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Vena

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Oct 25, 2017
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What you are saying is, as with much of what you've said in this thread, not true.

It isn't 'unmarked'. There is a serial on the box, and the serial number can be decoded to reveal the month, year and day of manufacturer. People are monitoring inventory arriving into stores and waiting for the right time period for 5.0. Then units will be purchased, and we will know very shortly after the fact that Mariko is purchasable.

Mariko is only interesting in that people who want to mess with it will finally be able to buy one. For actual end users who want hackable hardware, they can act now. Mariko won't show up on store shelves for some time now.

Spare me.

You're making it sound like the Switch devs are stalking retail 24/7 looking for a roll over on serials, none of which actually guarantees you'll know if Mariko is or isn't in the box given a specific date because you don't know what the production lines are doing with which SoC or when or what overlaps exist (unless they specifically roll over an integer to set up apart rev0 and rev1, which we have no idea if they will or won't, unlike cart reruns). Yes you can ballpark it off of the serial number to know if its reasonable for the time frame, but its not telling you anything definitive. Random people buying Switches and finding a new firmware and potentially the new hardware is how you'll actually know anything when word gets out over a few days, not some grand retail monitoring scheme.

The entire point I was making was: if you want a hackable Switch buy one now, T214/Mariko can/could arrive very soon, and the longer you wait the more you have to start playing roulette or just buy off of ebay.
 

enMTW

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
894
Spare me.

You're making it sound like the Switch devs are stalking retail 24/7 looking for a roll over on serials, none of which actually guarantees you'll know if Mariko is or isn't in the box given a specific date because you don't know what the production lines are doing with which SoC or when or what overlaps exist (unless they specifically roll over an integer to set up apart rev0 and rev1, which we have no idea if they will or won't, unlike cart reruns). Yes you can ballpark it off of the serial number to know if its reasonable for the time frame, but its not telling you anything definitive. Random people buying Switches and finding a new firmware and potentially the new hardware is how you'll actually know anything when word gets out over a few days, not some grand retail monitoring scheme.

The entire point I was making was: if you want a hackable Switch buy one now, T214/Mariko can/could arrive very soon, and the longer you wait the more you have to start playing roulette or just buy off of ebay.

As I have said multiple times, within a day or two of Mariko being available to purchase, we will know. Your description of how serial number decoding works is yet another untrue thing you've said. Not going to keep going round and round with you.
 

Vena

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Oct 25, 2017
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As I have said multiple times, within a day or two of Mariko being available to purchase, we will know. Your description of how serial number decoding works is yet another untrue thing you've said. Not going to keep going round and round with you.

If you want to correct someone, you could, you know, offer insight on their mistake.
 

Valcrist

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Oct 25, 2017
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Looks interesting and all, but I'm just not sure I'm down for using it. I don't use my Switch for its portability though, I always play it docked. Mostly because even when I go to the infusion center, they won't let me play it while getting an infusion because bending my arm cuts the line off. >:c So yeah, I'll stick to doing emulation on my PC and continue using my Switch for the occasional exclusive.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Not sure if this is posted already, but just in case for y'all to keep in mind that this might become a big nightmare for Nintendo and the fans if Switch is hacked this way.



Imagine if Digital Foundry determines the quality between graphic and the gameplay....
 

BaconHat

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Oct 25, 2017
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Pablo Mesa

Banned
Nov 23, 2017
6,878
Not sure if this is posted already, but just in case for y'all to keep in mind that this might become a big nightmare for Nintendo and the fans if Switch is hacked this way.



Imagine if Digital Foundry determines the quality between graphic and the gameplay....

Im sure ther is already a pic about how to do the hardware thing with thinfoil that instead bricks the console
 

Fularu

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Oct 25, 2017
10,609
There's definitively a linux version of PCSX2 and Citra. It's probably more due to the dolphin devs themselves showing that it's possible that people are mostly talking about it.
The question isn't if there's a linux version of Citra or PCSX2, but rather if there are arm versions of those. X86 linux versions would be rather pointless
 

BaconHat

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Oct 25, 2017
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The question isn't if there's a linux version of Citra or PCSX2, but rather if there are arm versions of those. X86 linux versions would be rather pointless
Then, no. As far as i know (and as far as at least the Citra official FAQ if nothing else), there is no ARM versions of those two emulators.
 

ColdSun

Together, we are strangers
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Oct 25, 2017
3,307
My PSP really shined with homebrew. I'm actually looking forward to the Switch's scene taking off, especially since this particular exploit would require hardware revisions.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,825
New York City
Has anyone tried PCSX2 or Citra yet or aren't there any Linux ports for those emulators?
Unfortunately, those won't work right now. Emulators for demanding systems like PS2, GameCube, and 3DS internally use custom JIT compilers / dynamic recompilers for fast emulation, which emulates a game by recompiling (translating) the game itself to x86 code a PC can directly run. And PCs use x86 processors, so they run x86 Linux and x86 code. However, the Switch (like Raspberry Pis and most Android devices) is an ARM device and therefore can only run ARM Linux and code.

Therefore, those emulators won't work on ARM devices at all right now. Dolphin only works because the Dolphin developers long ago decided to support Android devices, so they created a second dynamic recompiler to translate GC/Wii games to ARM code.

PPSSPP might have a shot at running, though, or at least it should be relatively easy to make an ARM Linux port of it, because that emulator has an Android port (and therefore an ARM dynamic recompiler).
 

Dev

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Oct 25, 2017
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Australia
Any word yet on the risk of losing save files? It sounds like it shouldn't be an issue, but generally when I think recovery mode I think of easy formatting.
 

Kenpachii

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Mar 23, 2018
373
Maybe this will accelerate Nintendo to release a Switch Pro or Switch XL.

This the thing, i kinda wait on a revision of the switch for dumping money into it. I hope it will accelerate them to push a switch XL or switch pro forwards. I would love to see a switch pro with a xavier chip in it that can remove all those sub 20 fps dips in zelda.

Personally not much interest in homebrew, however not gona lie running gamecube games on that thing is hella interesting.
 

InteractiveSoftwareUser

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Oct 25, 2017
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Looks interesting and all, but I'm just not sure I'm down for using it. I don't use my Switch for its portability though, I always play it docked. Mostly because even when I go to the infusion center, they won't let me play it while getting an infusion because bending my arm cuts the line off. >:c So yeah, I'll stick to doing emulation on my PC and continue using my Switch for the occasional exclusive.
Could you play with one Joy-con in each hand with the tablet on a nearby surface? Might need the Hori playstand for extra stability/elevation. That way you can keep your arms straight. Infusions are a drag, glad I don't have to do them anymore.
 

Dust

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Oct 25, 2017
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If I wanted Switch that allows this what model do I need to look out for?
 

Ninjadom

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Oct 25, 2017
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If I wanted Switch that allows this what model do I need to look out for?
Every model that is currently available at retail today allows this.
There will be a "silent" revision coming to retail soon. I expect there to be zero difference to any packaging. Just a case of turning the unit on and actually trying the exploit and seeing if it works or not. The new revision will have OS 5.0.0 or higher out of the box.
 

Dust

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Oct 25, 2017
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Every model that is currently available at retail today allows this.
There will be a "silent" revision coming to retail soon. I expect there to be zero difference to any packaging. Just a case of turning the unit on and actually trying the exploit and seeing if it works or not. The new revision will have OS 5.0.0 or higher out of the box.
Huh, so I guess I would have to buy Switch now?
Sucks you won't be able to tell by model number on package.

That dolphin video is kinda tempting me.
 

Ninjadom

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Oct 25, 2017
5,213
London, UK
Huh, so I guess I would have to buy Switch now?
Sucks you won't be able to tell by model number on package.

That dolphin video is kinda tempting me.
Serial numbers are visible on the packaging so you'd need someone in the know to tell you the acceptable number range. But I'm sure Nintendo don't want you to know that there is a difference.
 

Wander

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm gonna be that annoying guy and ask

How long until we get PPSSPP running?

How long until we get PUBG running? (through potential Android dual boot)

I've been checking this thread too many times haha
 

Simba1

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Dec 5, 2017
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There will be a "silent" revision coming to retail soon. I expect there to be zero difference to any packaging. Just a case of turning the unit on and actually trying the exploit and seeing if it works or not. The new revision will have OS 5.0.0 or higher out of the box.

What is source for this claims?
 

Simba1

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Dec 5, 2017
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Can we expect any other differences with this T214 revision except fixed Tegra exploit?
 
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Valcrist

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Could you play with one Joy-con in each hand with the tablet on a nearby surface? Might need the Hori playstand for extra stability/elevation. That way you can keep your arms straight. Infusions are a drag, glad I don't have to do them anymore.
I'm stuck doing them for life unless a cure for MS is found which is unlikely considering how much money pharmaceutical companies make from the drugs. Anyway nah, no surfaces near me really. Just a big chair and a small surface off to the side not really big enough for the switch. It's okay though, music works well enough.
 

NIN90

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Nov 6, 2017
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I'm stuck doing them for life unless a cure for MS is found which is unlikely considering how much money pharmaceutical companies make from the drugs. Anyway nah, no surfaces near me really. Just a big chair and a small surface off to the side not really big enough for the switch. It's okay though, music works well enough.
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You could try something like this. I personally use one of these for my bed and they work great. I could understand if you'd feel weird about bringing one of these along tho lol.
 

Valcrist

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You could try something like this. I personally use one of these for my bed and they work great. I could understand if you'd feel weird about bringing one of these along tho lol.
I would lmao. I already feel weird about bringing my headphones even though it's pretty normal, that's next level.
 

InteractiveSoftwareUser

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm stuck doing them for life unless a cure for MS is found which is unlikely considering how much money pharmaceutical companies make from the drugs. Anyway nah, no surfaces near me really. Just a big chair and a small surface off to the side not really big enough for the switch. It's okay though, music works well enough.
I see. I'm sorry to hear that and hope you are doing ok all things considered. Music is good for sure, but IMO nothing makes dead time pass like video games.

Are you sure the Hori-stand wouldn't work? It's great for situations where there isn't a large or flat enough surface for the built-in kickstand. Or you could have the Switch-tablet lying on your lap ...ok, I'll stop trying so hard to make this happen and derailing the thread.
 

Ninjadom

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Oct 25, 2017
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What is source for this claims?

Hackers went through the OS 5.0.0 update and found reference to a new Nvidia Tegra chip called 'Mariko' which is the Tegra 214. The current Switch has the Tegra 210 and that is the one that can be exploited.

Hackers that discovered the exploit have disclosed it to Nvidia and Nvidia have closed the hole with the new chip. And as the latest Switch updates make reference to the new chip then it is expected to be included in newly manufactured Switch units.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Fuck yea. I'm down to emulate on the switch. First PSP, then Vita, now switch.

Edit: I don't know why but I really don't care about hacking a console as much as I do my portables. Must be something that brings that on.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Pokémon will finally be more interesting. Loved me some hacked shiny Pokémon that o can trade and battle with.

Also infinite mushroom boosts in Mario Kart 8

Monster Hunter XX fan translation patch

Emulators

The possibilities are endless
 

test_account

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Oct 25, 2017
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On the NES, you just need to cut off one of the pins on a chip to remove the copy protection (and to make it region free). Could it be that Nintendo were going the nostalgic route regarding the hack on the Switch? Hehe :P


What is source for this claims?
I dont think theres any source to it, but it will happen. The bug will be fixed and there is no need to change the Switch package because of this. There might be a way to tell from the serial number, but that is still unknown.