fair. He's not that dumb. Whenever a famous person tweets a snide remark at someone, they're signaling for their followers to the same thing.
Facts. He's not dumb guy. He knows how social media works, the good and the bad, and he should tell his followers to lay off with the harassment. He's suppose to be some inspiring, innovative celeb, but he can't be bothered to ask his followers and fans to be decent people.
 

steejee

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Here is him telling another nanoscientist that her field of study is bullshit:

nano-musk-tweet.jpg


Dr Dickinson is a lecturer at my university and a science educator, she does a lot of great work and it's really upsetting to see Musk being such an asshole.

She wrote an article about it:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/28...ike-elon-musk-but-nano-is-not-bullshit-sorry/

Dafuq? Musk appears to have fallen deep into the "I'm successful at one thing (I guess twoish in his case) therefore I'm brilliant at everything and can never be wrong" hole.
 

Orb

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Even if the guy is not specifically siccing his followers on people, he must understand what he's doing at this point. And you really have to ask yourself why so many racist, sexist assholes seem attracted to following and defending him...
 

Goldtones

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User Banned (3 Days): Thread derailment, re-litigating old threads to start drama, conspiracy theories, victim blaming.
hmm it's like there's a part of the post that I quoted that you didn't respond to here hmm

For some of the deleted tweets I've seem she has been personally attacking Musk for months. If she has a history of harassment it is a good guess that a good chunk of her 42K tweets also involved harassment otherwise why delete them all?
 

NameUser

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For some of the deleted tweets I've seem she has been personally attacking Musk for months. If she has a history of harassment it is a good guess that a good chunk of her 42K tweets also involved harassment otherwise why delete them all?
How'd you see deleted tweets. And why don't you share them with us. Maybe we can help you clear his name.
 

Goldtones

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I'll defend them as soon as you explain your obsession. Why are most of your posts about him? We have thousands of great threads here, and since October you've mainly focused on defending him. Very interesting.

I've only ever posted on here on like 4 occasions. I have a big interest in technology, renewable energy and climate change. I like lurking this website because it is generally good but people just loss their minds whenever Elon Musk is brought up.
 

pj-

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Oct 25, 2017
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For some of the deleted tweets I've seem she has been personally attacking Musk for months. If she has a history of harassment it is a good guess that a good chunk of her 42K tweets also involved harassment otherwise why delete them all?

Maybe she deleted them because many would probably be personal things (e.g. stuff about her looks, friends, relationships) that a harassment mob could use as ammunition?

I don't think your guess is good at all
 

just_myles

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Nano tech is a relevant field of study. It's revolutionized literally everything(think tiny transistors). We need to take Musk to task on things like this. I'm also a staunch defender of the man as well but, I will call bullshit when I see it. That is what this is.

I also wonder what he thinks of quantum. That bullshit too?
 

NameUser

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No they aren't that's not how intent works. Also if you are a nobody don't @ a famous person to get noticed.
It's how Twitter works. And just look at his feed. He's retweeting stuff calling her out, which will lead to more hate. If you don't think he's aware of what he's doing then I don't know what to say. It's pretty obvious.
 

Ryno23

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Dec 13, 2017
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All appear to be out of context. Is she was being harassed already, it's easy to see why sheds tweet that stuff.
Criticism is not hate. Harrasment is not a proportional response to criticsm.

The context was the falcon heavy was a freaking test flight and she directly calls him gross and says he sent his dick into space in another conversation . Not someone that should be publishing an article on him as clearly she has some sort or personal misgivings towards him

In no way shape or form should she be harrased however that is completely unacceptable and inappropriate....maybe he needs to make a statement condemning harassment I don't know. He has 21 million followers, if even 1% of them are bad apples well
 

modoversus

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The context was the falcon heavy was a freaking test flight and she directly calls him gross and says he sent his dick into space in another conversation . Not someone that should be publishing an article on him as clearly she has some sort or personal misgivings towards him

In no way shape or form should she be harrased however that is completely unacceptable and inappropriate....maybe he needs to make a statement condemning harassment I don't know. He has 21 million followers, if even 1% of them are bad apples well

Yeah, but what was Musk responding to in the first tweet? That's the context. And in the second, her tweets with her opinion did not @ him. Journalists are allowed to have opinions, it is on the editor to make sure that what is published fits the publication standards.
 
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Not someone that should be publishing an article on him as clearly she has some sort or personal misgivings towards him

All else aside, preventing journalists from reporting on topics if they have a preexisting dislike for the subject is something that sounds better in theory than it would work in practice.Editors and publications are responsible for making sure the content they post isn't tainted by bias, and journalists should keep their own bias in mind when writing on a subject, but a dislike for someone is not enough to disqualify a journalist from writing negatively about them. Trump is sort of the perfect example of this--he is waging war with journalists and so most will have personal misgivings. That doesn't and shouldn't disqualify them from writing about him.
 

Ryno23

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Yeah, but what was Musk responding to in the first tweet? That's the context. And in the second, her twits with her opinion did not @ him. Journalists are allowed to have opinions, it is on the editor to make sure that what is published fits the publication standards.
If i remember correctly it was replying tona tweet about a political watchdog website he said did good work and tried to donate, politifact?


Would you agree her directly telling him he's the worst, and he's gross....is in fact not criticism but the very harassment she just wrote about. She wasn't critiquing SpaceX or Tesla which is fair game, those are direct personal attacks