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Obsidian talks about their new larger-budget RPG, is a new IP, humorous, published by Take-Two
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This is possibly the best post that I've ever seen on an internet forum. That went deep.
I know it won't happen but I hope alpha protocol 2 is magically announced
Turn-based, isometric RPGs are prototypical examples of the genre. It's fine if they aren't your cup of tea, but it doesn't change what they are. That's like someone saying they don't like DOOM, therefore it isn't a FPS.
I also hope its not an isometric rpg. I enjoy them, and have played them back since neverwinter and baldurs gate, but if you dont do anything interesting with the combat like divinity combat is always a slog. I doubt it with it being bigger budget, but im definitely excited.
I'm really looking forward to seeing what this project will be. It's sort of like seeing another project by Troika, andBoyarsky's dream game at that.
The disdain for an Isometric camera and Turn-based combat is bewildering. An Isometric camera, or similar pulled-out camera is arguably better for RPGs with a party. Turn-based combat is also one of the best combat systems for RPGS, especially when meaningful positioning is involved. The majority of these niche RPGs are also far better than AAA examples where design for mass appeal is more important than good game design.
That said, given the details we know and speculation, I think it's likely to be a first-person RPG with real-time combat, with a focus on exploration and reactivity.
The disdain for an Isometric camera and Turn-based combat is bewildering. An Isometric camera, or similar pulled-out camera is arguably better for RPGs with a party. Turn-based combat is also one of the best combat systems for RPGS, especially when meaningful positioning is involved. The majority of these niche RPGs are also far better than AAA examples where design for mass appeal is more important than good game design.
That said, given the details we know and speculation, I think it's likely to be a first-person RPG with real-time combat, with a focus on exploration and reactivity.
tbf, boring, nonvaried combat can quickly make any combat-focused game a slog, regardless of perspective.
part of why Fallout used to allow a person to shoot mobs in the dick or eye :D
I hope it's an isometric RPG. Don't get enough of those on the consoles. Love Pillars of eternity and D:OS on PS4.
I never play as a psychopath, but I love when devs put the option in their games. Alpha Protocol was fucking amazing.
true but their are so very few isometrics with what I would call good and not repetitive.
lmao, damn I should have played this as the bad guy, I rarely ever do that but the confrontational dialogue is so good. those convos with Madison....
if H Jon Benjamin voiced him this would basically be Archer
edit: sorry about the bump, wasn't paying attention to the date of this thread
It's Obsidian, so I'm in. I do hope that it will be something that is not a CRPG tho. Not dissing Pillars of Eternity or Tyranny, just want something different from them. Something like Alpha Protocol 2 would be nice.
I love Alpha Protocol, I enjoyed that game thoroughly and it's sad that we won't ever get to see a sequel come out.
Gimme a decent customisation and their usual branching paths and I'll be happy.
I hope it's a 3D RPG instead of their recent isometric.
I hope it's a 3D RPG instead of their recent isometric.
I'm really surprised that nobody has tried to do that type of Spy RPG since then.
I don't support companies like Obsidian that treat employees like crap, hide behind "contractors" titles and "at-will" employment to justify shady business practices, lie to employees then blindside them with stuff they assured wouldn't happen, "let go" of pregnant employees who just came back, "let go" of contractors who higher ups harass who went to HR, "let go" of employees who filed Workers Comp claims, and more.
Wait, what?!
This dialogue is everything I want out of a 2018 RPG, and here it is - almost a decade ago.
I never did play Alpha Protocol because the gameplay itself was supposed to be terrible. Is the game overall as rough as people say?
lol there's one of these types for every game company I guess.
Yeah the shooting is based off dice rolls. Everyone recommends you go with a stealth + pistol build, you'll get through most areas without a problem. The strength of the game is 100% the branching dialogue and choices. You can even find dossiers of factions/characters out in the field that give extra dialogue options in certain spots. It's a really good RPG despite the janky gameplay.
Yes, that Obsidian. Also metrics like that aren't the best to go by, another company in the area got caught having HR right their glassdoor reviews. My receipts are from working in the industry about 10 minutes from them, knowing people that worked and still work there, and knowing a couple of the people who were affected.
One of what? Someone who wants to make others aware of the terrible things a company has done? I said I don't support companies like that, didn't say everyone had to agree.
Take two has me worried after their desire for every game to have lootboxes. Hope I'm wrong
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Please be a 1st/3rd person shooter hybrid rpg like Fallout.
Id like to support Obsidian but jesus I can't play iso or top down games like that. They definitely wouldn't sell well if they were anyways.
Id like to support Obsidian but jesus I can't play iso or top down games like that. They definitely wouldn't sell well if they were anyways.
Someone who's outraged over something. You can find someone like that with every gaming company, trying to spread the word and get others outraged.
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So one who mentions negative things a company has done is "outrage" and trying to get others "outraged" as well? Even though I didn't ask anyone to join me or tell anyone they should be "outraged", that's what you're saying?
Some great logic you got there, truly astounding.....lol
Might be interesting - I've liked Obsidian's recent outings. Look forward to hearing what's in the works.
Whatever it is, I hope it's 3D and it has extensive modding support. Bethesda's open world games need some competition.
If you want anyone to take you seriously you'll need to actually, like, describe specific events. As it is you're just another nerd talking shit on the internet. You're not making anyone "aware" of anything posting like this, and your initial post seemed to presuppose that people would already know about... whatever it is you're talking about.
I find complaints about the gameplay to be exaggerated. The main thing is that aiming and ability to hit from further away is based on stats, so don't expect to hit anything unless you have stats put into it even if manually, it looks like you should hit them.
Alpha Protocol was a pretty solid example of skill and stat based systems interfering with each other. The dice roll based aiming was something that Mass Effect also struggled with but ME2 had made its decision to go skill based for aiming (to great critical acclaim) about six months before Alpha Protocol came out. If the game is asking me to aim, it shouldn't then leave the decision up to a stat. If you want stat based aiming, then ask me to select targets rather than aim at them.
It also felt super duper gamey. The game offered no explanation for how I could disappear in plain sight in front of people because my stealth skill was high, yet this was a regular occurrence in game. That kind of immersion breaking thing probably wouldn't have felt as out of place if it was a fantasy or (future/space) scifi game.
The PC controls were also wonky with lock picking / hacking stuff having just fucked controls on KB&M.
It also felt super duper gamey. The game offered no explanation for how I could disappear in plain sight in front of people because my stealth skill was high, yet this was a regular occurrence in game. That kind of immersion breaking thing probably wouldn't have felt as out of place if it was a fantasy or (future/space) scifi game.
The PC controls were also wonky with lock picking / hacking stuff having just fucked controls on KB&M.
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I literally described almost everything....learn to comprehend better. The only thing you could say I didn't was how they lied to employees by assuring them layoffs were not going to happen then the layoffs to the AW team happened days later. Everything else is literally spelled out for you and described if you're able to comprehend higher than a 4th grade level. So yeah, not just a nerd talking shit or any other dumb crap you want to say. This is making people aware as it's something people maybe don't know, genius. I never tried to get people to agree with me or incite outrage, just stating facts. GTFO here with your subpar post saying I didn't explain anything when I literally said precisely what they've done, what a joke.
You made a list of general types of events without describing any actual, specific event in any meaningful or interpretable detail. I apologize that my initial post came off as more hostile than I intended, though the substance is accurate. I do not plan on responding to your posts on this topic any more as it seems unlikely that doing so would accomplish anything.
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Yeah, no. I literally said exactly what happened directly to the point and succinctly. Don't get mad at others because you're unable to comprehend well and need pictures and diagrams or something.
Yeah, you are done, you shouldn't have even started and you should probably stop responding to everyones topics on the site. Welcome to ignore, less of you the better.
The point we're trying to get through to you is where is your proof? You can't just say things like that and expect people to believe you, you're a nobody until proven otherwise. I've never seen any of the stuff you said reported anywhere or even hinted at. You need proof to throw these kinds of accusations around.
User was banned for 1 week following his posts in this thread for: Continuing to be insulting and demeaning to other members in discussions, despite prior warnings and bans.
I don't care if people here believe me, I and people in the area and the industry know the facts, like for example I know one of the pregnant women that was released right after she came back and I know and used to work with one of the Workers Comp issue employees that just got a settlement from Obsidian, obviously I nor anyone else can "show receipts" for that for obvious reasons so you can believe me or not, I really don't care and I didn't use this to get anyone on my side or anything like that. I simply stated some things that happened and said I won't support a company like that. Also I find it laughable that you actually expect info for lawsuits and results. The stuff with AW is readily available though as is internet talk about how Obsidian is run higher up.
Believe what you want, I never once said anything to garner favor or rally people with me with pitchforks. If I said "YOU ALL shouldn't support a company that's done....." then you'd have a point, buuuuut I didn't, and you don't, thanks for playing.
Why on Earth would people want a 3D RPG (AGAIN!) from them? Aren't they best known for the better kind of games, like the OG Fallout?
Is this once again because of the console-centric forum? Why you folks want every game to be the same? Fighting is the least important thing in a game like this, and TB or RTwP work the best. You don't need to be actively aggressive all the time, you can chill and pause the game and think your next move. I am so fed up with all the ARPGs, I really want more games like BG, OG Fallout and the modern counterparts.
Is this once again because of the console-centric forum? Why you folks want every game to be the same? Fighting is the least important thing in a game like this, and TB or RTwP work the best. You don't need to be actively aggressive all the time, you can chill and pause the game and think your next move. I am so fed up with all the ARPGs, I really want more games like BG, OG Fallout and the modern counterparts.
I hope it's that and not some "comedy" or overly "comic/cartoon"-style stuff.
Depends on your build. The gunplay was pretty bad so I avoided it entirely. My stealth + kung-fu build was fun. I'd sneak up on people and then beat the crap out of them. Flying knees to the face never get old.
there is a massive gap between arpg and baldurs gate style combat. just because i dont like or want standard baldurs gate style combat doesnt mean i want an arpg. something more strategic would be nice. it was simple, but i enjoyed the lite xcom style of shadowrun. ive never liked baldurs gate style combat its always been tedious for me. ive enjoyed the games despite that. and why complain about people wanting more of the same when you are wanting the same 20 year old combat again. its still more of the same its just your preference of it.
New Vegas is still their best game. And some people (like me) prefer the immersion and atmosphere that first or third person perspective provides. I grew up on Fallout 1 and 2, but nowadays would much prefer New Vegas-style 3D game from them rather than another isometric or top down one. It has nothing to do with being PC or console gamer.
Because by the time we get whatever this is, it will have been 9 or even 10 years since we've had a 3D RPG from them and the last time they worked on one, it was regarded as a flawed masterpiece despite only having 18 months of development. We don't have Fallout/The Elder Scrolls competition and it really sucks because BGS seems to streamline their games with every release to the point where I doubt I'll even consider The Elder Scrolls VI an RPG when it comes out. Obsidian should step in and show them how it's done.
There's plenty of cRPGs out there. If we're only referring to post apocalyptic scenarios, there's UnderRail (which is basically the Fallout sequel we never got), Wasteland 3, ATOM RPG and even something like Kenshi.
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