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MrBS

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,236
I've know multiple people now that had a similar issue and in every case the solution was to sell their house and get a smaller place where the children weren't too keen in moving into. That's one way I guess.
 

Weiss

User requested ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
64,265
Doing what in school? Doctor? Lawyer? PhD?

Nothing so extravagant. I went to school until I turned 24 and I'm going back either this September or in January because I can't find a job in my field.

It's just a bummer when you set expectations for yourself, that I'd have a good job and my own place by this point in my life, and fail to meet them.
 

chandoog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
20,074
I'm so terrified of ending up like this. I'm going to be in school until I'm at least 29, most likely 30. I never wanted things to end up like this.

As long as you talk to your folks and help around the house as much as you can, you'll be as far away from this person as possible.
 

-PXG-

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,186
NJ
The dude obviously has serious motivation issues and is seriously depressed. Parents clearly enabled this shit for years. Such a disheartening and disappointing turn of events. Suing your own adult child, so he get can get the fuck outta your house because he doesn't have the gumption, discipline or will power to be independent.
 

Solid SOAP

One Winged Slayer
Member
Nov 27, 2017
8,264
Rotondo's gotta be in this thread somewhere, lol

This story is making me pretty damn happy about my ability to bounce back from unemployment so quick. I lost my job about a month ago, but was offered one within a week of losing that job. I start in less than a month 8)
 

Hassel

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,363
I wish rebound kids could see things from their parents point of view.
When you stay you rob your parents of their golden years together without you.


Get out of the way and let them live their lives. They sacrificed so much to raise you do not try and string out their sacrifice, because an additional adult not pulling their weight(no matter how much they love you) at home is a sacrifice.


If you love your parents, let them live again.
 

demosthenes

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,610
Nothing so extravagant. I went to school until I turned 24 and I'm going back either this September or in January because I can't find a job in my field.

It's just a bummer when you set expectations for yourself, that I'd have a good job and my own place by this point in my life, and fail to meet them.

Yea but you don't sound like op....at all. You have awareness and you're trying. Some setbacks bumps along the way are always normal.
 

Parch

Member
Nov 6, 2017
7,980
I've know multiple people now that had a similar issue and in every case the solution was to sell their house and get a smaller place where the children weren't too keen in moving into. That's one way I guess.
Downsizing is very common now. Most often it's required for retirement.

Knew a couple who's kid was mad when they took a vacation after retirement. He figured they were spending his inheritance. He threw an absolute hissy fit when they sold their house and rented. He fully expected to inherit the house, but they needed to sell to fund their retirement.
The entitlement of some kids is unbelievable.
 

Merv

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,465
I feel like your post only makes an argument for why we should blame the parents.

For not kicking him out earlier? For not forcing a work ethic? Believe it or not some people grow up to be pieces of shit, despite their up bringing.

If he was 15 years old, 20 years old, then fine blame the parents. He's 30 years old. He should know that leaching off his parents is a pos thing to do by now. In fact I would say he does know, but he's a pos.

If you want to look at this objectively. How does it come to be that you have three kids from the same family and one is super successful, one is at least comfortably supporting themselves and then you have one dead beat? It happens all the time. Do you think parents vary their parenting tactics so wildly that this happens? There is a lot more that forms a person's personality than parents. Teachers, friends, extended family, social media, traditional media...

I will agree that they fucked up letting it get to this point. If your kid is a dead beat post college age or just has no inclination to better themselves, they got to go. Join the military if you have to.
 

dennett316

Member
Nov 2, 2017
2,982
Blackpool, UK
Oh man, those pictures...the guy instantly makes my Top 10 list of most punchable people. He just looks like the personification of the word "smug".

Nothing wrong at all with living with parents/family so long as you contribute. That's the key thing here. He not only didn't do that, he refused to. God damn, what an absolute arsehole! Imagine putting your parents through this humiliation...never mind the humiliation he caused himself.
 

Riskbreaker

Member
Nov 1, 2017
1,686
A picture can say a thousand words.

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This guy looks exactly how I imagined.
Good luck selling that katana collection, buddy!
 

Faria

Member
Jan 26, 2018
360
And yet being thirty, living at home, is a common thing in Hong Kong. I couldn't imagine doing that here, or anywhere, really.

Of course, in this case, he must have been spoilt rotten.
 

lauregami

Member
Apr 25, 2018
120
Shit like this happens all the time. Most court proceedings are affluent white families trying to use the letter of the law as personal punishment against their relatives. People airing out their fuckin' dirty laundry doesn't deserve to be evening news.
 

danm999

Member
Oct 29, 2017
17,142
Sydney
It's fine to live with your folks at that age but contributing nothing, financially or otherwise, getting an allowance from then, not working, total leech.
 

lenovox1

Member
Oct 26, 2017
8,995
Shit like this happens all the time. Most court proceedings are affluent white families trying to use the letter of the law as personal punishment against their relatives. People airing out their fuckin' dirty laundry doesn't deserve to be evening news.

In New York State, you can't just kick a family member out. He had a legal right to stay there until he didn't. The child seemed to be the one to bring the law into the proceedings, not the parents.

If it was up to the parents, they would be paying for his katana collection to be sitting in his studio apartment or some storage facility somewhere going off the earlier eviction notices.

You can't force the dude to go to therapy unless he is an imminent health risk. You can't force the dude to get a job. You can't force the dude to go to school. You can't force the dude to get his own place. What else are they supposed to do?
 

Rika

Member
Oct 30, 2017
1,547
USA
I live at home still, just gotta help pay some of the bills and do stuff in exchange. i buy my own food, drink, etc though.
 

lauregami

Member
Apr 25, 2018
120
In New York State, you can't just kick a family member out. He had a legal right to stay there until he didn't. The child seemed to be the one to bring the law into the proceedings, not the parents.

If it was up to the parents, they would be paying for his katana collection to be sitting in his studio apartment or some storage facility somewhere going off the earlier eviction notices.

You can't force the dude to go to therapy unless he is an imminent health risk. You can't force the dude to get a job. You can't force the dude to go to school. You can't force the dude to get his own place. What else are they supposed to do?

Sure, they're in their right to do it, and the situation may have developed to a point where it's the most logical thing. Doesn't mean I have to have sympathy for the family who clearly does not know how to communicate with each other like adults to let this situation get to this point, nor does it mean that I have to think it deserves to be evening news.
 

Mammoth Jones

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,338
New York
As long as you talk to your folks and help around the house as much as you can, you'll be as far away from this person as possible.

This. Most parents will help their kid if they see they're trying. See they're really putting in the effort. But no one not even a parent wants to subsidize another grown persons lack of ambition full time. If dude is sitting on his ass he's too comfortable. Fuck that. Bum needs to get a job.
 

MaxDOL

Member
Oct 31, 2017
194
American parents sure are cold blood people.

I am glad i was born in Asia.

Our current house was originally owned by my grandparents then later passed down to my parents and it will later pass down to me and my siblings.
 

BAN PUNCHER

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
4,945
Maybe if you didn't buy up all the housing as 'investments' your children could afford to move out of your house and into their own, Boomers.
 
Can't say I personally understand the stay at home when you're an adult mentality, but this guy takes all the cakes. What an entitled man child. Shameful.

American parents sure are cold blood people.

I am glad i was born in Asia.

Our current house was originally owned by my grandparents then later passed down to my parents and it will later pass down to me and my siblings.

What part of this situation is cold blooded? The guy appreciates nothing, contributes nothing, doesn't do anything.
 

Ada

Member
Nov 28, 2017
3,737
I just found out that this dead beat has a kid too. He expects his parents to carry him for life but doesn't want to support his own kid at all.
 

lenovox1

Member
Oct 26, 2017
8,995
I just found out that this dead beat has a kid too. He expects his parents to carry him for life but doesn't want to support his own kid at all.

Here is Heavy.com quoting the Daily Mail:

"Michael said that his issues with his parents, Mark and Christina, are tied to his custody battle over his son," Daily Mail reported. "Michael says he lost custody of his son, whose age he wouldn't disclose, back in September. The boy now lives with his mother full time, who Michael says he was never married to, or in a relationship with."


Daily Mail said he explained "his job at the moment was getting his son back." He told the British news site that he lived in his own apartment more than eight years ago but moved in with his parents when he lost a job. Daily Mail reported that Rotondo dropped out of community college and switched from engineering because he "couldn't hack the math."

https://heavy.com/news/2018/05/michael-rotondo/

From his perspective, their issue is that he lost custody of his child.

Yeah... If he is man enough to have a baby, he is man enough to leave his motherf-ing room and talk to his mother-fing parents.

I don't know what to say. This guy is truly the worst.
 

andrespi

Member
Oct 27, 2017
88
Obviously that guy in the article seems like leeching off his parents and is an extreme case and those parents have the right to get angry and do something, but in most cases here in southern europe (italy in my case), it's perfectly normal for people to live with their parents even in their 30s. Here where I live 80% of my friends live with their parents, until they move to study in another city or to marry/get engaged or if found a stable job elsewhere. I mean my relatives, specifically aunts and uncles (not my parents) still live all toghether (passing the house down on the next generations), brother (married with children) and sisters living together taking care of their old parents or of each other. My aunt still lives with her mother and she is 50-60.

I mean I'm 31 and moving out just now; I lived outside my parent's home only during my degree which was abroad for 3-4 years, then came back to live with my parents (and didn't like it), lived with them for 4-5 years until found a stable job situation and now I'm glad I'm moving out.

Here unless you move to marry, or get a really stable working situation (and I mean really well paid and really stable) you usually don't move out. Of my friends that still live in their hometown (and haven't moved abroad or in another province) about 80% of them live with their parents. To be honest I find it a bit crazy for parents to kick their children out when they hit 18. I mean these same parents will soon need be taken care when they are old, both financially and for personal care (when they won't be able to do many things alone) and it will be a nearly part-time job to take care of them (unless you plan to abandon them and let them die alone). Otherwise what right would the parents have to steal their children's golden years to ask them to take care of them when they are old (in 20-25 years).

I see many people here saying that sons and daughters shouldn't steal their parents' years by living with them when they are over 18-19, yet then aren't the parents expected to be taken care full time in 20-30 years when they won't be able to do many things by themselves? So if sons are kicked out as soon as they are adults, then what right do the parents have to expect to be taken care of when they will be 65 years old?

Here in my country all the people that moved away as soon as they were 19, without any stable job, haven't managed to save anything (because many salaries usually are barely just enough just to pay rent and bills even when 30 years old); instead me by moving out later I managed to save some decent amount for my retirement. Sure I wish I moved out earlier and I'm happy I'm finally getting my own home but it's not always feasible to move out as soon as you are 18-19.
 
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lordlad

Banned for trolling with an alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,940
Singapore
If you wanna stsy with your parents even when u r at your 30s, at least pay some of the bills and do some of the chores.

I lived with my parents till 35 last year (although mine's different than US since rental in Singapore is killer and theres no surburban to 'escape' to here) but even then, i paid for all the phone, internet bills plus gave my parents money as 'allowance/rental'.

Thank god ive got my own property now.
 

Rei no Otaku

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
3,352
Cranston RI
Even at 30 years old, who would make their own son pay rent?
It's strange to me too, but then I know my situation was unique. My parents were more than happy letting me stay with them as long as I wanted. Granted, I never wasn't working or wasn't in school while I lived there. I even brought up possibly giving my parents money one time and my father got angry (and my father never gets angry) accusing me of thinking he was some horrible parent ho only thought about money. I moved out when I got married at 28. Honestly it was great. I was able to save a lot of money and gave my wife and I a huge head start in life together.
 

Dalek

Member
Oct 25, 2017
38,983
I wish rebound kids could see things from their parents point of view.
When you stay you rob your parents of their golden years together without you.


Get out of the way and let them live their lives. They sacrificed so much to raise you do not try and string out their sacrifice, because an additional adult not pulling their weight(no matter how much they love you) at home is a sacrifice.


If you love your parents, let them live again.

These are very wise words.
 

lmcfigs

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,091
Jesus Christ son, he's been a grown man for 12 years. You can't just leach off your family for your whole life.
I get wanting your grown, 30 year old, son to move out or get a job.

But I know my parents would be weird about accepting rent from me and I'd feel weird asking my own kid to pay me rent. I didn't realize it was a normal thing.

Edit: also yes I don't think paying rent was the reason they're kicking him out. I think clearly the parents were concerned that this guy was not doing anything with his life. It was just something that stuck out to me while reading it.
 
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Kusagari

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Oct 25, 2017
18,468
I don't think paying rent really had anything to do with this.

The guy had no job and seemingly no interest in doing anything with his life. At some point it obviously became too much for the parents to continue to support.
 

lenovox1

Member
Oct 26, 2017
8,995
I don't think paying rent really had anything to do with this.

The guy had no job and seemingly no interest in doing anything with his life. At some point it obviously became too much for the parents to continue to support.

And a child that he doesn't seem to want to take responsibility for. He got to go.
 

Zoe

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,274
Turns out the 6 months eviction doesn't apply, his parents are free to use normal eviction standards.
Greenwood listened quietly to Michael Rotondo's argument that he was entitled to six months more time. He gently corrected Rotondo by pointing to an appellate court decision ruling that family members don't get special treatment absent rare circumstances. And he praised Rotondo for his legal research.
Greenwood credited Rotondo's legal research in finding a prior case that appeared to show that family members get six months before an eviction. Rotondo dismissed his work as a simple internet search that took only minutes.

Greenwood provided a copy of the appellate court decision that overrode the case that Rotondo cited. Rotondo maintained that what Greenwood was doing was wrong.

And a child that he doesn't seem to want to take responsibility for. He got to go.

But supposedly he does!
Michael says he lost custody of his son, whose age he wouldn't disclose, back in September. The boy now lives with his mother full time, who Michael says he was never married to, or in a relationship with.

He says he immediately filed an appeal as a 'poor person' so that his court fees could be waived going forward. But he says his parents complicated matters when they said he needed a job and health insurance if he was to continue living with them.

Michael refused, saying that his job at the moment was getting his son back.

When they offered to pay for his health insurance, Michael explained that he couldn't take that money because it would compromise getting the 'poor person' status.

Nevermind that he would never get custody without any kind of income...
 

Dalek

Member
Oct 25, 2017
38,983
I'm trying to think of the name of the inevitable movie about this.

"Make Room For Millennial"
"Rotando Returns"