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Rush warrior was meme-tier bad lol.

I had some decent results with it a couple days in. It's actually decent at dealing with aggro, because it can remove a threat and leave a body behind pretty consistently. It peters out in the mid to late game though, so if you don't hold the board comfortably by then, you're pretty screwed.
 

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then which even pally list are you running? or not running even/odd at all?
### Say YES to CTA
# Class: Paladin
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
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# 2x (2) Drygulch Jailor
# 1x (2) Equality
# 2x (2) Knife Juggler
# 2x (2) Loot Hoarder
# 2x (2) Vicious Scalehide
# 2x (4) Blessing of Kings
# 2x (4) Call to Arms
# 2x (4) Consecration
# 2x (4) Corpsetaker
# 1x (4) Spellbreaker
# 2x (4) Truesilver Champion
# 2x (6) Crystal Lion
# 1x (6) Genn Greymane
# 2x (6) Spikeridged Steed
# 1x (6) Sunkeeper Tarim
# 1x (8) Primordial Drake
# 1x (8) Silver Sword
# 1x (8) The Lich King
# 1x (8) Tirion Fordring
#
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
 

Wiibomb

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got it... seems like a very interesting list, at least more consistent seeing it had the crystal lions... I'll try it.
 

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### Say YES to CTA
# Class: Paladin
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
#
# 2x (2) Drygulch Jailor
# 1x (2) Equality
# 2x (2) Knife Juggler
# 2x (2) Loot Hoarder
# 2x (2) Vicious Scalehide
# 2x (4) Blessing of Kings
# 2x (4) Call to Arms
# 2x (4) Consecration
# 2x (4) Corpsetaker
# 1x (4) Spellbreaker
# 2x (4) Truesilver Champion
# 2x (6) Crystal Lion
# 1x (6) Genn Greymane
# 2x (6) Spikeridged Steed
# 1x (6) Sunkeeper Tarim
# 1x (8) Primordial Drake
# 1x (8) Silver Sword
# 1x (8) The Lich King
# 1x (8) Tirion Fordring
#
AAECAZ8FCPIF9AX6BrnBAsnHAsLOAuHwAs30Agv7AdwDzwavB7EIiMcC+NICieYCt+cClugC9uwCAA==
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

This is the deck I'm running around with as well.

It's fucking ridiculous. So goddamn strong. Being able to pump out minions every turn is scary.

got it... seems like a very interesting list, at least more consistent seeing it had the crystal lions... I'll try it.

It is a scarily consistent deck. No matter your hand, you'll always have a Blessing/Truesilver/Corpsetaker/Call to Arms turn 4 to really ramp up your tempo. Drygulch helps you ramp your hand up for Knife Juggler/Crystal Lion/Silver Sword/Tarim.

There is so much goddamn synergy in this deck.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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got it... seems like a very interesting list, at least more consistent seeing it had the crystal lions... I'll try it.

Also wrote this mulligan advice for someone asking about it.

I haven't actually played the list since I hit legend a few days ago, so there are some newer decks I haven't played with it against yet.

In general:
Ideally you have 2x 2 drops and CTA for your first 4 turns. But tarim is also a solid keep in some match ups (non-aggro match ups like spiteful decks especially, so priest primarily). The 4 drops in this deck are really quite powerful. But there are plenty of them so you're very likely to have more than enough 4 cost cards than too few, so I usually only keep CTA and sometimes corpsetaker (vs. mage to counter aggressive starts + hunter).

For odd hunters you'll keep vicious scalehide + corpsetaker, CTA, and knife juggler isn't a bad keep either.

For odd paladins it's similar but add consecration to the list. Scalehide and knife juggler are really MVP of the early game, but you can also hold them for recruit spam from jailors as well. Scalehide and knife juggler are just good at any point in this match up I think. Scalehide gets buffed to heal a ton and knife juggler gets recruit spam + crystal lion at one point. If they turn out to be even paladins as well, you can try to put pressure on them and that is the goal but the match up can be value heavy so don't play too hard into consecration.

I don't know what is ideal for warlock, kinda just need to smorc them and try to get there late game if it goes that far. I just try to mull for CTA but maybe BOK is okay to keep since the main thing you need to do is stick a high hp minion to the board out of defile and hellfire range. It's not a bad idea to try to bait out AOE before CTA but if you can't bait it out then CTA away. Crystal lion seems strong in the match up but I am not sure if it's worth keeping, however getting 2 recruits to stick means you can play it on 4 which 5 hp and divine shield is not something they can deal with easily.
 
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### Say YES to CTA
# Class: Paladin
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
#
# 2x (2) Drygulch Jailor
# 1x (2) Equality
# 2x (2) Knife Juggler
# 2x (2) Loot Hoarder
# 2x (2) Vicious Scalehide
# 2x (4) Blessing of Kings
# 2x (4) Call to Arms
# 2x (4) Consecration
# 2x (4) Corpsetaker
# 1x (4) Spellbreaker
# 2x (4) Truesilver Champion
# 2x (6) Crystal Lion
# 1x (6) Genn Greymane
# 2x (6) Spikeridged Steed
# 1x (6) Sunkeeper Tarim
# 1x (8) Primordial Drake
# 1x (8) Silver Sword
# 1x (8) The Lich King
# 1x (8) Tirion Fordring
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

I ran a similar list to this (no Blessing, added something else instead though I can't now remember what). It's definitely very good. I am finding that Druid and Warlock are still better, but it's definitely good and definitely tier 1.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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BOK is a worthwhile include, very useful in a lot of match ups. Very good on scalehide for example, as it'll remove a mid sized threat, heal for 5 and usually leave behind a 5/x something lifesteal minion. Basically turns into a 4/4 charge for 4 if put on any minion that can attack. And with this list you'll often have things left alive on board due to the 1 mana hero power, jailor, and CTA.
 

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I feel good

Playing Even pally, against a Spiteful Dragon Priest

We both deck out. We both go to fatigue. He has a mind control left(Thanks for telling me, Spiteful!) I have corpsetaker, and spikeridged. I have the minion advantage thanks to a doom pact that killed his cobalt dragons. I play corpsetaker, bait the mind control, then spikeridge one of my minions after that.

Maaan. This deck is good.
 

squidyj

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This Taunt Druid deck is putting in work. It's weird though I thought Witching Hour was a 2/5 card and Hadronox was too hard to kill off.
 

gutshot

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Yeah, I've been playing mobious' Even Pally list a bit today and I like it. It crushes aggro and can go toe-to-toe versus most control lists as well. I took a Cubelock to fatigue and almost won except he was able to Faceless my Tirion and the extra 15 damage from Ashbringer was enough to kill me. :/
 

Wiibomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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Also wrote this mulligan advice for someone asking about it.

I haven't actually played the list since I hit legend a few days ago, so there are some newer decks I haven't played with it against yet.
excellent suggestions, thank you.

I'm kinda tempted to replace a corpsetaker with crystal knight, but I'm not sure yet, it might be good, it might fluke...
 

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There really are a lot of good decks right now. But I would love to see Cube catch a big nerf, because that is the number 1 threat to fun right now.
 

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I hit legend yesterday with Spiteful Druid, was ridiculously easy to do the R5->Legend climb. (I did 17->5 with Even Handlock)
 
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Turn 3 mountain giant just feels so dirty and so good. Any good Even Warlock lists? I like mine but it definitely doesn't feel optimal.

And are there any fun priests decks? I've tried odd and even to no avail. Quest is still fun though.
 

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### Say YES to CTA
# Class: Paladin
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
#
# 2x (2) Drygulch Jailor
# 1x (2) Equality
# 2x (2) Knife Juggler
# 2x (2) Loot Hoarder
# 2x (2) Vicious Scalehide
# 2x (4) Blessing of Kings
# 2x (4) Call to Arms
# 2x (4) Consecration
# 2x (4) Corpsetaker
# 1x (4) Spellbreaker
# 2x (4) Truesilver Champion
# 2x (6) Crystal Lion
# 1x (6) Genn Greymane
# 2x (6) Spikeridged Steed
# 1x (6) Sunkeeper Tarim
# 1x (8) Primordial Drake
# 1x (8) Silver Sword
# 1x (8) The Lich King
# 1x (8) Tirion Fordring
#
AAECAZ8FCPIF9AX6BrnBAsnHAsLOAuHwAs30Agv7AdwDzwavB7EIiMcC+NICieYCt+cClugC9uwCAA==
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone


Dammit. I only have 13 out of the 30 cards needed for that deck...
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Is cutlass actually good? I've thought cutlass might actually be good at reveal. But now seeing it in action I am not disappointed!

After playing anduin, it got +1 durability because I played a priest card as rogue. Then it switches your class to priest, so the next rogue card I played that turn (second deadly poison) also increased durability by 1. And then the following turn (this turn) I had cheap shot to kill 2 minions and got 3 durability off of that. Endless cutlass.
 

Ricelord

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Oct 25, 2017
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good lord no wonder i dont climb ladder that much anymore.First two games was odd pally and baku hunter but sadly for them i was playing quest warrior.
 

Cat Party

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Not to mention alot of odd/even decks do really well against cubelocks.

Cube lock worked last xpac because the games tended to go slower, but right now its a heavy aggro meta with strong fortification.
There's a cube Druid catching on right now that plays Hadronox. Thanks to Witching Hour, you can keep resurrecting Hadronox and then you cube it.
 

SonicXtreme

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Oct 27, 2017
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I just disenchanted my golden Chameleos. That card seems just awful and I couldn't justify owning it. Traded it for another legendary.
ummm i strongly disalgree i think its one of the strongest cards of this expansion. even if you don't play it if its in your opening hand you very often know IMMEDIATELY what deck you're up against. it doesn't help for synergy, no,l but i think it's going to be worth running in every single priest deck with that kind of useful info (i play lots of wild tho and every class has multiple archetypes)

cards like arcane intellect, eviscerate, defile, every deck has something worth stealing at some point even if the intel isn't doing it for you. recent examples are a turn 1 simulacrum letting me know i was facing exodia mage, and coldlight oracle letting me know i was facing mill and not face odd rogue, so much useful info from that one card, i think its amazing
 
Oct 28, 2017
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ummm i strongly disalgree i think its one of the strongest cards of this expansion. even if you don't play it if its in your opening hand you very often know IMMEDIATELY what deck you're up against. it doesn't help for synergy, no,l but i think it's going to be worth running in every single priest deck with that kind of useful info (i play lots of wild tho and every class has multiple archetypes)

I think you're massively overestimating how important that information. It's useful sure, but how many classes have decks that are different enough that you will require a different strategy after picking your mulligan? Very few. So that means it only informs you of some of the cards they have, but not what they don't. So again you have to play the same either way because you'll only know what's there, not what's not (and you'll have to play as if they have everything anyway).

On the flip side, it's often bad or unplayable and it's a dead draw the turn you draw it. That's not worth the trade off.
 

Ricelord

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Oct 25, 2017
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ok made an odd pally deck. its pretty much disgusting.

### Baku pally
# Class: Paladin
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
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# 2x (1) Acherus Veteran
# 2x (1) Argent Squire
# 2x (1) Blessing of Might
# 2x (1) Fire Fly
# 2x (1) Lost in the Jungle
# 2x (1) Righteous Protector
# 2x (3) Divine Favor
# 2x (3) Ironbeak Owl
# 1x (3) Marsh Drake
# 2x (3) Sword of Justice
# 2x (3) Unidentified Maul
# 2x (3) Witch's Cauldron
# 2x (5) Fungalmancer
# 2x (5) Level Up!
# 2x (7) Stormwind Champion
# 1x (9) Baku the Mooneater
#
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bloodreaver guildan would be so much fairer for the meta if it wasn't limited to YOUR demons. the meta would open up sooo much counterplay instead of these two stupid decks over and over
 

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Voodoo Dolls with a Baku deck?

And out of all the decks I have made, the only ones I can win with today are Budget Hunters...
 

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Cubelock, lose
Rogue, win
Cubelock, lose

Never hitting rank 5. What's the best cube counters now that secret mage and big priest died?
 

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can someone calculate the following-
Warrior with Sulfuras hero power. I have 2 minions on board+myself, he hero powers and hits me in face
Next turn. I now have 4 minions on my board+myself, he hero powers twice, and both times hits me in the face.

What are the chances of that?
 

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can someone calculate the following-
Warrior with Sulfuras hero power. I have 2 minions on board+myself, he hero powers and hits me in face
Next turn. I now have 4 minions on my board+myself, he hero powers twice, and both times hits me in the face.

What are the chances of that?

Chances of the first are 33% (1/3).

Chances of each the second time are 20% (1/5).

Chances of everything are 1.33% (33%*20%*20%)
 
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